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post #6361 of 16113
Is this a better bass movie than Batman Begins, maybe, depends on ones type of bass. Take the sandstorm scene FOTP which is one of my favorite scenes ever, it does not have much below 20hz but at 20hz is very loud and what makes this scene a 5 star. That barrel roll is amazing and that is what loud 20-25hz feels like. You don't get any of that in TDNR. However, there are some nice bass moments that pressurize the room which I love. I thought the tumbler effects in TDN were better than this film. TDN tumbler scenes just gripped you more. I did like the score especially at the end of the movie and Bane's voice was crystal clear and resonated my chest! Very cool. I will watch this movie 5 more times as I liked it. I just like deep sounding bass better than midbass and when a movie has both, well, awesome.
post #6362 of 16113
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Originally Posted by djbluemax1 View Post

Some of us actually have lives beyond monitoring some internet forum every minute of the day rolleyes.gif
Anyway, there's a much better place for me to discuss Movies With Bass than this thread full of whining subjective "The Bass is AWESOME YO!" and a complete lack of data, so all of you folks have fun patting each other on the back and giving your subjective opinions about 5-star bass to everything that comes out. I'm out. Don't bother replying to this post or asking me any further questions on this thread. I won't see them.
Unsubscribing.
Max

post #6363 of 16113
Lol. I will never understand the whole "people don't agree with me 100% so I'm taking my ball and going home." Most long-running threads in the sub forum have disagreements and differences of opinion. Why should this be any different? I wish there were more graphs, too. But graphs alone don't encompass ALL of the fun in these movies. There are countless scenes/movies that we cite on here that may not have ULF but are demo-worthy (MK just mentioned FOTP). Underworld Awakening is a 30 Hz-fest, but one of my favorite demo movies cuz there's just so much of it! biggrin.gif

I'm all for objective data. But at present I don't have the time or ability to post my own. But there's nothing wrong with people stating what movies they've enjoyed on their systems.

Folks, it's not that serious! tongue.gif
post #6364 of 16113
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Originally Posted by wth718 View Post

Lol. I will never understand the whole "people don't agree with me 100% so I'm taking my ball and going home." Most long-running threads in the sub forum have disagreements and differences of opinion. Why should this be any different? I wish there were more graphs, too. But graphs alone don't encompass ALL of the fun in these movies. There are countless scenes/movies that we cite on here that may not have ULF but are demo-worthy (MK just mentioned FOTP). Underworld Awakening is a 30 Hz-fest, but one of my favorite demo movies cuz there's just so much of it! biggrin.gif
I'm all for objective data. But at present I don't have the time or ability to post my own. But there's nothing wrong with people stating what movies they've enjoyed on their systems.
Folks, it's not that serious! tongue.gif
NOT SERIOUS! ARE YOU KIDDING ME! Bass is life, it can get no more serious than that. tongue.gifbiggrin.gif
post #6365 of 16113
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Originally Posted by raistline View Post

NOT SERIOUS! ARE YOU KIDDING ME! Bass is LFE, it can get no more serious than that. tongue.gifbiggrin.gif

Fixed that for ya! wink.gif
post #6366 of 16113
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post

...with charts to display what you are hearing.

No, in most Hometheaters it's not about what you are hearing......but to actually feel and hear what is recorded on your media....as with DVD, Bluray etc.

Very few hometheater owner's actually know what is recorded on a disc....that's why Spectrum Lab is such a "clearifying" tool - put simply - it shows what IS recorded - GO for it!
(and get yourself some more ULF capable subs to experience what is recorded)
post #6367 of 16113
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Originally Posted by wth718 View Post

Lol. I will never understand the whole "people don't agree with me 100% so I'm taking my ball and going home." Most long-running threads in the sub forum have disagreements and differences of opinion. Why should this be any different? I wish there were more graphs, too. But graphs alone don't encompass ALL of the fun in these movies. There are countless scenes/movies that we cite on here that may not have ULF but are demo-worthy (MK just mentioned FOTP). Underworld Awakening is a 30 Hz-fest, but one of my favorite demo movies cuz there's just so much of it! biggrin.gif
I'm all for objective data. But at present I don't have the time or ability to post my own. But there's nothing wrong with people stating what movies they've enjoyed on their systems.
Folks, it's not that serious! tongue.gif

The issue is that those of us that started this thread did so for actual objective data and to quantify films with bass instead of just saying every movie that comes out that makes boom sounds out of their subwoofer automatically top echelon.

"Wow! I felt a wave of bass. 5 star, brah!" rolleyes.gif

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with liking a movie that happens to be a 30hz fest or whatever. It's claiming that it IS the best or as good as the best because .... of what? Simply because you liked it? No. That's not objective.
post #6368 of 16113
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Originally Posted by Scott Simonian View Post

The issue is that those of us that started this thread did so for actual objective data and to quantify films with bass instead of just saying every movie that comes out that makes boom sounds out of their subwoofer automatically top echelon.
"Wow! I felt a wave of bass. 5 star, brah!" rolleyes.gif
There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with liking a movie that happens to be a 30hz fest or whatever. It's claiming that it IS the best or as good as the best because .... of what? Simply because you liked it? No. That's not objective.

Well, I've had a little time with the RTA and have a bit of a mea culpa. TDKR isn't a 5. I'd say 4/4.5. Couple of quick observations. it has most content centered at 30 Hz, and some down to 20, but not much to speak of below that, as I suspected. Compared to Dark Knight, I would say they are different, but roughly equal. TDK plays lower, but TDKR plays louder and has more content. (Side note; the Tumbler scenes are centered squarely at 30 Hz) I still hold the opinion that TDKR is a more fun bass movie because of the frequency and volume of the bass.

I don't disagree that there are some people who give ratings based on systems that can't play anywhere close to what is actually found on the disc. But the essential question is what makes a great bass movie? Aside from the obvious ones. Look at the last few pages-some downgrade Spider-Man for the exact opposite reason they downgrade TDKR. One has superb ULF and not much low/mid-bass or volume. The other has lots of low/mid-bass with plenty of volume, but no ULF. Tron, UA, Finding Nemo, all have the majority of their content at 25-30. All great bass flicks deserving of the high ratings they get. Everyone has their views, obviously. I'm someone lucky enough to have a pretty capable system and can experience the ULFs although not at the volume as some others. I just advocate some balance, that's all.

That's my 2 cents and the last I'll say on the matter. Carry on...smile.gifcool.gif
post #6369 of 16113
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Originally Posted by Scott Simonian View Post

The issue is that those of us that started this thread did so for actual objective data and to quantify films with bass instead of just saying every movie that comes out that makes boom sounds out of their subwoofer automatically top echelon.
"Wow! I felt a wave of bass. 5 star, brah!" rolleyes.gif
There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with liking a movie that happens to be a 30hz fest or whatever. It's claiming that it IS the best or as good as the best because .... of what? Simply because you liked it? No. That's not objective.
How about starting up a CHARTS ONLY thread?? No ratings, no prefences, just a chart and some basic info on the flick.

Just thinking out loud. smile.gif
post #6370 of 16113
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Originally Posted by edoggrc51 View Post

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Originally Posted by Scott Simonian View Post

The issue is that those of us that started this thread did so for actual objective data and to quantify films with bass instead of just saying every movie that comes out that makes boom sounds out of their subwoofer automatically top echelon.
"Wow! I felt a wave of bass. 5 star, brah!" rolleyes.gif
There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with liking a movie that happens to be a 30hz fest or whatever. It's claiming that it IS the best or as good as the best because .... of what? Simply because you liked it? No. That's not objective.
How about starting up a CHARTS ONLY thread?? No ratings, no prefences, just a chart and some basic info on the flick.

Just thinking out loud. smile.gif

There is, just not here. lol This tread is too polluted with subjective opinions.
post #6371 of 16113
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Originally Posted by sputter1 View Post

There is, just not here. lol This tread is too polluted with subjective opinions.
Where? Show me! lol
post #6372 of 16113
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Originally Posted by holt7153 View Post

Just pushing the new(er) gear a little, and waiting for you to bring Art of Flight over.

Art of Flight might be too much for your system eek.gifeek.gif
post #6373 of 16113
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Originally Posted by pokekevin View Post

Art of Flight might be too much for your system eek.gifeek.gif
Oh dang!!! Them sum fighting words right there! biggrin.gif
post #6374 of 16113
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Originally Posted by pokekevin View Post

Art of Flight might be too much for your system eek.gifeek.gif

Nonsense-I own it but loaned it to Ivan before I put up the PJ/screen and haven't seen it since eek.gifsmile.gif .
post #6375 of 16113
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Originally Posted by holt7153 View Post

Nonsense-I own it but loaned it to Ivan before I put up the PJ/screen and haven't seen it since eek.gifsmile.gif .

Lies!
Just because it bottomed your subs doesn't mean you need to pretend you never owned it!! (It bottomed mine...due to a bad audyssey run:()
post #6376 of 16113
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Originally Posted by pokekevin View Post

It bottomed mine...due to a bad audyssey run

Sorry it bottomed out your Polk PSW10s, but don't blame that on Audyssey biggrin.gif
post #6377 of 16113
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Originally Posted by holt7153 View Post

Sorry it bottomed out your Polk PSW10s, but don't blame that on Audyssey biggrin.gif

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post #6379 of 16113
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Originally Posted by Scott Simonian View Post

The issue is that those of us that started this thread did so for actual objective data and to quantify films with bass instead of just saying every movie that comes out that makes boom sounds out of their subwoofer automatically top echelon.
"Wow! I felt a wave of bass. 5 star, brah!" rolleyes.gif
There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with liking a movie that happens to be a 30hz fest or whatever. It's claiming that it IS the best or as good as the best because .... of what? Simply because you liked it? No. That's not objective.

I've read this thread for a long time. This post clearly states one of the reasons that this thread is dying. Another factor that makes anything (except properly-presented graphs) virtually useless is the continual comment such as "I ran my subs 6dB hot!", which gives an artificial flavor to the opinions that follow. So, someone has a different system than you, a different room/acoustic environment than you, and runs his sub(s) outside flat calibration values on purpose. It's quite easy to see how the original posters (with their graphs) couldn't abide anymore.

On the other hand, there's nothing wrong with liking the bass in any movie, as long as one doesn't make unfounded claims of "greatness" for a soundtrack that sounds pretty good.

My two cents'

Lee
post #6380 of 16113
Dark Knight Rises... I'm thinking four stars. It's definitely hotter in the LFE than usual for me. Way hotter than Amazing Spiderman was.

I personally didn't feel the "grab the back of the couch and shake it" effect the horns give me when the mid to upper teens content is present at high levels... just a lot of 20Hz and up. Reminds me of Thor, actually, which I've also started thinking of as a four.

I just feel that if the LFE levels on AS and DKR were made equal, it would be two sides of the same coin. AS... not enough upper bass. DKR... not enough infrasonic bass. Put them together, you have your five star.

Just my opinion. Nobody has to agree with it wink.gif
post #6381 of 16113
This thread has seriously gone to crap. What the hell is going on guys?

I wish people like JBLsound was still here. Have we all forgot what this thread is suppose to be about? There's too much arguing going on. The original thread had so much order.

Here is the original thread in case everyone needs a reminder about the purpose of this thread- http://www.avsforum.com/t/755493/the-master-list-of-dvd-hd-dvd-blu-ray-movies-with-bass-thread-with-waterfalls
post #6382 of 16113
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Originally Posted by Brian Fineberg View Post

ok it appears the only usefulness of this thread is now the first post. the rest of this crap is just that a bunch of people being crybabies.

charts are good to find out what your actually hearing/feeling, and thats about it. Its about the amount of nice clean bass a movie has not what frequency it is. if it were soley about sub 30hz bass then a new thread should be made "Bass movies with sub 30hz bass" this is about a list of bass movies...with charts to display what you are hearing.

 

You think a movie that only scrape down to 30Hz is a bass movie??

post #6383 of 16113
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Originally Posted by wth718 View Post

Lol. I will never understand the whole "people don't agree with me 100% so I'm taking my ball and going home." Most long-running threads in the sub forum have disagreements and differences of opinion. Why should this be any different? I wish there were more graphs, too. But graphs alone don't encompass ALL of the fun in these movies. There are countless scenes/movies that we cite on here that may not have ULF but are demo-worthy (MK just mentioned FOTP). Underworld Awakening is a 30 Hz-fest, but one of my favorite demo movies cuz there's just so much of it! biggrin.gif

I'm all for objective data. But at present I don't have the time or ability to post my own. But there's nothing wrong with people stating what movies they've enjoyed on their systems.

Folks, it's not that serious! tongue.gif

Max didn't leave because people disagree with him - he left because there is a much better bass forum now someplace else. Since the heavyweight contributors left this thread it has become just "the bass in xxxx is awesome!" which is just pointlessly subjective because one person's 'awesome' is another person's 'average'. That is why graphs are needed - to remove the subjectivity as to what constitues deep, loud bass. A good example of the pointlessness of subjectivity is in the recent posts about TDKR - the graphs show nothing below 30Hz (except for one brief scene) yet people here are calling the bass 'awesome'. It isn't. It is just *very* loud above 30Hz. Also, if someone has subs that only go down to about 20Hz, flat, then their subjective opinion about really deep bass, well into single figures, is also pointless. Again, graphs tell it like it is.

post #6384 of 16113
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Originally Posted by sputter1 View Post

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Originally Posted by edoggrc51 View Post

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Originally Posted by Scott Simonian View Post

The issue is that those of us that started this thread did so for actual objective data and to quantify films with bass instead of just saying every movie that comes out that makes boom sounds out of their subwoofer automatically top echelon.
"Wow! I felt a wave of bass. 5 star, brah!" rolleyes.gif
There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with liking a movie that happens to be a 30hz fest or whatever. It's claiming that it IS the best or as good as the best because .... of what? Simply because you liked it? No. That's not objective.
How about starting up a CHARTS ONLY thread?? No ratings, no prefences, just a chart and some basic info on the flick.

Just thinking out loud. smile.gif

There is, just not here. lol This tread is too polluted with subjective opinions.

 

PLEASE don't publish where the other forum is, or the people who ruined this thread will migrate over there and ruin that one too.

post #6385 of 16113
Yes it sounds like where you should be.
post #6386 of 16113
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

You think a movie that only scrape down to 30Hz is a bass movie??

if it is loaded with it, then yes I do. AKA the Avengers is a bass movie. Is it the best deepest bass around? no. but it definitly has a ton of bass.
post #6387 of 16113
Questions from someone who has never posted here in this thread.

Is a movie only as good as the bass that's in it? Would you all seriously entertain watching a movie just to hear your subs go crazy? This is just the impression I get. Maybe I'm missing something.
post #6388 of 16113
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Originally Posted by Prime316 View Post

Questions from someone who has never posted here in this thread.

Is a movie only as good as the bass that's in it? Would you all seriously entertain watching a movie just to hear your subs go crazy? This is just the impression I get. Maybe I'm missing something.

You are missing compartmentalization. Yes, I would seriously consider watching a movie just for the subs to go crazy. And, one for my kids to go crazy. And, one for many other things, either in isolation or in combination. It's not really a difficult concept wink.gif
post #6389 of 16113
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Originally Posted by Brown Eye View Post

In Thor, how low does the bass go in the scene when Thor flips the table?

Should I post this question in a different thread? I got a feeling it may be off topic here.
post #6390 of 16113
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Originally Posted by sputter1 View Post

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Originally Posted by edoggrc51 View Post

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Originally Posted by Scott Simonian View Post

The issue is that those of us that started this thread did so for actual objective data and to quantify films with bass instead of just saying every movie that comes out that makes boom sounds out of their subwoofer automatically top echelon.

"Wow! I felt a wave of bass. 5 star, brah!" rolleyes.gif

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with liking a movie that happens to be a 30hz fest or whatever. It's claiming that it IS the best or as good as the best because .... of what? Simply because you liked it? No. That's not objective.
How about starting up a CHARTS ONLY thread?? No ratings, no prefences, just a chart and some basic info on the flick.


Just thinking out loud. smile.gif


There is, just not here. lol This tread is too polluted with subjective opinions.

PLEASE don't publish where the other forum is, or the people who ruined this thread will migrate over there and ruin that one too.



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