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post #7081 of 16164
I just watched Skyfall again and during the explosions in the last scene I had the volume at -8...my wife came running downstairs telling me the whole house was shaking!! She hasn't done that in a very long time, so that says something for the LFE in that scene. I would love to see a waterfall of that scene (and the train crash scene as well). They just have to be at least 20 Hz and below....my bet is the last scene is the lowest.
post #7082 of 16164
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Originally Posted by edoggrc51 View Post

Maybe I missed it but is there any graphs on Dredd? Specifically of chapter 10 between the 51:30 & 52:30 mark. That part does some hairy stuff in my room!

Yep, you missed it. I assume you're talking about the Classroom scene in Dredd, as that is roughly the timestamp on it: 51:30-52:30. Flageborg did graph it here:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1333462/the-new-master-list-of-bass-in-movies-with-frequency-charts/6840#post_22857467

It's good, but so low level that, unless you're running your subs super hot, it's nothing more than a slight-yet-constant pressurization. As MK said, it's reminiscent of the Pulse server room scene, though not recorded nearly so hot. Speaking of, remember when that scene was regarded as a sub killer??? Hahaha I can't imagine that destroying any high-end ID or DIY subs these days...
post #7083 of 16164
What about graphs on the THX DEMO SCENE, at the end of Avatar, that scene is NUTS, both in the low And high freq.
post #7084 of 16164
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Originally Posted by Joshjp View Post

What about graphs on the THX DEMO SCENE, at the end of Avatar, that scene is NUTS, both in the low And high freq.

Is this demo you are talking about after the end credits?
post #7085 of 16164
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Originally Posted by Slingblayde View Post

Is this demo you are talking about after the end credits?


Yes, it is.
post #7086 of 16164
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Originally Posted by Prime316 View Post

Yes, it is.

Right on, I know what I am watching tomorrow after work biggrin.gif
post #7087 of 16164
Yea it really good, to bad i dont have that movie anymore, i NEED it back.
post #7088 of 16164
Dont forget to tell us what you think.
post #7089 of 16164
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Originally Posted by Joshjp View Post

What about graphs on the THX DEMO SCENE, at the end of Avatar, that scene is NUTS, both in the low And high freq.

THX Amazing Life - it is more "userfriendly" due to it's long-range bass...

THX_Amazing_Life.jpg


One of many youtube-versions...do you experience any difference?
THX_Amazing_Life_youtube.jpg
Edited by Flageborg - 2/17/13 at 11:55pm
post #7090 of 16164
THX amazing life can be found on this page under THX along with a lot of other trailers.
post #7091 of 16164
Oh thats the THX demo on both of the blurays Scuba and Leo made, with the things that look like metallic flowers and mushrooms. I have seen it, it is fantastic.
post #7092 of 16164
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Originally Posted by Follz20 View Post

THX amazing life can be found on this page under THX along with a lot of other trailers.

Downloaded demo, but why is the soundtrack different? Anyone?

THX_Amazing_Life_demoworld.jpg
post #7093 of 16164
Ok please correct me if im wrong, but the purple dota on the graphs are were the bass is? Thanks
post #7094 of 16164
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Originally Posted by Joshjp View Post

Ok please correct me if im wrong, but the purple dota on the graphs are were the bass is? Thanks

purple is where the bass is loudest. frequencies (which define what is bass and what is treble) are shown just above the colored area you are looking a runnign from left (low) to right. about the left half is certainly in the bass region. the pretty colors are how loud the sound is at the particular frequency (at the top) and time (axis running vertically at left)
post #7095 of 16164
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Originally Posted by Reddig View Post

Just watched The Man with the Iron Fist. It had some great bass sweeps during some of the action scenes you don't hear very often. I loved the whole mix. Very active surrounds. Awesome action too.

Just finished watching this - WOW - insane amounts of LFE. The movie itself, well, pretty over the top, but the visuals and audio were very good, might buy it just for that.
post #7096 of 16164
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Originally Posted by nube View Post

Yep, you missed it. I assume you're talking about the Classroom scene in Dredd, as that is roughly the timestamp on it: 51:30-52:30. Flageborg did graph it here:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1333462/the-new-master-list-of-bass-in-movies-with-frequency-charts/6840#post_22857467

It's good, but so low level that, unless you're running your subs super hot, it's nothing more than a slight-yet-constant pressurization. As MK said, it's reminiscent of the Pulse server room scene, though not recorded nearly so hot. Speaking of, remember when that scene was regarded as a sub killer??? Hahaha I can't imagine that destroying any high-end ID or DIY subs these days...

that part was buffetting my room, keep having to pop my ears after...
post #7097 of 16164
Double post
post #7098 of 16164
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Originally Posted by nube View Post

Yep, you missed it. I assume you're talking about the Classroom scene in Dredd, as that is roughly the timestamp on it: 51:30-52:30. Flageborg did graph it here:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1333462/the-new-master-list-of-bass-in-movies-with-frequency-charts/6840#post_22857467

It's good, but so low level that, unless you're running your subs super hot, it's nothing more than a slight-yet-constant pressurization. As MK said, it's reminiscent of the Pulse server room scene, though not recorded nearly so hot. Speaking of, remember when that scene was regarded as a sub killer??? Hahaha I can't imagine that destroying any high-end ID or DIY subs these days...
Don't have to run the subs hot to get full effects or that scene at all IMO.
post #7099 of 16164
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Originally Posted by JapanDave View Post

Don't have to run the subs hot to get full effects or that scene at all IMO.
+1
I'm not running my subs hot, but yet I still picked up on the effects of that a scene.
post #7100 of 16164
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Originally Posted by djoberg View Post

I just watched Skyfall again and during the explosions in the last scene I had the volume at -8...my wife came running downstairs telling me the whole house was shaking!! She hasn't done that in a very long time, so that says something for the LFE in that scene. I would love to see a waterfall of that scene (and the train crash scene as well). They just have to be at least 20 Hz and below....my bet is the last scene is the lowest.

i thought those scenes were great as well. several pictures on the wall were out of adjustment.
post #7101 of 16164
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Originally Posted by airgas1998 View Post

i thought those scenes were great as well. several pictures on the wall were out of adjustment.

Yeah, well....with that PC13 Ultra at work it's no wonder you had "pictures...out of adjustment." smile.gif
post #7102 of 16164
I can't believe Greg Russell mixed Skyfall. It's a good track but a far cry from
Transformers 3. And it's a few DB's too hot.
post #7103 of 16164
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Originally Posted by Brad Horstkotte View Post

Just finished watching this - WOW - insane amounts of LFE. The movie itself, well, pretty over the top, but the visuals and audio were very good, might buy it just for that.

Cool man. I ended up buying it myself.
post #7104 of 16164
Is this worthwhile to watch/listen on our subwoofer systems?
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Originally Posted by javi404 View Post

found this, it has been sped up for audibility, but unknown to what speed factor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-8ij80vs1E
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.Russian Fireball Largest Ever Detected by CTBTO's Infrasound Sensors .
Published on Feb 19, 2013

Infrasonic waves from the meteor that broke up over Russia's Ural mountains last week were the largest ever recorded by the CTBTO's International Monitoring System. Infrasound is low frequency sound with a range of less than 10 Hz. The blast was detected by 17 infrasound stations in the CTBTO's network, which tracks atomic blasts across the planet. Listen to the audio files of the infrasound recording after it has been filtered and the signal accelerated.



post #7105 of 16164
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Originally Posted by JapanDave View Post

Don't have to run the subs hot to get full effects or that scene at all IMO.

Really? Sure looks like you're running the subs exceptionally hot in your recently posted response here:



Seems to me, if 70hz is your crossover, you're running the subs

+10dB hot at 20hz
+12dB hot at 10hz

Now, obviously I don't care how you like your system and particular house curve, but compared to flat response, you most definitely ARE running your subs hot, and you're doing so across almost the entire bandwidth.

And, I think it's more than a little disingenuous to claim that "you don't have to run the subs hot to get full effects or[sic] that scene." You're basically getting double and or quadruple the output at the ULF frequencies in question in that scene than I am, simply by not having flat response. No kidding you're going to feel it more...
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Originally Posted by edoggrc51 View Post

+1
I'm not running my subs hot, but yet I still picked up on the effects of that a scene.

See above. Also, sure, you can "pick up" on the effects, but, as I was saying, it's not especially spectacular if you're playing back the content exactly as it's recorded. It's just not a hot effect. Noticeable? Yes. Hot like scenes in some other movies? Definitely not. Liked it, but not overwhelmed.
post #7106 of 16164
I run the subs hot so I can feel the low end more as well but I only mention if a movie has bass compared to the reference movies of WOTW amd FOTP.
post #7107 of 16164
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Originally Posted by nube View Post

It's just not a hot effect. Noticeable? Yes. Hot like scenes in some other movies? Definitely not. Liked it, but not overwhelmed.
I can agree with this. Definitely not mixed HOT, but the effect is noticeable.

FWIW, I was listening at reference levels so im sure that helped bring it out some.
post #7108 of 16164
I also watch at reference but with the subs about 5 dBs hot.
post #7109 of 16164
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Originally Posted by Brad Horstkotte View Post

Just finished watching this - WOW - insane amounts of LFE. The movie itself, well, pretty over the top, but the visuals and audio were very good, might buy it just for that.

Totally in agreement on MwtIF. Awesome bass, had my room shaking. The story and the movie itself is an homage to old school kung fu flicks. I loved it.
post #7110 of 16164
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Originally Posted by nube View Post

Really? Sure looks like you're running the subs exceptionally hot in your recently posted response here:



Seems to me, if 70hz is your crossover, you're running the subs

+10dB hot at 20hz
+12dB hot at 10hz

Now, obviously I don't care how you like your system and particular house curve, but compared to flat response, you most definitely ARE running your subs hot, and you're doing so across almost the entire bandwidth.

And, I think it's more than a little disingenuous to claim that "you don't have to run the subs hot to get full effects or[sic] that scene." You're basically getting double and or quadruple the output at the ULF frequencies in question in that scene than I am, simply by not having flat response. No kidding you're going to feel it more...
See above. Also, sure, you can "pick up" on the effects, but, as I was saying, it's not especially spectacular if you're playing back the content exactly as it's recorded. It's just not a hot effect. Noticeable? Yes. Hot like scenes in some other movies? Definitely not. Liked it, but not overwhelmed.
You can think it's more than a little disingenuous all you like, at reference level I would have to agree with you. But, you can't go around assuming how someone has watched a movie. No matter how the 'house curve' is setup , I very rarely watch a movie at reference level, usually -10 to -15 dB's , so the SPL of 20hz will still only be reference level. If I am not mistaken all of these movies are rated on their merits @ reference level, correct me if I am wrong. If I ever did watch a movie @ reference I state that fact, but all things relative my base is no louder than anyone else's who has a flat in room response and watches the movie at reference..

And just for you information, I set the highpass @ 35hz for my mains and surrounds so more like +5dB's `20hz. wink.gif
Edited by JapanDave - 2/21/13 at 3:43pm
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