The New Master List of BASS in Movies with Frequency Charts - Page 171

lol umm no.

Flageborg,

I am not sure why, but there seems to a slight difference in our graphs. I am using bosso's .ini file and colour scheme. Direct sub out from Oppo, all speakers set to small and 120Hz. Soundcard 48000 input as per bosso's file. I checked the levels using the discrete DVD disc with only LFE channel using sweeps and it was about right. The version is also different as I am in Asia. The long term charts does show that the output below 30Hz is limited. The 1st chart is the same Chapter 14 from when Loki throws Stark out of the window. Due to our window settings being different the differences are there but general chart stays the same.



The next one is the part where Banner changes into the Hulk (I'm always angry)



Last chart - Hulk Smash!



The chart in the bottom shows the long term average from the start of Chap 14 (Loki throwing Stark out of window) till the battle ending and they all part ways.(1:40 till 2:10) The output below 30Hz seems to be low as well.



There is a lot of bass content but as I mentioned content below 30Hz seems much less. Still there seems to be output till about 10Hz. As this is my 1st time trying to get waterfalls correct (in Win 7), let me know if there are any mistakes.

hey guys what is this tih movie? i cant figure out the acronym.

League of Extraordinary Gentlemen on Blu-Ray - good for 4 stars, maybe four and a half. Had a few good scenes, but only a couple of great ones.

The movie was better than I remembered, too. Slightly.

the incredible hulk

The Incredible Hulk

Is this the Malaysia Speedy version of Avengers BD?

As promised, a speclab for Avengers CEE, DTS-MA HD LFE. The average sweep didnt come out right, but, the max level is correct unless I did something wrong.

Slow rolloff at 30hz but no brickwall filter. Compared to HTTYD this soundtrack lacks the OMPF keeping it from a 5 star movie in my opinion but it was still very good.

Lol @ Avengers bass. Saw it coming from a mile away. No impressive bass remembered at the theater at all.


F**kin' aye. Guys in here need to slow down on their favorite blockbuster coming out with the comments of "OMG IT'S GOT AWESOME BASS, YO!!!1!!" Just because you REALLY like the movie and it's an "action" movie doesn't mean it's going to have 5-star bass.

Bass. Charts. Waterfalls. Thread.

New initiative guys....

Proof of Bass.

Some of you guys are a real piece of work. You read a chart and it actually prevents you from being able to enjoy a terrific movie with great sound and impressive bass which might happen to not have a lot of content below 20hz. Absolutely ridiculous. Maybe y'all should just try to watch and enjoy the movie before looking at the charts.

Absolutely. I dont like filtering either, but I never judge a track until I experience it in my HT. Word of mouth from a few forum friends tells me this one is awesome overall as far as audio. Looking forward to it.

What do you expect when these are charts from a stolen movie?

I don't think so, that is such a generalization.

Believe it or not, most of us actually watch the films and will go back to see if what we thought we experienced was actually there (the experienced among us can tell you what a peak/avg graph will look like prior to even running it). If you think I just run speclab and don't watch films, you are mistaken. This thread is about movies with bass WITH frequency charts. Well done films do not necessarily need sub-20Hz content, but it sure makes them more fun for the folks that can replicate it.

BTW, I still do not have a copy of Avengers, and I am not incredibly confident in the FFT bin settings I am seeing for these graphs, so I will see the film, make a judgment, and if the film warrants it, I'll run a speclab graph for it.

One of my latest favs is Project X, because I was expecting no bass below 40Hz, and got lots more than that, it literally surprised me.

Like Scott, I get irritated at the folks that rant and rave about a films super deep bass, only to find out it is a 30Hz film, and rolls off below. My guess is that these are the same folks that rarely if ever provide frequency charts, and probably refer to their subs as 'puppies' or 'bad boys'.

Avengers had a lot to live up to. Iron Man 1&2, while 30Hz monsters, still had decent extension for some explosions, and good overall sound. Thor was a pretty good sound flick, but filtered at 20Hz, and it left A LOT on the table. The Incredible Hulk had incredible low end, and the charts show it. It is literally a monster. Captain America had a few scenes with sub-15Hz stuff.

I am hoping that Avengers will be close to Thor given the graphs above (I hope they are wrong), and I enjoyed the film in IMAX. But this is a bass thread, not an overall sound review thread, please keep that in mind. We are rating films based on their quantity and extension, and when films have both, they get 5 stars. If it happens to be a good movie too, bonus.


JSS

Max, I wasn't generalizing. I said "Some of you guys..." Basically, I was referring to those who said that they wouldn't rent or buy the movie based on the graphs presented here. It's their loss if they choose to prejudge the quality of this soundtrack without actually hearing it.

The movie itself was awesome, even in the theater so it is a buy for me. Having bass is a bonus but still sucks that it does not have that much low bass. How about this, leave the damn movies unfiltered, requires less work anyways. This way the guys that can't get the deep stuff will sound the same and the guys with it will be rewarded(JMHO).

The same thing happened with Super 8 which was a great bass movie until somebody posted a chart and all of a sudden it was no good. Just goes to show you don't need ULF or even be able to reproduce it (even if you just think you can).

Thor as well IMO. 5 star in my book even in light of the filtering.

Not sure if that was directed at me and/or my previous post but.... I liked the movie. I saw it twice in theaters and will buy it on BD. However, I knew when I saw it that it was bass-shy imho and would not be anything special. So far, this has been documented as proven. I'd like to be wrong, I really would. I still don't have the capability to do charts for BD but I used to do them for dvd.

That being said, it's a free country and if anyone feels that this movie doesn't belong in their collection for what ever reason, then that is that and you should respect that.

Of course folks are completely free to choose to not watch this or any particular movie for any reason whatsoever. What I am finding ridiculous is the overreaction to the early bass charts being posted up here and the over-importance being placed on whether a film has an abundance of <20hz content or not. I would not consider this movie to be bass-shy at all. The bass might not be incredibly deep, but it is there in satisfying quantities throughout the entire movie. When something big happens onscreen, boom, there is big bass accompanying the action.

There are movies that should have large quantities of bass, but don't such as "Battleship," "2012," and perhaps "Avatar." This movie is not like those at all.

I thought Avatar was just fine in the bass, just not too deep. I remember the first part of the film hit me like a hammer.

Maybe Avengers will be like Underworld 4?

I would put it about on par with Underworld 4, though I'd consider Avengers to be a better movie overall. To me, the bass feels similar to the Iron Man movies.

NICE! We watched Underworld 4 3 times the week it came out due largely to the awesome audio/LFE. That Super Lycan............ Similar bass + better movie=Avengers? Hell yeah!

Right on...

I use Underworld Awakening to sell subs that i do not use anymore or for demoing my theater...Avengers is ok but Underworld seems to play louder in the bass channels than the rest of the audio channels and is way more impressive in my room. As much as i like 20hz i much rather have bass that abundant in 30 to 50zh energy...much more impressive..not only can you feel it but it is of course louder. I asked this in an earlier post but no one responded. When Selene is shooting her double magnums and your body and room is pulsating with every bullet being fired, what frequency is doing that "violent "punching"?

What I find ridiculous is the overreaction to there being bass in general in Avengers. See what I did there. Seriously. Everyone is like, "OMG THIS IS SO AWESOME!! IT HAS BASS!" Yeah... no s**t. This is the bass chart/waterfall thread. There should be documented proof. If there isn't then this thread is just a collection of dudes with subwoofers of various capability pretty much just going, "Yup. Yyyyyuuuupp." and nodding.

All we need in this thread is Proof of Bass
Like I said, a lot of movies contain bass. That doesn't mean all are special and deserve top ratings. That's the purpose of this thread and previous versions of it. To document the quality, quantity and extension of bass in movies. It's as simple as that.

Yeah, those were quite disappointing wrt bass in general. I have the same opinion of Revenge of the Sith and other movies that should have bass and then there isn't. No, this movie is more like Underworld 4. A 30hz fest which is super is to do and likely to energize ANY room with boomy boom boom sounds.

For a simple comparison.... The Haunting from 1999 would rip this apart and it drops like a rock ~15hz but the content is unreal.

The reason why I consider the bass in Avengers to be satisfying is because it is an action movie that uses bass at the proper time and with the proper dosage to accompany what happening on the screen. it doesn't simple "have" bass like movies that use arbitary rumbling for no other reason than to set a mood.

Proof of Bass from the movie Innocence of Muslims. You have to hear it to believe it!

Yeah that wasn't funny. Poor form...

What about we wait til next week when the blu-ray(Avengers) comes out and you're at home on your OWN system and listen to it. Then you determine the quality, quantity and extension of bass in the movie. Filtered or not you're going to buy the movie anyway.