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post #11971 of 17929
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Originally Posted by OldSchoolMETAL View Post

BTW, finally got my Linksys Wifi Game Adapter hooked up to the AVR-2312ci and the Denon internet radio is awesome. It has most of my local station from the FM and AM bands but is missing my favorite WXRD X-Rock 103.9 with Alice Cooper and Bob and Tom. It's a smaller Valpo station so they probably don't have a feed.

One solution is to get Airfoil, which hijacks the Airplay function to send streaming audio from your computer to the AVR. I've been using it for the past six months to listen to my favorite jazz station in Moscow (101.ru "Romantika Jazz") and, although earlier releases were a bit glitchy, the latest version works great. It costs about $25 and is available for Windows or Mac. The great thing is that vTuner stations will come and go, but with Airfoil you can send pretty much any streaming audio source to your AVR.
post #11972 of 17929
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Originally Posted by chi_guy50 View Post

One solution is to get Airfoil, which hijacks the Airplay function to send streaming audio from your computer to the AVR. I've been using it for the past six months to listen to my favorite jazz station in Moscow (101.ru "Romantika Jazz") and, although earlier releases were a bit glitchy, the latest version works great. It costs about $25 and is available for Windows or Mac. The great thing is that vTuner stations will come and go, but with Airfoil you can send pretty much any streaming audio source to your AVR.

I doubt I'd ever stream from the PC. I just want the Receiver to have internet access for it's services and to play files on flashdrives or HDDs. I use flashdrives to take to different PCs and to use in our vehicles with Ford Sync (just love this feature, don't know how we ever lived without it!).

Since my Wireless Wifi "G" bridge adapter was about 9 years old, it took a while to get it to configure with the rest of the network. Changing protocols and the such. But everything works now pretty darn good. The quality of the stations seems to be pretty good bettering their FM transmission.
post #11973 of 17929
Does anyone know what the latest firmware upgrade does. I just upgraded last night on my AVR-2312ci.

It said it would reset all parameters but everything seems to still be in tact. Took a half hour with my 30Mbps internet speed.

I've yet to do an auto room correction/setup as it says loud tones will be used and we can't do that with the baby in the house.
post #11974 of 17929
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Originally Posted by DaverJ View Post

Thanks for mentioning that, I was looking at Roomie last night. Does Roomie play well with Denon's networking and setup features?

I just received delivery of a 2112ci and am very excited to set it up this afternoon.

Nice pet name, as long as he/she can read the manual, Roomie should be able to use the Denon just fine.
post #11975 of 17929
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Originally Posted by nirupesh View Post


@batpig i got it to work, thank you. What I didn't understand was that after assigning the optical to the sat/stb in addition to assigning the hdmi, i had to change the input mode to digital _after_ the fact. That did the trick, thank you!

This led me to a solve my issue as well. I was getting video/audio dropouts (on sat/cbl) when my htpc (on bd input) would wake up.

I, too have sat/cbl assigned to component/optical.

However, i did not realize until seeing this post by batpig, that i had to also change the input mode to digital. This led me to also realize that i should actually leave sat/cbl hdmi enabled, even though its not being used. I had it disabled altogether, or set to none.

Not sure why that is, but i don't care now that it works without dropouts.

Thank you very much!
post #11976 of 17929
Hi All, I'm new in this forum. Since 1 1/2 i have read it a lot of threads but i wasn't registered. Now i need help.

I just got a Denon Avr 1912, to replace a HK 1600. My speakers are:
Fronts: B&W 684
Sats and subwofer: The HKTS-20BQ from HK

The subwoofer is 8" and i have troubes with it. I don't consider myself a newbie configuring a receiver. I think i have learn the enough to do it. But im dissapointed and don't know what to do. The problem is that the sub does not produce "room filling" bass, instead it produces tight and when i up de sub volume thumping bass, but i don't feel it. I have ran audyssey i have moved the settings my self i have changed the position of the sub and it is the same. It is very evident with the next songs:

Hotel California - Eagles -Hell Frezzes over
Sirius - The Alan parsons project
Get Low - Lil Jon

When i had the HK connected the sub produces the nice filling room, but the 1912 just don't.

There is one user "elektrobank" that had the same problem. Does you guys can help me? im really dissaponted, i don't know if it is the size of the sub, because elektrobank had the same sub size as me.

Thank you
post #11977 of 17929
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Many new Denon (Audyssey) owners are used to thumping/pounding/overpowering bass which is not what the mixer intended. Rather what you're expierencing after running Audyssey is what the mixer intended. As long as your sub trim didn't get set to -12db after running Audyssey (if it did you need to lower the volume on the sub and rerun AUTO SETUP), then try to adjust to the "new" sound for a couple of weeks. After doing so, if you still want the sub a little hotter, then simply bump it up a few db using the remote control "CH Level" button.
post #11978 of 17929
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Originally Posted by OldSchoolMETAL View Post

Nice pet name, as long as he/she can read the manual, Roomie should be able to use the Denon just fine.

Roomie is a universal remote.
post #11979 of 17929
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

^^
Many new Denon (Audyssey) owners are used to thumping/pounding/overpowering bass which is not what the mixer intended. Rather what you're expierencing after running Audyssey is what the mixer intended. As long as your sub trim didn't get set to -12db after running Audyssey (if it did you need to lower the volume on the sub and rerun AUTO SETUP), then try to adjust to the "new" sound for a couple of weeks. After doing so, if you still want the sub a little hotter, then simply bump it up a few db using the remote control "CH Level" button.

I also also this: my sub was initially reported at -12db, so lowered it and reran the setup to get it around the -4db range.

I'm now listening to bass at "reference level", which is very different than what I'm used to.

jdsmoothie: I want to confirm I did something correctly. After I ran Audyssey setup, I saved my configuration and then exited auto setup and changed all the speakers to small and all crossovers to 80db. Is this correct?
post #11980 of 17929
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Yes, it's correct if you "raised" any crossovers that were set below 80hz up (eg. 40hz or 60hz) to 80hz, leaving that were set at 90hz or higher untouched. Plenty of more Audyssey questions answered in the FAQ linked in my sig.
post #11981 of 17929
Hey, I have an AVR-1912, I've finally gotten it hooked up to the internet, AirPlay from my iphone works great. The documentation then says something about "DLNA", which should let me stream audio from my laptop (or other devices attached to my home router). Is there a summary page or FAQ for this somewhere? Can my wife play songs from her Android phone? Can I just set it up somehow to stream the output from my laptop speakers through the amp in general?


thanks!
post #11982 of 17929
Just purchased the 2312 and so far I'm really impressed with the sound. I ran auto setup and audyssey and just wondering a few things

1: I was under the impression that I could pass through a hdmi signal through the receiver without having it on. Like a from a cable box to receiver to tv. If I cant no biggie I'll just run a optical cable
post #11983 of 17929
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Originally Posted by steeletool View Post

Just purchased the 2312 and so far I'm really impressed with the sound. I ran auto setup and audyssey and just wondering a few things

1: I was under the impression that I could pass through a hdmi signal through the receiver without having it on. Like a from a cable box to receiver to tv. If I cant no biggie I'll just run a optical cable

You can. Set Hdmi control to on and Standby Source to the input you want to pass.
post #11984 of 17929
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Originally Posted by cvswimmer View Post

Hi All, I'm new in this forum. Since 1 1/2 i have read it a lot of threads but i wasn't registered. Now i need help.

I just got a Denon Avr 1912, to replace a HK 1600. My speakers are:
Fronts: B&W 684
Sats and subwofer: The HKTS-20BQ from HK

The subwoofer is 8" and i have troubes with it. I don't consider myself a newbie configuring a receiver. I think i have learn the enough to do it. But im dissapointed and don't know what to do. The problem is that the sub does not produce "room filling" bass, instead it produces tight and when i up de sub volume thumping bass, but i don't feel it. I have ran audyssey i have moved the settings my self i have changed the position of the sub and it is the same. It is very evident with the next songs:

Hotel California - Eagles -Hell Frezzes over
Sirius - The Alan parsons project
Get Low - Lil Jon

When i had the HK connected the sub produces the nice filling room, but the 1912 just don't.

There is one user "elektrobank" that had the same problem. Does you guys can help me? im really dissaponted, i don't know if it is the size of the sub, because elektrobank had the same sub size as me.

Thank you

For me, at lower volumes without dynamic eq, I feel the same way. With dynamic eq at 0 db reference, the bass is way too much (gives me a headache), but for music and the offset set to 15db, it's great. The bass is tight, clear, and "room filling". Are you running dynamic eq? Again, without it, the bass disappears for me.
post #11985 of 17929
I have a 1612 and i cant see my pc? I have it saved as DVD on input source since PC isnt an option. Is this receiver not allowed to view or even give sound from a pc? I get video and audio from my PS3, Satellite Box but not from PC? What can it be? Thanks guys!
post #11986 of 17929
oh you're rigth larkowski1 thanks! i changed to that setting and it was like you said. But does that mean that we are doomed to audyssey - dinamyc eq?. So if you want to tweak the settings is useless?.

Do you know subwoofers < $500 that work well with denon 1912?.

Thanks also to jdsmoothie
post #11987 of 17929
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Originally Posted by ynotrhyme View Post

I have a 1612 and i cant see my pc? I have it saved as DVD on input source since PC isnt an option. Is this receiver not allowed to view or even give sound from a pc? I get video and audio from my PS3, Satellite Box but not from PC? What can it be? Thanks guys!

PC connections work, but sometimes have issues. Please refer to the Troubleshooting section, item 12(k) in the Troubleshooting guide linked in my sig.
post #11988 of 17929
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Originally Posted by cvswimmer View Post

oh you're rigth larkowski1 thanks! i changed to that setting and it was like you said. But does that mean that we are doomed to audyssey - dinamyc eq?. So if you want to tweak the settings is useless?.

What do you mean by doomed? Most owners are thrilled with Dyn EQ. The Audyssey EQ itself cannot be "tweaked", however, you can also select "Audyssey Flat" (p. 54) or "Manual" if you prefer. Also, you may want to refer to the Audyssey FAQ linked in my sig as many questions are answered there.
post #11989 of 17929
My screen goes black watching cable only blu ray doesn't do it about three times a hour with a 2112

What % of people have this issue would you say more then 50%

Would it be worth trying to swap my cable box?

I'm straight into avr do not have a arc tv

Thanks



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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...?t=1334369#L20

j. HDMI Handshake Issues (audio/video dropouts): Handshake issues will most often present as "audio dropouts" or sometimes video display issues. HDMI handshake issues with cable/sat boxes are quite common (with any brand of AVR) and are usually always the fault of the cable/sat box not being designed to be connected to an HDMI repeater (ie. AVR) which is why they work without issue connected directly to the TV. The first thing to try to resolve the issue is to ensure the source device having the issue has the latest firmware installed. Next try following this turn ON order: TV first, wait a few seconds, then the AVR, wait a few seconds, and finally the source device. If this doesn't resolve the issue, then in some cases you may resolve the issue by trying the HDMI HDCP reset procedure listed below. With the 2312CI/3312CI if you are having a video issue, try setting the "Resolution" setting to the resolution of the TV rather than the "Auto" setting.

HDMI HDCP reset
1. With all devices powered on, remove the two HDMI cables at both ends from the source device to the AVR and from the AVR to the TV.
2. Power off all devices and disconnect power cables to all devices.
3. Wait 10-15 minutes.
4. Reconnect HDMI and power cables to all devices.
5. Power on the devices in this order ... TV, wait a few secs, AVR, wait a few secs, and then source device (although this is the generally recommended order, in some instances, you may have better luck powering on the AVR first and then the TV, then the source last ... bottom line if it's still not working, try a different power on sequence).

If the issue involves the cable/sat box, your best option to avoid the issue is to connect the cable/sat box HDMI directly to the TV and use ARC to send the audio back to the AVR (if you have an HDMI 1.4 TV w/ARC) or also connect an optical cable from the cable/sat box to the AVR. If you don't have an optical cable available, you can also use a "yellow" composite video cable and connect it to the SAT/CBL coax digital input on the AVR next to the optical jack. Note that with this configuration (ie. HDMI straight to TV) you will lose the GUI/status menu for the cable/sat box.

Another option, if your model offers component video input is to connect both a component video and optical from the cable/sat box to the AVR (however, you lose the audio/video pass through in Standby mode using this configuration).

You may also want to try inserting an HDMI switch in between the AVR and the TV.
post #11990 of 17929
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Cable/sat boxes can be problematic with any brand of AVR. Either connect the box directly to the TV as suggested or you can try changing to a different model cable box.
post #11991 of 17929
In anticipation of receiving my 2312ci next week, I'm reading the owners manual PDF.

The diagram of connections on the back show connections for 7 speakers. Where do you connect the subwoofer(s)?


Ah! Just saw that the SW connections are from the pre-amp stage. The SW has to be self powered.
post #11992 of 17929
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Correct. Most non-HTIB setups require a "powered" sub connection.
post #11993 of 17929
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Originally Posted by trophybuck135 View Post

My screen goes black watching cable only blu ray doesn't do it about three times a hour with a 2112

What % of people have this issue would you say more then 50%

Would it be worth trying to swap my cable box?

I'm straight into avr do not have a arc tv

Thanks

For testing purposes unplug your hdmi from BD end only and plug into your cable box, if it still cuts out follow the suggestion by Jd. This way you have tested a different port and cable.
post #11994 of 17929
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Originally Posted by DaverJ View Post


Thanks for mentioning that, I was looking at Roomie last night. Does Roomie play well with Denon's networking and setup features?

I just received delivery of a 2112ci and am very excited to set it up this afternoon.

Works like a charm, Roomie will find it all by it's self :-)
post #11995 of 17929
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Originally Posted by 49Merc View Post


Ah, but can you easily install the multitude of Denon remote commands on the i devices? With the Harmony One it's a breeze. IMO, our beloved iPad is too large to comfortably use as a remote.

It has the majority of the commands already in. And you can create any it does not, also the support team are great to work with to add anything that is needed.
If you want full customized control then I would suggest Demopad then you can have the remote do what ever you want.
post #11996 of 17929
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Originally Posted by Trevorsplace View Post

It has the majority of the commands already in. And you can create any it does not, also the support team are great to work with to add anything that is needed.
If you want full customized control then I would suggest Demopad then you can have the remote do what ever you want.

Thanks for the information. I find it amazing how all the new devices are becoming more and more versatile.
post #11997 of 17929
I just wanted to post my experiences with my Harmony and the AVR-2312. From reading the older thread posts (and I admit I haven't made it through all 400 pages yet ), I learned the trick of adding other devices to my bedroom system Harmony 550 and then using that to teach commands to my Harmony One for the Denon. I added an AVR-2311 to learn the dyn/eq vol button (very useful IMHO since I don't always use dynamic volume) and also a tuner mode button that's kinda useful if a station is almost coming in (although I use net radion most of the time anyway). The direct/stereo and standard surround buttons are also kind of useful as you don't have to scroll through so many sound modes with Music/Movie, etc buttons.

I also added an AVR-1610 to get the status and dimmer buttons that are on the front panel, but not on the remote.

All the commands work great, and then you can delete those devices from the other remote. I think it's crazy that the Denons support all the commands but they aren't on all the remotes. I know space becomes an issue, but it seems like every Denon remote is completely different.

Thanks for the tips everyone!
post #11998 of 17929
I've read quite about all things Audyssey and my head is swimming. My question is how do I determine whether there are hard and set reasons to set MultiEQ to Audyssey or Audyssey Flat? Personally, I have it now set to Audyssey Flat based on perceived better audio. I have learned to generaly go with "what sounds best to me". The prime sitting position is about 10 feet away with the second position 5.5 feet. Medi ratio is 90% DirecTV and 10% movies. Is there something I'm missing by not having it set to Audyssey?
post #11999 of 17929
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Although in general, "Audyssey" is best for movies and "Audyssey Flat" for music or smaller rooms, whatever you prefer is what is the best setting for you.
post #12000 of 17929
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

^^
Although in general, "Audyssey" is best for movies and "Audyssey Flat" for music or smaller rooms, whatever you prefer is what is the best setting for you.

Thanks. What is considered a small room?
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