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post #901 of 940
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

I think last night's edition (semi-finals) was done rather nicely. I enjoy the diversity of the artists. Even if they aren't my cup of tea the variety makes it a little more enjoyable. For the most part I thought everyone stepped it up especially the groups. More so than I would have guessed. Still burned out on all of the singing shows but this was watchable.
Another enjoyable thing is that the voters don't seem to be following trends of the other shows, or what the producers seem to want. Kicking off Emblem 3 before the finals was a big kick in the balls to Simon Cowell.
post #902 of 940
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Originally Posted by fhall1 View Post

Maybe the show won't get renewed and he won't have to worry about it.

It was picked up months ago and the auditions for the next season are about to begin. Hence he has to go now. I'm wondering if his contract wasn't picked up as he didn't fit into the show (very well). Although at times I think his diversity helped.
post #903 of 940
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Originally Posted by Jarod M View Post

Losing Cee Lo Green is a lot bigger loss than LA Reid, who was ok but too abrasive in making his points.

I don't think losing anyone from X Factor helps or hurts it. It's just an awful show regardless. The problem isn't the people, it's the production and direction. LA Reid, Britney, and Demi have all been awful though, which I'm sure isn't helping them with ratings.
post #904 of 940
One of the groups name is Emblem 3? That's horrendous. Did Simon think of that? He's completely lost it.
post #905 of 940
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Originally Posted by squeakybirnbaum View Post

One of the groups name is Emblem 3? That's horrendous. Did Simon think of that? He's completely lost it.
What's wrong with the name? I've heard a lot worse.
post #906 of 940
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Originally Posted by squeakybirnbaum View Post

One of the groups name is Emblem 3? That's horrendous. Did Simon think of that? He's completely lost it.

Everyone said that when he created "One Direction" in the UK series a year or two back (and they didn't win...) Doesn't seem to have done them much harm...
post #907 of 940
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Originally Posted by sneals2000 View Post

Everyone said that when he created "One Direction" in the UK series a year or two back (and they didn't win...) Doesn't seem to have done them much harm...
When "Emblem 3" hits it big I'll take it back.
post #908 of 940
If they make it big or not I doubt the name will have almost nothing to do with it.
post #909 of 940
5th Harmony had the most shocking performance of the show so far, with that great version of "Anything Could Happen." I had always thought that the group would disband as soon as the show was over, with maybe one or two of them being signed or maybe tryout next year as individuals. Well, now I could definitely see this group being marketed. That song could be a hit. It was a hit in the UK, in an overly processed version without much singing in evidence-far inferior to 5th Harmony's version, which has an arrangement that sounds a lot like classic Annie Lennox.
post #910 of 940
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From the X Factor website:

...is the ultimate test to prove they have the vocal ability, charisma and stage presence it takes to become a global superstar or breakout music act and win a $5 million recording contract with Syco/Sony Music.

I'm sure that Simon is very happy with his new 37 year old, married, country singing family man. If that doesn't scream, "global superstar or breakout music act", I don't know what does! biggrin.gif

First Season of X Factor USA:

The $5 million will be paid directly to the winner in five annual installments of $1 million. Cowell said in a conference call with reporters on February 7, 2011: "I think it should be a life-changing prize and just to be clear, this isn't a dressed-up $5 million, this is a guaranteed $5 million payable to the winner. The recording, marketing, and video costs are completely separate to that. It will be paid over five years at $1 million a year."

Second Season of X Factor USA:

"...and win a $5 million recording contract with Syco/Sony Music." No mention of ANY money going to the winner, just that Syco/Sony will be paid 5 million for services.

http://www.thexfactorusa.com/about
post #911 of 940
Simon Cowell has confirmed he is dating Carmen Electra.

That is not a couple I can see, but good for him, Carmen is still stunningly hot.
post #912 of 940
A little disappointed that Carly didn't win. Tate is a nice guy, and it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy and all, but he's still no Blake Shelton and I won't be buying his record. Although the US has plenty of country fans to compensate.

Simon can probably sign Carly for cheaper now. wink.gif
post #913 of 940
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Originally Posted by psgcdn View Post

A little disappointed that Carly didn't win. Tate is a nice guy, and it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy and all, but he's still no Blake Shelton and I won't be buying his record. Although the US has plenty of country fans to compensate.
Simon can probably sign Carly for cheaper now. wink.gif
Yes, although I'm a huge country music fan, Carly definitely should have won. Her young age probably worked against her.
post #914 of 940
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Originally Posted by Shedrock View Post


I'm sure that Simon is very happy with his new 37 year old, married, country singing family man.

 

 

Cowell said Stevens went all out in Wednesday's finale performance show, helping his chances. "He took risks. He didn't do safe cover versions. He did songs which were proper country songs and that's why I think people bought into him."

He said the show looked for more country singers this year.

"We went out of our way to go into regions to encourage country singers this year, because I kept reading about people saying I don't like country music. I don't understand it that much because I'm a Brit, but I do like it and I understand how commercial it is," he said. "So, I'm very happy that a country artist won the show and I think we're going to now attract more country artists for next year."

post #915 of 940
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Hahaha, what a trainwreck. I love that a big, fat, old, balding unmarketable country guy won. Good luck with that, Simon. Entertainment Weekly wrote a scathing review of the season and finals night. I wonder if Simon will read it and then dismiss it like he did all the criticism from last year's awful showing. Get judges that can speak coherent English who also want to be there. Tell the crowd to shut the hell up unless they're cheering the end of a song or a particularly great note being hit, dump the two idiots hosting it, fire the production staff (all of them), lose the moronic fabricated backstage drama, and concentrate on the singing. This season had the absolute worst singing of any singing competition I've ever watched. Worse than early American Idol seasons.

Meanwhile the performance show was down nearly 20 percent in viewers from the first season, which itself was way below expectations, and over on NBC they put up their highest numbers ever for their finale. Hopefully that sends a message to Simon that his British way of doing things isn't working here. Retool the show and add a bit of class to it. X Factor's fake drama and bulls*** may play in the UK, but it clearly isn't working here. Which is odd since The Housewives shows do.

Numbers are in and the final results show was off 20 percent also from last year. What a bomb. And for the season lagged 35 percent behind the much superior The Voice from NBC. From the EW review of the season:
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The song-and-dance productions were as clunky and forgettable as ever, Britney’s faces got real old real fast, and Mario and Khlomeister still can’t even figure out which camera to gape at. Above all, the show is just devoid of any real character … Simon Cowell is the worst of them all — barely awake, looking insulted to even be spending his time like this. It’s his show, and he’s embarrassed, and he doesn’t care enough to inject any life into it. … with The X Factor, he’s just completely checked out, and the others have no choice but to copy him.

Edited by skyehill - 12/21/12 at 9:08am
post #916 of 940
If country fans can explain why Tate deserves to win anything, go right ahead. To me he was boring, repetitive, safe, with a good but nowhere near great singing voice. His on stage abilities were also lackluster, and it was only towards the end that he tried to be a little more mobile. And I don't know that he could have beaten any act in the top 5 if he had to go up against them directly, instead of having the votes split among multiple acts. The fact that Carly did win the vote two weeks is a good indicator that Tate's voting block wasn't insurmountable.

There is still a lot of money in country music sales. I think the strategy here was to find someone with a chance to take advantage of that, and also to increase their ratings in the red states. Obviously the ratings ploy didn't work, and it remains to be seen how popular Tate's music will be. I wouldn't be shocked if he does quite well for a couple of albums.

I'll be very surprised if they allow another country singer into the top 12.

Spears will not be back.
post #917 of 940
Jarod makes a good point that splitting the pop vote between Carly and H5 let Tate through to win. Had it gone another week, with two contestants remaining, Carly might have won.
post #918 of 940
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Originally Posted by psgcdn View Post

Jarod makes a good point that splitting the pop vote between Carly and H5 let Tate through to win. Had it gone another week, with two contestants remaining, Carly might have won.
The same goes for The Voice. Originally they were going to only have two people in the finals, and at the last second they changed it to a three person final. It doesn't take a lot of analysis to realize that this guaranteed the win for the girl, since the other two were male karaoke singers who specialized in songs two or 3 decades old.
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Originally Posted by Jarod M View Post

The same goes for The Voice. Originally they were going to only have two people in the finals, and at the last second they changed it to a three person final. It doesn't take a lot of analysis to realize that this guaranteed the win for the girl, since the other two were male karaoke singers who specialized in songs two or 3 decades old.

What guaranteed the win for the girl was that she was consistently getting more votes than everyone else in the contest. She won it. She wasn't handed it. She's also had more number 1 songs this year than most "real" artists have had this year. And now the compilation of all her songs from the season is top 10 at iTunes. Splitting the votes isn't why she won. Her voice is.
post #920 of 940
The X Factor has lost whatever credibility it had. Having a rather mediocre country bar singer win boggles the mind. I admit to being partial to Carly but I would not have been quite so disgusted had 5th Harmony won. At least they could have kept up the pretence of being a reality show with some vocal component. Am not a Voice viewer but I did watch their last couple of shows and at least they had contestants who could sing. Still not my cup of tea but it wasn't outrageous that Cassadee Pope won. What was impressive was the quality of many of the contestants who did not make the final 3. Didn't care for the coaches but I wasn't disgusted by the show. Moreover their limit of 10 votes per voting technique seemed like an attempt to right a crazy 40, 000, 000 votes and counting that the X Factor and AI keep pushing as though we are all fools. The X Factor has managed somehow to put me off country music, a genre I have loved my whole life. I hope young people continue to believe that fine tuning your musical abilities is still something that people value. If a musician as mediocre as Tate can be celebrated by the country then this says something, and I suspect it's not something I'd like to know. Disgusted... Oddly, the X Factor has managed to become meaningless to me. Other singing reality shows have annoyed me but never to the point of not wanting to watch them. The whole season was a circus. Loud, over the top, truly shallow and a celebration of untalent. They deserve to fade off the air.
post #921 of 940
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Originally Posted by Jarod M View Post

If country fans can explain why Tate deserves to win anything, go right ahead. To me he was boring, repetitive, safe, with a good but nowhere near great singing voice.

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I'll be very surprised if they allow another country singer into the top 12.
Spears will not be back.

I am a big country fan ( or at least I always have been). I take issue with your statement that Tate has a good singing voice. Hardly any range, shallow, no real uniqueness other than to mimic your run of the mill country singer. Truly a mediocre, at best, singer that one sees in a local bar or at weddings. If Tate is a good country singer then that whole genre is worthless.

I can't see why they wouldn't allow other country singers in the future to make their top 12. There were worse singers in the live competition, though not many.

It's mind boggling. I don't understand how they can't be embarrassed. I personally hope the show gets cancelled and Simon disappears off the air.

philip
Edited by pmcd - 12/21/12 at 10:58pm
post #922 of 940
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Originally Posted by psgcdn View Post

A little disappointed that Carly didn't win. Tate is a nice guy, and it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy and all, but he's still no Blake Shelton and I won't be buying his record. Although the US has plenty of country fans to compensate.
Simon can probably sign Carly for cheaper now. wink.gif

I would hope that Carly stays away from him. Tate winning made the show look foolish. Of course there were already many reasons why the show shouldn't even be on TV.

philip
Edited by pmcd - 12/21/12 at 10:59pm
post #923 of 940
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As many reviewers have pointed out, Simon has clearly checked out of his own show. It was a huge embarrassment for him to promise Idol ratings in year 1, and then delivered about half of that, but then he followed it up with a 2nd season that got demolished in the ratings by upstart The Voice. The hiring of Britney showed how desperate he was for higher ratings, but even that backfired on him and season 2 tanked harder than season 1. Ultimately what ruined it all was the lousy production, the horrendous judges, and the lackluster talent (the singers, the judges, and the hosts). If he has half a brain, Simon will hire all new directors and production staff for season 3, but I doubt he will. He clearly still thinks that the awful show style that works in England will work here. Americans simply dont give a sh** about the idiotic backstage drama and the fighting between coaches, whereas that makes the news and is celebrated in England.
post #924 of 940
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Originally Posted by pmcd View Post

I am a big country fan ( or at least I always have been). I take issue with your statement that Tate has a good singing voice. Hardly any range, shallow, no real uniqueness other than to mimic your run of the mill country singer. Truly a mediocre, at best, singer that one sees in a local bar or at weddings. If Tate is a good country singer then that whole genre is worthless.
I can't see why they wouldn't allow other country singers in the future to make their top 12. There were worse singers in the live competition, though not many.
It's mind boggling. I don't understand how they can't be embarrassed. I personally hope the show gets cancelled and Simon disappears off the air.
philip
Tough critic. When I said good, I meant that he could stay on key most of the time. I don't disagree with anything you said. I have a tough time being really critical just because it's not my type of music. But when Tate refused to hit that high note on Livin' on a Prayer, it made me wonder what his appeal was.

The show is coming back for at least one more season. I would suggest that they don't let Pepsi have so much influence this time.
post #925 of 940
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And another judge leaves. Britney has been apparently fired from the show. At some point Simon's going to have to be forced to come to grips with the fact that it's his fault the show is awful, and not just the lame judges he keeps hiring.
post #926 of 940
I never watch The Show but knew Spears would be a bust. She is washed up and given how the ratings dropped, no way were they going to bring her back for $15 million when they can get someone else much cheaper.
post #927 of 940
Surprisingly still enjoying the show and some of its changes although still irked by others things about its formula. Kelly is easy on the eyes.biggrin.gif
post #928 of 940
The Four Chair Challenge was a very entertaining way to get down to the singers who will be in the live show.
post #929 of 940
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Originally Posted by Viventis View Post

The Four Chair Challenge was a very entertaining way to get down to the singers who will be in the live show.

 

Almost (is) over the top reality show for me. You can easily see how they stack the deck to ensure suspense. There is a thread about this season but I guess it went the way of their ratings.

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