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post #751 of 940
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Britney will get you big numbers in week 1 and maybe 2. If she's awful, you're toast. If she's great you're golden.
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Britney will get you big numbers in week 1 and maybe 2. If she's awful, you're toast. If she's great you're golden.

How did Howard Stern do with that talent show? From what I heard it was a non-event. Just like Britney will be... the show is bigger than the mentors and every mentor has plus and minuses with the net affect being close to nil.
post #753 of 940
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Britney will get you big numbers in week 1 and maybe 2. If she's awful, you're toast. If she's great you're golden.

Maybe .. but I'd venture to guess that any week 1/ 2 bump will be out of folks curiosity more than anything else ..

Now, if she would shave her head on air



or maybe

post #754 of 940
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How did Howard Stern do with that talent show? From what I heard it was a non-event. Just like Britney will be... the show is bigger than the mentors and every mentor has plus and minuses with the net affect being close to nil.

If they're relying on the show to be the star, they're dead already. They turned off the viewing public with last year's travesty. Their only hope is an overhaul. Was an even bigger disaster in the UK.
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They turned off the viewing public with last year's travesty

How so? Its ratings were virtually the same as this year's The Voice, no? More total... a little less youngsters.
post #756 of 940
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How so? Its ratings were virtually the same as this year's The Voice, no? More total... a little less youngsters.

Huge dropoff of the demo they were going for as the season went on and more and more people got sick of the ugliness. It wasnt just the ratings dropping like The Voice, but it was accompanied by a lot of reviews/articles about how atrocious the show was whereas the voice lost older viewers but not the younger demo, and the quality of the show wasnt questioned. And ultimately that's what matters most - quality. The X Factor is something I looked forward to and ended up despising it. Not because of the format, but because of the production and "talent".
post #757 of 940
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The X Factor is something I looked forward to and ended up despising it.

I understand. Perhaps you should add it to your ignore list. I just updated mine.
post #758 of 940

Anyone see the promo (yet) for this season featuring Britney Spears? She made Simon cringe with her nasty comments. Based on the few seconds I saw her likability factor is negative (completely disregarding her comments)... knowing zero about her I thought she would at least come across with a favorable presence. Perhaps it wasn't a true reflection of the season... although at this point it might be fun guessing oh how long before Paula is back . :)

post #759 of 940
Is this the promo that you are speaking of?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7W9x52h7-0

I find it interesting that last season the promos featured mostly the judges stepping off private jets in slow motion, but this one looks more like a local talent show from a depressed part of town. Another strange contrast is L.A. Reid dressed flawlessly, while Simon appears to be just wearing an undershirt and jeans.
post #760 of 940
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Is this the promo that you are speaking of?

 

No. It was a TV spot during So You Think You Can Dance which featured Britney. It showed her schooling a contestant or two with the other judges looking on rather sheepishly. Here it is...

 


Edited by Charles R - 7/19/12 at 11:56am
post #761 of 940
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Based on the early promos, it looks like the show's going to be just as loud and ugly as last season. Hopefully the talent is high enough to ignore the rest. They're really pushing the "Brit is mean" angle hard. Is that what people were longing for? More meanness from this show?
post #762 of 940
X Factor is on-the-air. Hope the audio is better this year.
post #763 of 940

Someone should start a season two thread... a nice clean start before all the bickering begins. The endless posts about Simon... oh I guess it would just be a repeat anyways. :)

post #764 of 940
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X Factor is on-the-air. Hope the audio is better this year.

It isn't. Same weird mixing going on. It's also the same mean garbage as last year. Within the first half hour they edited it in such a way that two young white girls were mean to a single black mother, and anyone with any knowledge of the crappy way Simon produces shows knew that the black singer was getting through and the white singer was going to bomb. And what do you know...that's what happened. Sad thing being the black singer was almost as terrible as the white singer. The two new judges are just airheaded dunces so far. I thought Simon would be smarter than this and learn from everything that caused the first season to bomb, but clearly the only issue he thought the show had were two bad judges.
post #765 of 940

I think this review pretty much nailed the premiere...

 

http://www.toofab.com/2012/09/12/the-x-factor-britney-spears-simon-cowell-demi-lovato/

 

The highlight was...

 

You will cry ... and so does Simon

The two-hour premiere leads up to one very emotional audition from a former bullying victim. Through tears, the young woman praises Demi for being such a vocal anti-bullying advocate ... while revealing the two have similar "Stay Strong" tattoos. 

And if that's not moving enough, her version of Jessie J's "Who You Are" is one of the most heartfelt auditions we've ever seen. It's done with so much feeling, Demi gives the girl a hug at the end ... and Simon admits he even had tears in his eyes watching it.

post #766 of 940
What is wrong with SImon, wow. Why is he eating non stop? They cut to him, someone says, Simon what do you think, and he first pops something in his mouth to eat and THEN starts talking. Lame, what an idiot.
post #767 of 940
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What is wrong with SImon, wow.

 

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Simon is a pig. He spent every minute trying to stare down Paula's shirt. It was so obvious, you could see his eyes moving down. The guy is pathetic. His comparisons are lame. He should just judge, not spend time trying to come up with how it compares to someone singing after lunch or whatever stupid thing he said. Pretty pathetic.

 

I thought you already knew based on your endless posts about him. Such as this one of thirty-four if the site's search works... :)

post #768 of 940
Based on the ratings for the first episode, I would say that Britney Spears was a colossal waste of money.
post #769 of 940
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Based on the ratings for the first episode, I would say that Britney Spears was a colossal waste of money.

Yep. Instead of fixing the show's many glaring problems, he just made them worse. It's good to see that at least in week 1 that failed miserably for him. Could have just kept paying Paula a paltry 1 million a season and gotten these ratings.
post #770 of 940
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Yep. Instead of fixing the show's many glaring problems, he just made them worse. It's good to see that at least in week 1 that failed miserably for him. Could have just kept paying Paula a paltry 1 million a season and gotten these ratings.
I've been saying it about all of these reality shows-they shouldn't be throwing all of that money at "big names" to fill the judges chairs, because they aren't worth it. In most cases they are a detriment to the quality of the show, which will further decrease the audience over the long term.
post #771 of 940
The 13-year-old girl at the end of tonight's show was VERY good.
post #772 of 940
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The 13-year-old girl at the end of tonight's show was VERY good.

She'll be even better when she gets kicked off and freaks out on stage for all to see.
post #773 of 940
Thought I would give X another try this year. Watched the first contestant's song on the second night. It was some 16 year old rapster doodling his own mess to an apparently enraptured pack of judges, the first of whom announces, "That is just what this show is looking for," passes the baton to a ragged out Britony who promptly spouts a witless fawning nothing, goes to some equally witless twit before i can hit the series erase button, never to return. What drudge.

I think we made it two contestants last year before retching. So, by my standards the show is twice as bad this year. At least Paula was not "barf quality."
Edited by Distorted - 9/13/12 at 9:17pm
post #774 of 940
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The 13-year-old girl at the end of tonight's show was VERY good.

Just a follow up - many websites are saying she's a "plant" because of her extensive experience from Broadway, national touring productions, television, and roles in 2 feature movies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carly_Rose_Sonenclar
post #775 of 940
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Just a follow up - many websites are saying she's a "plant" because of her extensive experience from Broadway, national touring productions, television, and roles in 2 feature movies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carly_Rose_Sonenclar
Please. It's one thing to already have made an attempt at a pop career, like many Idol contestants who had already signed with labels and released failed pop albums, or even worse, already appeared on a singing competition. She doesn't fit that description. Sure, she is in show business and has profited from her performing ability, but that doesn't mean much, especially at her young age. And I doubt she is independently wealthy from that career, and that is where the 5 million dollars comes into play.
post #776 of 940
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I wouldnt put anything by a show that would hire actors to create drama around contestants.
post #777 of 940
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Originally Posted by Jarod M View Post

Please. It's one thing to already have made an attempt at a pop career, like many Idol contestants who had already signed with labels and released failed pop albums, or even worse, already appeared on a singing competition. She doesn't fit that description. Sure, she is in show business and has profited from her performing ability, but that doesn't mean much, especially at her young age. And I doubt she is independently wealthy from that career, and that is where the 5 million dollars comes into play.

I never said that she is independently wealthy and couldn't use 5 million dollars. My point was that she was so much better than the other contestants because she is a seasoned professional against a bunch of amateurs. It's like having an Olympic athlete show up at your local 10k "fun run" and happen to beat all the other runners. Simon Cowell announced that he would be letting professionals in the competition this season, but it is now clear that they won't be identifying to the home audience who is an amateur and who isn't. In her nearly 5 minute backstory segment they never mentioned any of her previous professional work, instead, walked her out on stage in jean shorts and a plain t-shirt like some random unknown teenager. It was all very calculated.
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Originally Posted by BUDDYTV 
And there's an interesting new twist to this season's auditions: now artists with "pre-existing management contracts" can try out for the show. In other words, you can still try your luck on The X Factor even if you already have a manager at the moment, as opposed to American Idol, where hopefuls should not have a current management or record deal before trying out.
http://www.buddytv.com/articles/the-x-factor/x-factor-season-2-audition-dat-44037.aspx
post #778 of 940
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Tried to watch last night's episode but it was just more of the same hot garbage that the first night was. Just awful TV. Deleted. It's good to see reviewers like the one at Variety calling Simon out for this joke of a show.
post #779 of 940
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I never said that she is independently wealthy and couldn't use 5 million dollars. My point was that she was so much better than the other contestants because she is a seasoned professional against a bunch of amateurs.

 

I didn't catch the ongoing debate as I have blocked (most of) the hyperbolers. However, clearly they want talent and those with a little (a lot?) of seasoning should be welcomed. Heck, I'd like to see Diana Krall on the show along with a few others. :) Although she might be better suited for The Voice's blind auditions as for me she is a killer singer with so-so stage presence.

 

The biggest difference I have noticed this year is that they are really playing to the younger demographics. I guess Demi helps accordingly and their best moment (to date) has centered around her. I don't mind the backstage experience and even the hyped drama (to a degree). Although, the editing is beyond obvious and over done to the point there isn't any set up or payoff. It just comes across as scripted.

 

Going in I knew zero about Britney and Demi and I couldn't name one of their songs. I think Demi is a catch, Britney so-so. Demi has an openness that plays well and her youth comes across as an advantage far more often than not. Even Simon appears to care enough to be civil around her... which is quite the accomplishment.


Edited by Charles R - 9/14/12 at 11:20am
post #780 of 940
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Originally Posted by Shedrock View Post

I never said that she is independently wealthy and couldn't use 5 million dollars. My point was that she was so much better than the other contestants because she is a seasoned professional against a bunch of amateurs. It's like having an Olympic athlete show up at your local 10k "fun run" and happen to beat all the other runners. Simon Cowell announced that he would be letting professionals in the competition this season, but it is now clear that they won't be identifying to the home audience who is an amateur and who isn't. In her nearly 5 minute backstory segment they never mentioned any of her previous professional work, instead, walked her out on stage in jean shorts and a plain t-shirt like some random unknown teenager. It was all very calculated.
http://www.buddytv.com/articles/the-x-factor/x-factor-season-2-audition-dat-44037.aspx
I don't remember the whole amateur/professional distinction for X Factor during its first season. Are you saying they rejected great singers in the first season because they were so-called "seasoned professionals?" Chris Rene had already put out two albums before X Factor. Does that qualify him as a "seasoned professional?" Wasn't Stacy Francis a "seasoned professional?" What about Christa Collins?
Edited by Jarod M - 9/14/12 at 12:29pm
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