The New Master List of BASS in Movies with Frequency Charts - Page 25

Sweet! Look forward to seeing what you got cookin'.


*laughs*

Touche. Well played, sir.

Ok, I'll stop messing with Scott long enough to ask a question...

Anyone graphed a scene from District 9 as they're first getting out of the trucks towards the beginning of the movie? Time stamp is 12:24. Sounds like there's some really low stuff in this film, just not a lot of it.

Oh, and don't point your fookin' tentacles at me, man...(obviously I'm currently watching D9).

Tron Legacy....5 star sound 1Star movie. God what a bore.

holy cow, watched Terminator Salvation last night at reference level (maybe a little more since i run the subs a bit hotter), and it took down my 20A circuit twice.

never had this happened before.

I remember voting 5 stars for The Frighteners, but being such an old movie it doesn't have a lot of infrasonic stuff. I think I'd be ok with 4 the way I rate stuff now.

Saw Limitless last night. Decent amount of infrasonics in this one, but this is not really a bass movie. 3 star vote from me. I have got to waterfall the Virgin promo at the start of the movie. All of a sudden, the horns let loose a blast of sub 20Hz content that had everything in the room rattling.

I want to get my hands on Monster House again. I don't recall that one being only a 3.5-4 star... once the house gets up and starts walking around Randy really cranks up the bass.

Agreed. Tron mixes it up well between music, action, and dramatic effect. Battle LA had more quantity, but I started to get sick of EVERY machine gun blast pulsing my room with LFE.

Limitless - DVD, Dolby Digital

Upgrading my vote to four stars. This movie has more than I suspected it did. It goes all the way down. If this movie had more action, I'd have no problem calling it 4.5. But it's too light on the LFE moments to vote it that high.

Love the Virgin Produced promo. They ain't afraid of messing with people's subwoofers

I was watching Priest, then all of a sudden the room was fluttering. Lots of good LFE in this movie.

Wow! Nice graphs, guys. I haven't seen either of those yet.

That looks very promising. I liked the trailer, reminded me of Assassin's Creed. I should have the blu-ray sometime next year.

Finally got the Superman Anthology on blu-ray, as far as I know all 4 of the Christopher Reeve movies got brand-new DTS-HD Master tracks, the first three in 5.1, the fourth in stereo. Unfortunately Superman Returns is unchanged. Once I get time I'll check to see if there's any bass improvements in the first two.

Resident Evil (blu-ray, Dolby TrueHD 5.1) :


Almost -35db average between 30-40hz which is very good. Decent extension down to 27hz, and okay amount of 11hz stuff. I agree with its current 4 star rating.

Oklahoma Wolf you are clipping your input brah. That can cause some extra low frequency goodness to appear in your charts which is not actually there. It can also cause you to not be able to see the actual most dynamic peaks in output. Lower that down some if you can.

I did - the UCA222 input gain was already cranked way down, almost to the bottom of the slider. Had a tough time getting it to not clip over the majority of the Limitless waterfalls.

This was the best I could do with the time I was willing to spend on it.

I think I've seen that "Virgin Produced" logo a couple times now. Sure wakes you up in a hurry if you have the subs for it.

Hmmmm. Watch the movie at a lower volume?

That's not very fun though is it?

Is priest out already? How are people getting this one already?

I graphed it using a direct loop through the UCA222... LFE track was ripped right off the disc with bass redirection from the other channels below 80Hz via AC3Filter. First time I've used the Hypercube transcoding method on anything other than a DTS audio file.

I suppose I could have lowered the playback volume of the resulting WAV file a little more (Winamp), but it was already way down too

I think it's actually less trouble to do DTS this way and just use my standalone player with the Dolby Digital decoder for non DTS movies. But that player doesn't have the advantage of the UCA's bandwidth.

Sometimes I feel like waterfalls aren't worth the trouble given the time it takes to get them. That's why I haven't bothered with Windtalkers yet.


Frighteners does have sub 20Hz content, just not much. Randy just needed better toys than he had back in 1996

The club scene... I forgot about that one. Maybe I should try and get a few more shots from Limitless when I can find some time.

With all this talk about below 20 hz just wondering how many of you out there have systems that you can actually feel it because we all know you can't hear below 20hz.
In my case I have 2 sub 12 in my one theater room and 2 sub 2 in our other I have no problem feeling stuff that goes quite deep.

I can hear to 16Hz without too much trouble... it's one of the major reasons I picked 16Hz as the low corner for the two tapped horns. That, and I wanted them to have no trouble playing back the bottom notes of a 32' organ stop.

I try not to let them go much below 15Hz in movies. Excursion becomes an issue. I still need a better highpass than I have.

Depends on the definition of "hear" vs "detect". According to research, hearing can go far below 20Hz. It just needs more spl to be 'heard'. How did the investigators know it was hearing and not feeling? They used a set of controls that were deaf......

JSS

I feel like I hear below it, but does it really matter? the impression of hearing it is good enough for me.

I'm not sure if this movie is in the list but I watched it last night and I really thought that it has a good bass... Not to mention the whole sound quality and story.
What do you guys think about this.

Definitely a must own for me. Even the preview had me going for my wallet!

It has nothing to do with hearing. In the thread about <20 Hz, I posted about the simple test I've done with various movies over the years.

I play a scene with an 18 or 20 Hz HPF in the system, then I play the scene with no HPF, which is flat to 3 Hz. I then ask if the listeners noticed any difference and, if so, I ask them to describe the difference.

My favorite from yesterdays demo was "It was like the Matrix, when Neo flexes the hallway", because that's really a good analogy, IMO.

One guy was in a back bedroom when the first scene was demoed. Later, when the others were offering their opinions on the difference, he said:

"On the first 2 run throughs, I heard and felt the bass. On the 3rd run through
The pictures on the wall and the door went 'DUT-DUT-DUT-DUT-DUT, and I knew something was different".

It's a pressure wave, or more correctly, a combination of pressure waves. When one guy said it pulsed and felt like the floor rippled, I agreed with the description and said that the pressure waves do actually cause the floor to move.

Since I use stacked dual-opposed, dual 15, up/down-firing modules, there is virtually no up/down movement by the subs themselves. I've verified this many years ago and since. It's just the pressure waves actually flexing all of the boundaries, since the room is of frame construction and all wooden beams, studs and joists have a L/360 deflection number that describe their stiffness.

In a masonry room, like MKT's or some basement rooms, there is a) far less transmission loss, so the pressure waves create stronger room gain and b) far less deflection due to much higher stiffness of the masonry vs wood framing, so the pressure waves are more intense, but cause less flexing.

At ground zero, right at the center of the stack of subs, the pressure wave may be in excess of 110dB at frequencies <20 Hz, per stack. The room gain of +15dB at 10 Hz occurs at the speed of sound, or perceptibly instantaneous to the original pressure waves.

That's a LOT for the boundaries immediately proximate to the stacks to resist. Then, consider that a 5 Hz pressure wave has hit the door in the back bedroom before it has even finished leaving the stack, since the single completed wave is 226 feet in length and the bedroom door is only 40 feet from the stack, it's something that takes a bit of pondering to wrap your head around, and certainly something to behold.

Of course, YMMV, IMHO, just my 2 cents and all that jazz.

Bosso

I live in a solid, very solid, concrete apartment. I haven't measured my Empire yet with REW but it is definitely hitting below 20Hz in my room. On the sub 20 stuff, it almost takes your breath away, because of the pressure, like the air pressure around you drops for a short time. Kind of like swimming to the bottom of the deep end in the pool.

I have a glass door framed in wood which closes off the family room and I swear, even at -15Db levels the glass flexes so much it looks like it is going to pop out on the subsonic stuff!

I guess the assumption is you want the pictures going 'DUT-DUT-DUT-DUT-DUT and "the floor to move". I just want good, EQ'ed, deep, non-muddled bass.

How do you know that without measuring it? 20hz has come to be the magical dip stick with LFE, but it's pretty damn low itself and can most certainly pressurize a room at the proper level. I doubt very seriously I could pick out 20hz vs 15hz without knowing it was changed (during a movie passage, not a sine wave). Though many would never admit to that.

Commendable.

Can you post your data?

Bosso

I concur...maybe if the room is size of a closet