Samsung D7000 & D8000 Settings/Calibration Thread - Page 54

He was correct when he said most tvs today do not require service menu calibration. Most calibration controls are in the user menu. With the Samsung the only reason he needed to enter the service menu was to activate the ISF modes. All calibration is then done iin the user menu. However the Samsungs have all the calibration controls needed by a calibrator for WB, Gamma and CMS(color).

You did not receive what is advertised on their site, you should demand your money back.

 

BestBuy_HDTV_Calibration.pdf 63.734375k . file

god man....this guy didn't do ANYTHING like is described in the PDF

Not a Thing.

is that accurate then?
what are the ISF modes?
CAL DAY and CAL NIGHT?

If they refuse to refund your money, file a complaint with BBB here. They are accredited so it will go to arbitration.

ZOYD, i have to tell you ...ve been using your calibrations for the past month...and Larry from RI...and your settings look so much better to me than what these guys did.

i see grey on the set with your settings and there is no red in them at all...
i look at a grey image with their settings...and i can plainly see a reddish tint to the image.

so if anything...it goes to show how much time and patience you've spent collecting and Calibrating to get those numbers

thanks for posting

yea they are in the city,on 57th street I'm going to go there tomorrow witht the paper work and tell them this is not what i was led to believe i was going to get from a calibration from Best Buy and Geek Squad.

i wanted an ISF certified calibrator to set up my tv....but if he was ISF certified, why didn't he leave me with a detailed list of what he did?
why didn't he adjust any other settings except the main settings (Color, Tint, Contrast and Brightness)?

he did put suction cup sensor on the tv, plugged it into a windows based PC...ran a program that i couldn't see that ran test patterns...but he was done in 25 mins...and i don't know man, never left the main menu...

cal day/night are picture modes that are locked and require SM activation. Once activated day or night mode can then be calibrated in the user menu. Once done the calibrator goes back into the SM and locks the settings so you or anyone playing with the remote cannot change the settings.

Just seeing this now Larry thanks.
I had geek squad over today.

I won't be recommending their services to anyone seeking a thorough calibration.

I've learned more about my set and achieved a radically more pleasing image from reading here over the past few months.
Thanks for always posting

The pictures look like the BB rep locked the ISF settings so when he went back to the user menu the Advanced features couldn't be accessed to even do a calibration.

Hi guys.
Thnx for a great thread, i have a samsung 59d7005dk and have a guestion.
Which calibration suits best för my tv Do you think? im new at this. Most of the thinks you all are talking about is real greek for my and would've appreciate the help.
Thnx.
Sorry my eng

Yea Buzzard

I entered the sm right after he left to see if he had taken any advantage of the 10 point white balance or at least the r g b y c m settings.
( I don't know the names off hand)
And everything was set to auto
10 point set to off
Digital and mpeg noise set to auto
Hdmi black level set to normal
White balance to warn 2

Black level set to dark (for some reason, I suspect 'cal night' sets that by default)

This basically confirmed his lazy work

I mentioned that as soon as he walked in he said

"Samsung plasma? These can't be calibrated sir, and if I do you won't see a difference . Do you still want me to bother?"

I was about to mention all the research I'd been doing here on avs
But I thought it would be pointless, like asking a 6 month old baby to speak.
Just awful man.

Samsungs are a calibrators dream. They have all the controls we desire and the end result is a very accurate calibration and picture. Your calibrator doesn't have a clue. Did you call them today?

Buzz you are correct as all the settings are greyed out.

I will start by apologizing if this issues has been addressed earlier in this thread but I scanned what I could and did not see the answer I was looking for. I recently purchased a new PN64D8000 and I am hoping that the collective knowledge in this forum can please help me as I have read all the wonderful reviews of this TV but based on the picture from the TV now hanging on my wall I just don't see what everyone is raving about. My problem is that the overall image brightness on this TV is about 20% darker than any other TV I have ever owned so the picture ends up looking dull and doesn't pop off the screen the way I had hoped it would. That overall brightness problem is also complicated by what I can only describe as a brightness throttle that keeps the picture at or below a fixed intensity. This throttle causes huge consistency problems as some scenes will look perfect and then and you see it kick in when the majority of screen has really light or white content and the TV keeps it from displaying a pure crisp white and instead it throttles it back so you get a muddy light grey. I have spent days researching, tweaking and adjusting every setting on the TV to get this problem and there is simply no calibration or setting I can find that will get it to go away. I don't know if I am about to return a TV that could great if it was simply fixed or if I am never going to be happy because this is a built in problem. Any help, advice or experience would be greatly appreciated.

What television did you previously come from having?

My experience with a BB "calibrated" TV is funny.

high def junkies dot com/ showthread.php?10971-BestBuy-Demonstrates-A-Full-Calibration-or-You-Gotta-Be-Kidding-Me

@sdgates Sounds like you are not used to plasmas, they all limit the peak white when the entire image exceeds a certain level. What are your settings? Did you try any from the 1st couple of posts in this thread?

Thanks to everyone for the responses - I appreciate the help.

I am upgrading from a Panasonic PT-50DL54J DLP digital projection TV and I have tried every calibration setting I could get my hands on.

I do own other plasma TV's (which are smaller if that matters) but I have never seen a problem that comes close to this. Just so I am sure I am being clear the problem I am having is that when I am watching TV and something like an Apple commercial comes on where 90%+ of the screen goes to pure white the TV is unable to display the commercial as white and dims it down suddenly to a really washed out grey (I'm a creative director and designer so it's like a black at 20-30% opacity) and like I said I have never seen anything this drastic on any of my other TV's.

Bad color accuracy drives me wild but I am having a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that my 7 year old TV has such a drastically better picture quality than this new TV. If this is simply something I am not going to be able to escape in any plasma TV do LCD or LED displays suffer from the same problems?

Maybe you're experiencing the fluctuating brightness issue that some of us are, where it dims and brightens based on the on-screen content.

Donnymac51 I did t call no
They called me and left a message to see if "I was satisfied with the recent work that u had ordered from the geek squad"

I've been pretty busy at work and spare time been looking up affordable calibration tools to begin doing this on my own.

From suggestions posted by Larry and zoyd
I'm thinking "ColorMunki" looks like the most affordable.
I would like to use this with the "Calman" software

Can anyone suggest a specific "ColorMunki" model I should be shooting for that will work with the "Calman" software?

The one I'm seeing is called
"X-Rite ColorMunki Photo Spectrophotometer"
amazon offers a bundle package


CalMAN Home, Enhanced ColorMunki Bundle

Is this correct for calibrating the Samsung PN59D7000 ?

To Larry and Zoyd:
Hi guys
So I have been hunting for the the right equipment
Seems like ColorMunki is looking to be most affordable for me
And I would really like to use the calman software

I'm seeing a few things on amazon
These ColorMunki devices are saying they check photos and computer displays

Is there a specific reason on of these wouldn't work in the Samsung plasma pn59d7000?

From suggestions posted by Larry and zoyd
I'm thinking "ColorMunki" looks like the most affordable.
I would like to use this with the "Calman" software

Can anyone suggest a specific "ColorMunki" model I should be shooting for that will work with the "Calman" software?

The one I'm seeing is called
"X-Rite ColorMunki Photo Spectrophotometer"
amazon offers a few different devices with changes in the names

And a bundle package

"CalMAN Home, Enhanced ColorMunki Bundle "

Is this correct for calibrating the Samsung PN59D7000 ?

The bundle runs approx 600 for sensor and software

Im using an iPhone and am having an issue posting the links.

I'm also working off a Mac at home, that's what I'd be using for calibration.

Any help is as always much appreciated

Thanks guys.

I am only going to comment on the hardware/software that I know, there are other solutions but I know these work.

Low cost hardware with good (not great) accuracy will get you 95% of the way there:

i1 display 2

Great accuracy can be obtained with this:

i1 pro

Both can be used with HCFR (free), this software requires learning calibration flow from the ground up but the price can't be beat (and you'll learn faster this way). The software is available for PC only but it might run in vbox or similar.

Wes,

Like zoyd, I also use the i1 Display 2 (LT) and i1 Pro combination. I use them together (the LT profiled to the Pro) to get the best of both and I use them separately. I expect though that the cost of both units -- about $1000 -- is higher than what you want to spend.

I use the free HCFR software.

I have read some very enthusiastic reviews about the new i1 Display 3. This unit won't work with HCFR though. Maybe someone that uses the Display 3 will chime in. Buzz, isn't that what you use?

Larry

Sorry to quote myself but I have some follow-up information of interest for this thread. The main board actually failed twice, the original problem and then right after it was replaced it failed again but the tech thought the 2nd failure was the power board. So now I have a new power board and a new main board. Since the tech did not perform an ADC calibration I checked the values on the new board and they are identical to the original board, so the main boards appear to be "one size fits all" and are not independently calibrated at the factory. So I repeated my previous ADC calibration and set all controls to the last values I had been using. The color accuracy was not too far off but gray scale had very large errors especially below 50% stimulus. Gamma also behaves slightly differently.

Anyway, I've dialed things in again and the set looks as gorgeous as ever, but if I were to update my settings in the 2nd post they would look quite different for the 2-point and 10-point WB.

Ok all.

Having a new problem with 3D.

Right before the Disney intro in Tron and after that same intro, the D8000 flashes the picture all the way on and then off like 4-5 times in a moment or two. It's as if the HDMI handshake is broken and reconnected repeatedly.

Now I have seen Tron 3D well over 15 tomes but never experienced this glitch before.

No new settings on the TV, Oppo 93 or the AVR.

What is going on here, can someone speak to this?

Zoyd, TiVo, Larry?

Anyone, please?

Got it
Well look
Larry and zoyd
You guys rock.

Thank you.

I'll keep on hunting
The 1000 bucks is a trifle bit more than I want to spend yea.
I very new to this all.

I'll be back
My goal is to purchase soon and start learning over Xmas

This is awesome advice.
Checking out links now. thanks man

Thank Larry
Seems to me that some people pay calibrators
And some people just calibrate themselves.

I can't wait to start doing this I'm so pumped.

Thanks again

I use the non Pro version of the D3 and always use an i1Pro to profile it.


Your CalMAN/Colormunki combo idea is good as the meter is accurate and CalMAN works well. You need to know that even though CalMAN is menu driven there is still quite a long learning curve. Start right here.

The i1Pro is a little more expensive but can be used with most calibration software.

You might want to look at ChromaPure combined with the Display 3 Pro. It will be accurate enough for a variety of displays, is fast, measures deep black, and doesn't need dark readings every 10 minutes.

If you haven't gotten your money back from BB yet, do it. Your TV was NOT calibrated.

Yea buzz totally was not.
I'll call them back today.
Thanks for that link.
I've wanted to learn how to do this for years,

As I look at the Calman software I also realize it is not Mac friendly and I don't currently have a pc at home.

I imagine i would need Parallels pc or boot camp to run windows then could run these sortwares.


Question
You've all mentioned (Larry yourself and Zoyd) profiling

Am I wrong in thinking I will need a meter and software ?

Will I need 2 meters and software?

it was explained to me earlier by Janos that one (spectro) meter was better for colors and another (I forget) was better for low light accuracy.

So would I not be able to complete a calibration with 1 meter and software?

Thanks again Buzz and everyone