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post #151 of 940
Simon Cowell was the winning mentor twice on the UK show-exactly the number of times Cheryl Cole won, despite not being a mentor the first four seasons.
post #152 of 940
Current schedule:
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Thursday, Oct. 13 (8:00-10:00 PM) Judges’ Homes, Part 1 (extended to 2 hours)
Sunday, Oct. 16 (8:00-10:00 PM) Judges’ Homes, Part 2 (extended to 2 hours)
Tuesday, Oct. 18 (8:00-10:00 PM) Judges’ Homes, Part 3 (Special Tuesday Airing) (extended to 2 hours)
Tuesday, Oct. 25 (8:00-10:30 PM) Finalists Revealed (Special Tuesday Airing) (2 1/2 hours)

I guess they don't fear audience burnout.
post #153 of 940
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I guess they don't fear audience burnout.

Fox is treating this show like an established rating cash cow. They're taking it for granted before it has actually done anything, and they are probably going to pay for it with mediocre ratings and no growth this season.
post #154 of 940
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He is insuring a loss by taking the girls. It's that simple. It doesn't matter how good the girls are. It doesn't. Recent history has shown us that a guy always wins. Simon could have 4 of the last 5 remaining, and a girl still wouldn't be favored.

Fortunately the way eliminations are handled, they can easily keep the best on the show a lot longer than Idol does.
post #155 of 940
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I guess they don't fear audience burnout.

I don't get it. Is the show intended to run past Christmas? In the UK they finish up in early December, but they start in August. The only way the US version ends before Christmas now is if they do mass eliminations and that will just kill the show. As for ratings, last night's Judge's Houses show was down in the ratings from the previous week, but still won the night for FOX. Not an encouraging sing, especially given that the numbers are only half of what Simon initially said were expected.
post #156 of 940
For some reason my TiVo didn't record last night's episode as part of the Season Pass. My guess is they will promote the heck out of it once it goes live and has a steady schedule they can build on. Also, by then the dust will settle around the new series and people will decide if they are in or out. Elimination wise perhaps one from each group a week? After two weeks you would cut the field in half. After three you are down to your final four? Or is the voting not group related?
post #157 of 940
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For some reason my TiVo didn't record last night's episode as part of the Season Pass. My guess is they will promote the heck out of it once it goes live and has a steady schedule they can build on. Also, by then the dust will settle around the new series and people will decide if they are in or out. Elimination wise perhaps one from each group a week? After two weeks you would cut the field in half. After three you are down to your final four? Or is the voting not group related?

On the UK show, if I remember correctly, each group has 4 then each judge chooses a wildcard. And on week 1 they remove a person from each team (this year in the UK the judges had to pick who left after the first performance instead of the audience).

My Directv DVR also chose not to record it, but I caught that 5 minutes in. I think it showed up in Tivo and other DVRs as a repeat of the previous night's show, which never aired.
post #158 of 940
Do Simon and friends get some tax benefit for having the auditions at their fabulous mansions? Because o/w it's not very compelling tv.
post #159 of 940
I find it odd these multi-millionaires can't spend $100 to have someone come out and spray their roofs to get rid of their algae build up causing those ugly black streaks on the shingles.
post #160 of 940
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Do Simon and friends get some tax benefit for having the auditions at their fabulous mansions? Because o/w it's not very compelling tv.

I'd like to know how Nicole Scherzinger can afford that house. Where have her millions come from? She didn't actually write or produce that Pussycat Dolls album. The second Pussycat Dolls album bombed, along with her solo album.
post #161 of 940
In the UK version, it was discovered that some of the mentors' homes were actually just rented for the show. I assume they did that here too.
post #162 of 940
Maybe Lewis Hamilton owns it?
post #163 of 940
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In the UK version, it was discovered that some of the mentors' homes were actually just rented for the show. I assume they did that here too.

That kinda makes sense .. after all, we would not want stalkers invading their REAL homes ..
post #164 of 940
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I find it odd these multi-millionaires can't spend $100 to have someone come out and spray their roofs to get rid of their algae build up causing those ugly black streaks on the shingles.

Most multi-millionaires don't even know how roofs work.
post #165 of 940
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I'm guessing Fox and Simon Cowell are rooting for the Rangers to win tonight, which will ensure X Factor airs Sunday night instead of another baseball game.

People commented on the portion of the bootcamp show where they had everyone dancing and moving around. Well it's for a reason. Unlike Idol, many performances are actual performances complete with band, backup singers, props etc. Here's an example of the quality I hope we get to see on the US version. This was from the UK show last night.

post #166 of 940
I see the 30 and over crowd as the strongest group and I'am afraid Nicole will screw the pooch on this one and cut people that are deemed worthy due to her lack of talent evaluation..
post #167 of 940
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I see the 30 and over crowd as the strongest group and I'am afraid Nicole will screw the pooch on this one and cut people that are deemed worthy due to her lack of talent evaluation..

I'd keep the burrito guy, the 59 year old, and the onetime Disney girl.
post #168 of 940
One positive thing about the last couple of shows-there seems to be a little more variety in the songs than what we are used to from Idol. "No Surprises" didn't even chart in this country.
post #169 of 940
Crap, I missed the first 20 minutes, kept reminding myself to tape it and then I finally did, but since my cable still had baseball listed for 3 hours, when I went to record it conflicted with a bunch of other recordings, which when rescheduled conflicted with even more recordings, took forever to get it straightened out. Hope I didn't miss much in the first 20 (first act we saw was the heavy set curly haired guy that makes burritos).
post #170 of 940
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Originally Posted by WilliamR View Post

Crap, I missed the first 20 minutes, kept reminding myself to tape it and then I finally did, but since my cable still had baseball listed for 3 hours, when I went to record it conflicted with a bunch of other recordings, which when rescheduled conflicted with even more recordings, took forever to get it straightened out. Hope I didn't miss much in the first 20 (first act we saw was the heavy set curly haired guy that makes burritos).

The performances were ridiculous. The sound was so studio massaged (and probably done on multiple takes in a recording room) that there was no way to actually know what the judges heard. Not to mention the background singers. ??? About the only thing I could really take from this was that the ones who didn't sound very good must have really stunk it up in the actual "live outside" setting.

That group of 10 actually sounded quite good-but again, I can't imagine that they were anywhere near that level in outdoor setting---way, way too polished to have only practiced together for two days.

To me this was as bad as using auto-tune. I don't mind as much a night where studio recordings are used--as long as the judging is based on those recordings, not on a live outdoor performance that we weren't able to hear.
post #171 of 940
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If you missed any of the performances, they're all on the X Factor USA's youtube site.

More pre-recorded garbage. Sure, it sounds good, but I think most of us want to hear what they sound like actually singing live. There's 3 or 4 obvious gimmick singers in the pack. I'm hoping the show goes the opposite direction of Idol and sends these 4 home.

My favorites: 60 year old guy from Seattle. Chris Rene, the female rugby player, Melanie Amaro, Rachel Crow, and I'm now partial to the woman that sang No Surprises simply because of the song.

post #172 of 940
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One positive thing about the last couple of shows-there seems to be a little more variety in the songs than what we are used to from Idol. "No Surprises" didn't even chart in this country.

Yep - one thing that can be said for The X Factor is that they don't fall back on obvious and well known tracks all the time and mix it up a bit. It's also good for earlier versions of songs, as they often start doing good business on iTunes when they've been covered on such a popular show.

The US show is being broadcast over here as well, allongside the UK version, and a few people in the music biz this side of the pond have detected a similarity in the choice of both song and VT music, which suggests quite a UK-influence on the US show (moreso than many of the other versions that are already running globally)
post #173 of 940
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In the UK version, it was discovered that some of the mentors' homes were actually just rented for the show. I assume they did that here too.

Yep - I think they are quite careful never to specify that they are owned by the mentor these days.
post #174 of 940
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Originally Posted by Jarod M View Post

Fox is treating this show like an established rating cash cow. They're taking it for granted before it has actually done anything, and they are probably going to pay for it with mediocre ratings and no growth this season.

Interesting ratings weekend in the UK. The X Factor has been a weekend ratings juggernaut for ITV for years. The BBC and ITV are quite careful to ensure that Strictly Come Dancing (the original "Dancing with the Stars" which is a BBC developed format) and The X Factor (which airs on ITV and is a Syco/Sony format) aren't totally head to head.

In recent years X Factor has been significantly ahead of Strictly, and had amazing figures. However this year they've lost three of the four judges (Simon has moved to the US version - this is our first year without him) and the show is losing millions week-on-week.

Strictly and X Factor overlapped a bit this Saturday - and Strictly had higher ratings. Maybe the tide is turning a bit (and the X Factor is beginning to sound cliched in some of the judges comments being "comments by numbers") - or it may be a blip. Strictly has had a bit of a reboot (new set, and some very good bookings) and it's good to see it do well.
post #175 of 940
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Yep - I think they are quite careful never to specify that they are owned by the mentor these days.

In the one house the kitchen cabinets were completely bare... I guess they eat out every night.
post #176 of 940
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Originally Posted by sneals2000 View Post

Interesting ratings weekend in the UK. The X Factor has been a weekend ratings juggernaut for ITV for years. The BBC and ITV are quite careful to ensure that Strictly Come Dancing (the original "Dancing with the Stars" which is a BBC developed format) and The X Factor (which airs on ITV and is a Syco/Sony format) aren't totally head to head.

In recent years X Factor has been significantly ahead of Strictly, and had amazing figures. However this year they've lost three of the four judges (Simon has moved to the US version - this is our first year without him) and the show is losing millions week-on-week.

Strictly and X Factor overlapped a bit this Saturday - and Strictly had higher ratings. Maybe the tide is turning a bit (and the X Factor is beginning to sound cliched in some of the judges comments being "comments by numbers") - or it may be a blip. Strictly has had a bit of a reboot (new set, and some very good bookings) and it's good to see it do well.

As someone that's watched the past two seasons of X Factor UK, I gotta say I'm disappointed with this years show so far. I quite literally don't like any of the 4 judges. The past two years I simply didn't care for Louie, but he was easy to ignore, but this year blechhhhh. Also not a fan of the "talent" they chose. I despise Katie, who's video I linked above, but I think she has a good voice and stage presence, but your countrymen and women will never let her win, which is another thing I hate about the UK version - too much damn drama. You rarely (I actually cant remember it once) if ever hear of a current American Idol contestant getting death threats or being bullied in the press, but it appears to be commonplace in the UK.

Saw a story the other day that said Simon called up the producers and judges of the UK show and reamed them out over the show's content and lackluster stage presentations. I'm sure he's not a fan of the fact that his show has dropped millions of viewers in the UK in addition to the US version not coming remotely close to meeting his stated expectations. Instead X Factor is doing respectable numbers, but they're in line with The Voice and not with Idol. I have no idea what the plan is for the US version though. We're not getting to the live portion for another two weeks.
post #177 of 940
I got the impression some of the mentor's "homes" we're rentals. Paula's for instance had no dishes or food in the cupboards and fake fruit set out everywhere. I agree that Nicole would not be able to afford a house like that from Pussycat money.
post #178 of 940
So who are the 4 girls?
1. Melanie Amaro-Simon's reaction meant that she is a lock. She has a better voice than most of the Idol winners.
2. Drew Ryniewicz-Not the biggest voice, but she has incredible control over it considering her age. Also can express emotion.
Those are the two locks. Not sure after that-
3. Rachel Crow-Again, Simon's reaction makes her an easy pick.
4. Jazzlyn Little-I really don't know how she could be left out.


Watching the group of 10 performance again, I realized that it was better than ANY Idol group performance-that I remember anyway. Most of them I've stricken from my memory.
post #179 of 940
The girl's cut will be the toughest. I would take five or six of the girls and take less from the groups or over 30s. I surprised the Disney Channel 10 kid group was not broken up into smaller teams. Those kids should immediately get a show on Disney Channel if they do not make the cut.
post #180 of 940
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I still don't get how it all works. Next week has only one show listed and it's called Wildcard week. So I guess there's a chance they're adding 4 more people/groups next week or maybe it's just 1 wildcard. No idea. All I know is that Fox's handling of this show isn't conducive to making it a hit.
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