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post #6121 of 16110
I have what I consider a fairly modest system, dual 12's and a 15" (velodyne) in a 2000 cf room
Spider-man ROCKED my room, anyone who was not impressed with the ULF/LFE was either under-equipped or didn't run their System hot enough.

It's there, no doubt, whether you can find or not is the only issue up for debate.


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post #6122 of 16110
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post

Late to the party but. Percy Jackson. Holy crap!! Pretty fun movie too
Yeah, PJ is an LFE fest at times. Seems to run the full spectrum of goodness. The scene when they're riding the fairy (air boat) to see Hades has some really low moments if I recall correctly. Some of that window rattling stuff Spiderman has.
post #6123 of 16110
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Originally Posted by PioManiac View Post

I have what I consider a fairly modest system, dual 12's and a 15" (velodyne) in a 2000 cf room
Spider-man ROCKED my room, anyone who was not impressed with the ULF/LFE was either under-equipped or didn't run their System hot enough.
It's there, no doubt, whether you can find or not is the only issue up for debate.
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No doubt its there and it had me, my room and house rockin as well, but its not the fullest sounding LFE due to being ULF dominated. I still thought it was a great LFE track and it had my subs and BKs going nuts (this film challenged my BKs more than any other that I can think of actually), but I prefer a more even full bandwidth type bass track if given the choice. TIH, Star Trek, Prometheus, etc......are better all around LFE tracks from my perspective since they feel more full range instead of just dominant in one part of the spectrum like SM seemed to be. This is a matter of opinion though and some may prefer this type of LFE which is fine as well obviously.
Edited by Toe - 11/17/12 at 8:33pm
post #6124 of 16110
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Originally Posted by Steveo1234 View Post

The dark knight rises. DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1
f9172012441033481.jpg
Absolute >20hz monster. Its looking awesome! Going to do a few individual scenes of this one. Finally something worth the attention! Slight roll off below 20hz though so not an ULF monster. Guessing 4.5-5 star rating for this one.
Please note that this graph might be missing a level offset. Please compare to WOTW above for reference.

Like I stated a couple days ago.. The stadium explosion scene was a real shaker. The first scene with the plane was pretty good. Still haven't had time to go try other scenes though.
post #6125 of 16110
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Originally Posted by pretsam View Post

Like I stated a couple days ago.. The stadium explosion scene was a real shaker. The first scene with the plane was pretty good. Still haven't had time to go try other scenes though.
I watched it yesterday and its definitely a 4,5-5!!My mkv had dts 1,5mbps but the bass was awesome!What i enjoyed most were the scenes with the flying batmobile as the bass pressurized the room.
post #6126 of 16110
Hulk vs. Abomination fight scene. Right after the cars that the Hulk is using as glove fly apart
and he punches the downed Abomination with his bare fist...

There is a BASS "BURP" that is off the damn charts!

I was demo'ing my subs for some friends, and they made me stop and play this again, like 5 times, it was so crazy.

I was playing this at reference levels. I have two huge Infinite Baffle subwoofers in the floor that dig down to 5hz
easily. It is a small 1600cf sealed room with insane room gain, and these subs cannot be bottomed out. I've
tried all the traditional sub-killing tracks, and these things just laugh. THX Nature demo, WotW, whatever.

All I can say is watching FOUR 18" long-travel sub drivers do some kind bizzare shake like a naughty belly dancer
was a bassheads dream. My system can displace around 28 liters of air, and I think that "burp" used up like 20 liters of that.

AWESOME.
post #6127 of 16110
S_rangeBrew:

Off the top of my head, you'll also see very similar effects in these places:

TRON:Legacy: 2 seconds after the laser zaps him from the arcade into the grid. (7hz, iirc)

How To Train Your Dragon: when the big dragon crashes to the ground in the final fight. (3hz)

Black Hawk Down: just a few seconds after the pilot says "F'ing Irene!!!" there are chopper blade effects, albeit only for a few seconds. (7hz pulses, iirc)

Master & Commander (DVD DTS track, NOT BLURAY!): the first fight, eight min. into the movie, cannon fire sequences have effects like this, although not the first volley. Many of the 2nd volley where you see the cannons being shot and recoiling contain such effects, the same with the ship-to-ship volleys. The DVD DTS-ES track has these, but the bluray is filtered and doesn't have nearly the weight of real cannon fire like the DVD track. (Various frequencies, dipping down to 5hz and possibly lower)

Kung Fu Panda: the final battle's skadoosh scene, while not especially low, will move those drivers A LOT! (Centered around 18 or 20hz, but a hot enough effect that it will induce lots of throw.)

War of the Worlds: The typical demo scene isn't as impressive as some of the others for watching your drivers go crazy. The lightning before the "pods emerge" scene is spectacular, with I think 3hz or 7hz or something. The plane crash after is also good.

Many, many more that I'm forgetting. You can find them pretty much all spelled out in this thread:

The late kryptonitewhite's "Top 5Hz-15Hz BluRey Movies" thread from the DIY forum here.
post #6128 of 16110
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Originally Posted by pretsam View Post

Like I stated a couple days ago.. The stadium explosion scene was a real shaker. The first scene with the plane was pretty good. Still haven't had time to go try other scenes though.

Agreed, watched it tonight and the whole soundtrack was fkn sick!!!!.....Bass and surrounds is one of the best this year I reckon.
post #6129 of 16110
Went back and tried a few scenes over from spiderman, still unimpressed. Sticking with my 3/5. Gonna try Total Recall...
post #6130 of 16110
What do people here think of the bass in Quantum of Solace? I was thinking of getting it, the Blu ray reviews of it state some insane bass effects...
post #6131 of 16110
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Originally Posted by buddhamus View Post

Agreed, watched it tonight and the whole soundtrack was fkn sick!!!!.....Bass and surrounds is one of the best this year I reckon.


How did you watch it? I thought its releasing in December eek.gif
post #6132 of 16110
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Originally Posted by englechgc View Post

Watched haywire last night...yikes. Hopefully I'm not alone here but i thought that movie was terrible. The sound mix wasn't great and it had very little lfe. Big disappointment.1.gif
Sound was not good and the movie was even worse...
post #6133 of 16110
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Originally Posted by Ashi777 View Post

What do people here think of the bass in Quantum of Solace? I was thinking of getting it, the Blu ray reviews of it state some insane bass effects...
The opening car chase has very powerful dynamics. Overall I thought it was a very good sound mix with really good bass.
post #6134 of 16110
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Originally Posted by capricorn kid View Post

The opening car chase has very powerful dynamics. Overall I thought it was a very good sound mix with really good bass.

Yeah, I was surprised to not see it on the list
post #6135 of 16110
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Originally Posted by buddhamus View Post

Agreed, watched it tonight and the whole soundtrack was fkn sick!!!!.....Bass and surrounds is one of the best this year I reckon.

Yea I'd like to see some good charts on TDKR.
post #6136 of 16110
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Originally Posted by S_rangeBrew View Post

Hulk vs. Abomination fight scene. Right after the cars that the Hulk is using as glove fly apart
and he punches the downed Abomination with his bare fist...
There is a BASS "BURP" that is off the damn charts!
AWESOME.

So you missed this one...?
(old chart from DVD-version)

Incredible_Hulk_II.JPG
post #6137 of 16110
Agree with earlier comment about Total Recall, it had its moments but its not a bass monster. 3/5
post #6138 of 16110
Regarding Amazing Spiderman, the issue is that while it has tons of LFE, it's not as heavily mixed with the 25-40Hz content that associate with loud, pounding bass. If your system is really strong there and not on the low end, I can see it being very underwhelming. Curious to hear from people with the monster systems that can get close to reference in the ULF octaves.
post #6139 of 16110
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Originally Posted by wth718 View Post

Regarding Amazing Spiderman, the issue is that while it has tons of LFE, it's not as heavily mixed with the 25-40Hz content that associate with loud, pounding bass. If your system is really strong there and not on the low end, I can see it being very underwhelming. Curious to hear from people with the monster systems that can get close to reference in the ULF octaves.

I thought the Amazing spiderman had good bass at reference. I will watch it at 10dB's over reference(LFE) next time to see what happens. It will never be a 5 star.
post #6140 of 16110
^^^ Agreed. ULF is not the end all, be all. It needs more volume and more non-ULF effects, imo. Which is why I can say that Dark Knight Rises is a def 5 star, even though I don't think it has too much ULF. Great movie, too.
post #6141 of 16110
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Originally Posted by nube View Post

S_rangeBrew:
Off the top of my head, you'll also see very similar effects in these places:
Many, many more that I'm forgetting. You can find them pretty much all spelled out in this thread:
The late kryptonitewhite's "Top 5Hz-15Hz BluRey Movies" thread from the DIY forum here.

Thank you kind sir. I'm pouring one out for KW right now, RIP.
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Originally Posted by capricorn kid View Post

Sound was not good and the movie was even worse...

If you are a fan of realistic fight scenes and Gina Carano (like me)... it was grade-A moviemaking. wink.gif
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Originally Posted by Flageborg View Post

So you missed this one...?
(old chart from DVD-version)
Incredible_Hulk_II.JPG

Totally missed, that, and I searched this thread... thanks! Totally confirms what we felt. The couches in my room jumped as a wave rolled across the floor. Absolutely insane.
Anyone who says reference-level output under 10hz is useless..... just doesn't get it. biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by wth718 View Post

^^^ Agreed. ULF is not the end all, be all. It needs more volume and more non-ULF effects, imo. Which is why I can say that Dark Knight Rises is a def 5 star, even though I don't think it has too much ULF. Great movie, too.

It's funny. When you are looking for ULF content (like I do with my Infinite Baffle monster) it becomes the be all and end all. Many of the 25hz and above movies others regard as awesome for bass... I find lacking. I've become a ULF snob. If it doesn't displace over 20 liters of air, it's crap. (just kidding.... kinda)
post #6142 of 16110
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Originally Posted by S_rangeBrew View Post

Thank you kind sir. I'm pouring one out for KW right now, RIP.
If you are a fan of realistic fight scenes and Gina Carano (like me)... it was grade-A moviemaking. wink.gif
Totally missed, that, and I searched this thread... thanks! Totally confirms what we felt. The couches in my room jumped as a wave rolled across the floor. Absolutely insane.
Anyone who says reference-level output under 10hz is useless..... just doesn't get it. biggrin.gif
It's funny. When you are looking for ULF content (like I do with my Infinite Baffle monster) it becomes the be all and end all. Many of the 25hz and above movies others regard as awesome for bass... I find lacking. I've become a ULF snob. If it doesn't displace over 20 liters of air, it's crap. (just kidding.... kinda)

I love ULF as well and it adds to the experience.
post #6143 of 16110
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Originally Posted by S_rangeBrew View Post

Anyone who says reference-level output under 10hz is useless..... just doesn't have it. biggrin.gif

Fixed that for ya. wink.gif
post #6144 of 16110
I've got a new copy of Amazing Spiderman on Blu-Ray just waiting for an evaluation, but that one will have to wait for my birthday next week. Been too busy catching up on The Walking Dead to evaluate any movies for the past little while.
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Originally Posted by S_rangeBrew View Post

Anyone who says reference-level output under 10hz is useless..... just doesn't get it.

With my concrete floors and walls, I'm not sure I'd notice anything below 10Hz at reference. My 11Hz LLT used to rattle things in the room, but you couldn't otherwise tell it was making any noise at all down that low. Except for the port noise, that is.

Now, above reference on the other hand... that might be another story biggrin.gif
post #6145 of 16110
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Originally Posted by MKtheater View Post

I love ULF as well and it adds to the experience.

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Originally Posted by Scott Simonian View Post

Fixed that for ya. wink.gif

ULF freaks unite!
Anyone know what that movie is with Dennis Quaid(?) where the giant silver prop plane is crashing.. there is a part in that which does *freaky* things in my room... I couldn't find any graphs of it.
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Originally Posted by Oklahoma Wolf View Post

I've got a new copy of Amazing Spiderman on Blu-Ray just waiting for an evaluation, but that one will have to wait for my birthday next week. Been too busy catching up on The Walking Dead to evaluate any movies for the past little while.
With my concrete floors and walls, I'm not sure I'd notice anything below 10Hz at reference. My 11Hz LLT used to rattle things in the room, but you couldn't otherwise tell it was making any noise at all down that low. Except for the port noise, that is.
Now, above reference on the other hand... that might be another story biggrin.gif

I've been spending most of my time on catching up with Breaking Bad, so I know how you feel....
I almost moved my home theater to my basement, but after experiencing the tactile, couch-moving effects on the standard 2x10 OSB 1st floor, I'm *very* glad I didn't. Tactile transducers such as Buttkickers would add nothing to my setup.
Of course, no port noise on my IB. Just clean bass, way below 10hz. I spent under $2000 on this subwoofer, and I very much doubt I could get noticeably better bass in this small (1600cf) sealed room, no matter how much more I spent. I've reached bass Nirvana, IMHO. Definitely not with any commercial offerings. My system makes a JL Gotham seems like a underperforming piece of garbage. (Hubris rocks)
post #6146 of 16110
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Originally Posted by S_rangeBrew View Post

Anyone know what that movie is with Dennis Quaid(?) where the giant silver prop plane is crashing.. there is a part in that which does *freaky* things in my room...

Flight of the Phoenix...
post #6147 of 16110
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Originally Posted by Steveo1234 View Post

The dark knight rises. DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1
f9172012441033481.jpg
Absolute >20hz monster. Its looking awesome! Going to do a few individual scenes of this one. Finally something worth the attention! Slight roll off below 20hz though so not an ULF monster. Guessing 4.5-5 star rating for this one.
Please note that this graph might be missing a level offset. Please compare to WOTW above for reference.

I checked out the initial plane scene, stadium scene, and the last "mushroom" scene....

TDKR is the new reference disc among all Batman movies. The opening plane scene is just fantastic! Wow!
post #6148 of 16110
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Originally Posted by quattroatl View Post

I checked out the initial plane scene, stadium scene, and the last "mushroom" scene....
TDKR is the new reference disc among all Batman movies. The opening plane scene is just fantastic! Wow!

Can't wait to hear this disc with my PB-13 Ultra!
post #6149 of 16110
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Originally Posted by Dave_6 View Post

Can't wait to hear this disc with my PB-13 Ultra!

You don't have to wait. Just go out and get your own illegal copy of the bluray like he did.
post #6150 of 16110
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Originally Posted by wth718 View Post

Regarding Amazing Spiderman, the issue is that while it has tons of LFE, it's not as heavily mixed with the 25-40Hz content that associate with loud, pounding bass. If your system is really strong there and not on the low end, I can see it being very underwhelming. Curious to hear from people with the monster systems that can get close to reference in the ULF octaves.

Unfortunately many of them no longer post in this thread. mad.gif
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