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post #6211 of 8243
11/27/12 at 7:55am
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Originally Posted by PioManiac View Post

Here's a time stamp to check...

Right at the end, specifically the slow motion part of the pre-flight sequence before going through the streets at 2:07:22 to 2:07:30
there's a very low ULF moment. The sound/feel resembles a slow speed helicopter blade thud  thud  thud , that had my Big 15" near field Velo pulsing pretty good
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Originally Posted by ja.jo View Post

The scene I am talking about is in the very end, just seconds from the end credits. When he is swinging in slow motion.
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In this sequence, all of the "thud" sounds are primarily above 80hz except for one. There's basically a single blip of ULF here.
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Originally Posted by fecund View Post

Yeah I didn't think much of it the first time I saw it, I remember the matrix type woosh but I went back and watched that scene and yeah there is definitely a good push in the room. I took my meter out and got 110dB (-2 LFE, -3 Sub) @ level 0 (Please no SPL wars just sharing in kind)
As another poster mentioned I went back and watched the subway scene too, I think that showed off the ULF even better.
I think the thing about spiderman maybe the ULF isn't sustained like a movie such as TWotT or Underworld, so it caused me to under-estimate it a bit. Moving it up to 4/5

The end scene is not that impressive, even if you're REALLY running your stuff hot. I don't think the subway scene is great either. But, I think the mix overall is artfully done and I liked the movie. I can't give it above a 3.5 in this thread because the quantity isn't there.
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post #6212 of 8243
11/27/12 at 1:06pm
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Originally Posted by Steveo1234 View Post

Dark knight rises.
Not sure how to rate it. Couldnt stand louder than -11db. Not sure if it was because the rest of the audio was a bit harsh or if I was just tired.
Anyways, I rate it a weakish 4.5.

I heard it is 5.1 maybe a 7.1 in the future?
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post #6213 of 8243
11/27/12 at 3:03pm
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Originally Posted by nube View Post

In this sequence, all of the "thud" sounds are primarily above 80hz except for one. There's basically a single blip of ULF here.
The end scene is not that impressive, even if you're REALLY running your stuff hot. I don't think the subway scene is great either. But, I think the mix overall is artfully done and I liked the movie. I can't give it above a 3.5 in this thread because the quantity isn't there.

That's what I was alluding to before with duration. In spiderman its a blip of ULF, it's not making my room vibrate by any means but it is there.

Now TDKR, that's got some bass so far. Couldn't resist watching the first scene with the airplanes real quick. When the plane approaches the other plane overhead, there is this bass that makes the room vibrate, the couch shake, and things rattle. Be interesting in seeing the chart for that part.
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post #6214 of 8243
11/27/12 at 4:00pm
I -LOVED- the drum sequences when I saw TDKR in IMAX, if my new sub can approach that experience at home I will be in heaven!

The drum sequences when I saw it at a regular theater absoultely sucked compared to the IMAX version.
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post #6215 of 8243
11/27/12 at 5:10pm
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Originally Posted by javi404 View Post

How did you get your settings to just say min/max/offs ?
sorry i just started playing with the new version and i feel like min/max makes more sense than the detaults.

Yah that is an older version v2.7, the latest version is v2.78 b21. I believe v2.7 is over a year old.
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post #6216 of 8243
11/28/12 at 5:15am
Ok recomendations to watch tonight:

Man on fire or Batman begins?
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post #6217 of 8243
11/28/12 at 9:09am
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post

Ok recomendations to watch tonight:
Man on fire or Batman begins?

Havent seen any of them in my home theater yet. Both good movies...I bet Batman Begins as I recall has good moments in sound.
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post #6218 of 8243
11/28/12 at 11:13am
Just curious if anyone has measured the "Speaker on the floor" scene in Private Parts. Haven't seen that in a while, but bet there's some good bass there =)
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post #6219 of 8243
11/28/12 at 2:55pm
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Originally Posted by Kadath View Post

Just curious if anyone has measured the "Speaker on the floor" scene in Private Parts. Haven't seen that in a while, but bet there's some good bass there =)

Good One...I saw that movie when it came out and havent recently now that I have a system worthy of that classic scene...biggrin.gif
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post #6220 of 8243
11/28/12 at 6:44pm
Soon batman begins. Was just ok for bass nothing special

Also watched again Abraham Lincoln vampire hunter. This is a STRONG 4.5. Very impressive in the bass depot. Have we graphed it yet?
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post #6221 of 8243
11/28/12 at 9:24pm
The Amazing Spiderman - 4 stars. I'm in full agreement with those who say the LFE needs to be run hot on this one. I was at +8dB as I usually am, and it sounded only level balanced to me. Also missing a bit from the upper end of the LFE spectrum, but still a lot of fun.

As for the movie itself... meh. After a while, it all started getting a bit stale for me. I do like some of the changes they made, but this is probably the last time I'm going to watch a reboot of something only ten years old. It just wasn't fresh enough for me. Then again, I've never been much of a Spiderman fan.

Looking forward to the Dark Knight Rises, hopefully next week.
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post #6222 of 8243
11/28/12 at 10:19pm
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Originally Posted by Oklahoma Wolf View Post

Looking forward to the Dark Knight Rises, hopefully next week.

TDKR will sound better than the Amazing Spiderman, guaranteed.

Some of the titles in the list still aren't available on Blu-Ray, right? Off the top of my head for the 5 star flicks, I'm talking about The Haunting, Pulse and Titan AE, right? I don't know about anyone else, but I couldn't tell you the last time I watched a DVD in my theatre room. Actually, I couldn't tell you the last time I watched a DVD here on my computer, either. The only thing I care more about more than bass is 1080p.

Also, was a determination ever reached for Transformers: Dark of the Moon on Blu-Ray? The DVD version is the one specifically listed at 4 1/2 stars, which I find a little odd. The movie is no slouch in the bass department, it pisses all over Revenge of the Fallen. That said, I'll keep discussion of Michael Bay's movies in here to a minimum; don't wanna make anyone sick or anything biggrin.gif

Bit surprised to see Battleship down at 2 1/2 stars. It's no award-winner, granted, but really, it's that bad?
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post #6223 of 8243
11/28/12 at 11:39pm
Triangle - 4 or 4.5 stars.
Almost constant LFE throughout the movie. Good amplitude and depth to it and plenty of variety. Texture/quality was a little lacking but still very good. Would love to see a plot of scene where a body is filmed underwater near the end.

Thx to this thread I found this movie. Thank you all. I would never have picked it out otherwise.
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post #6224 of 8243
11/28/12 at 11:41pm
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Originally Posted by Venturai View Post

Bit surprised to see Battleship down at 2 1/2 stars. It's no award-winner, granted, but really, it's that bad?

Yes, It is that bad.
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post #6225 of 8243
11/29/12 at 4:10am
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Originally Posted by Venturai View Post

TDKR will sound better than the Amazing Spiderman, guaranteed.
Some of the titles in the list still aren't available on Blu-Ray, right? Off the top of my head for the 5 star flicks, I'm talking about The Haunting, Pulse and Titan AE, right? I don't know about anyone else, but I couldn't tell you the last time I watched a DVD in my theatre room. Actually, I couldn't tell you the last time I watched a DVD here on my computer, either. The only thing I care more about more than bass is 1080p.
Also, was a determination ever reached for Transformers: Dark of the Moon on Blu-Ray? The DVD version is the one specifically listed at 4 1/2 stars, which I find a little odd. The movie is no slouch in the bass department, it pisses all over Revenge of the Fallen. That said, I'll keep discussion of Michael Bay's movies in here to a minimum; don't wanna make anyone sick or anything biggrin.gif
Bit surprised to see Battleship down at 2 1/2 stars. It's no award-winner, granted, but really, it's that bad?

Good movie, horrible soundtrack.....2012's worst soundtrack for me LOL.....the bass was filtered at 30-35hz lol.
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post #6226 of 8243
11/29/12 at 4:42am
i am starting to again not understand the purpose of filtering bass....doesnt make sense. and now with a capable to 16hz system I am now getting frustrated...not to the point where I wont watch a movie I WANT to see/own but enough to think during the movie...this is lacking! how I was last night with batman begins...could have been so much mroe...oh well

it makes you appreciate the movies that are full range sound glory. on the tap tonight is Man on fire
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post #6227 of 8243
11/29/12 at 6:38am
So filtering is saying that bass below say, 30Hz is completely gone. At least that's way I look at it. The other issue is amplitude. The bass is there, below 30hz, it's just not that pronounced or loud. I don't see the reason for doing either even though it has caused me more than one headache in my system. It's not like these mixers all of a sudden forgot how to mix low bass. I mean WOTW, HTTYD, TRON, The Immortals(admittedly clipped I think) are some that come to mind that got it right so clearly it can be done. I am guessing that when the studios put the movies on disk for home use they have to do a re-mix. I wonder why at that point they don't make it more full range. I don't know how much they care that we have sound systems that can go below 20Hz, 16Hz and beyond, I just enjoy the movies now regardless if it is filtered or not.
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post #6228 of 8243
11/29/12 at 6:47am
but what happened to "as the director intended"

it compares to Pan and Scan as opposed to letterbox debate. you are missing what was happening in the original mix. I dont get it
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post #6229 of 8243
11/29/12 at 7:37am
I agree %100. I guess what we really don't know is if the master that we see in theaters are filtered or they are just doing it for the home release.
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post #6230 of 8243
11/29/12 at 7:44am
Wow the first time this has come up - this week!
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post #6231 of 8243
11/29/12 at 7:55am
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

Wow the first time this has come up - this week!

I know I didnt want to bring it up...but I got diahrea of the keyboard....couldnt help myself from ranting about this...smile.giftongue.gif
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post #6232 of 8243
11/29/12 at 9:44am
I got Event Horizon from WalMart from the $7.88 blu-ray bin and wow, I forgot what a fun movie this is and lots of good bass also!
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post #6233 of 8243
11/29/12 at 9:53am
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post

Soon batman begins. Was just ok for bass nothing special
Also watched again Abraham Lincoln vampire hunter. This is a STRONG 4.5. Very impressive in the bass depot. Have we graphed it yet?

Wasn't that impressed with Vampire Hunter, frankly. Lots of bass and lots of bass sweeps in particular, but nothing to speak of below 20Hz.
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post #6234 of 8243
11/29/12 at 11:29am
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Originally Posted by Jonspicoli View Post

Good One...I saw that movie when it came out and havent recently now that I have a system worthy of that classic scene...biggrin.gif

Glad someone else thought so, we need to do a science on this!
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post #6235 of 8243
11/29/12 at 11:34am
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Originally Posted by wth718 View Post

Wasn't that impressed with Vampire Hunter, frankly. Lots of bass and lots of bass sweeps in particular, but nothing to speak of below 20Hz.


Honestly, I just can't get myself to watch a film about our 16th President hunting vampires.






Ian biggrin.gif
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post #6236 of 8243
11/29/12 at 11:56am
i actually thought the same thing until I got it on the cheap. if you forget about him being president...its actually pretty good.
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post #6237 of 8243
11/29/12 at 12:03pm
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Originally Posted by Steveo1234 View Post

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Originally Posted by Venturai View Post

Bit surprised to see Battleship down at 2 1/2 stars. It's no award-winner, granted, but really, it's that bad?

Yes, It is that bad.

If you want to see bad you have to see the Mario Peebles knock off called American Warships, makes Battleship look great.
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post #6238 of 8243
11/29/12 at 12:09pm
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post

i actually thought the same thing until I got it on the cheap. if you forget about him being president...its actually pretty good.

I actually really enjoyed ALVH as well, much more than I expected. Watched it the other night and would probably go 4 on the LFE overall. Some very good moments, but nothing special overall subjectively.
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post #6239 of 8243
11/30/12 at 4:29am
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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

If you want to see bad you have to see the Mario Peebles knock off called American Warships, makes Battleship look great.

American Warships has worse LFE than Battleship? Hard to belive, but I guess it could happen.
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post #6240 of 8243
11/30/12 at 4:42am
while Man of Fire was very good in the bass department, i would not have it as a 4.5 A 4, yes but just not enough ULF for me. mostly ambiance type stuff.
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