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I've noticed this a few times on Fox sports network during some baseball games. Seems that they have fixed the issue now.
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Originally Posted by 49Merc View Post

Is the station a network station?

Yes. Network station - NBC to be exact. Was watching Celebrity Apprentice and America's Got Talent the last couple nights and noticed that dialogue was only coming through the front R & L speaker and not the center channel. I would switch to an NBA game on TNT and it would be full surround with dialogue coming from center channel.
post #12093 of 17927
That's a function of the source not the AVR. Sometimes you will notice this during commercials. I'm not done setting up my 2312ci yet but with my 889 it replaced setting it to Matrix usually smoothed that out.
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With the old Yamaha AVR I had, I don't ever recall programs on TV not coming through the center channel. I had issues with certain Blurays not coming through the center channel because of it not handling the TrueHD sound, but now it's the other way around.

Ugh...frustrating.....
post #12095 of 17927
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Originally Posted by Hank3 View Post

With the old Yamaha AVR I had, I don't ever recalling programs on TV not coming through the center channel. I had issues with certain Blurays not coming through the center channel because of it not handling the TrueHD sound, but now it's the other way around.

Ugh...frustrating.....

Yeah I've had various things, especially commercials, broadcast as DD 2.0.

Enable PLIIZ and it should matrix it up.
post #12096 of 17927
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Originally Posted by jonnythan View Post

Yeah I've had various things, especially commercials, broadcast as DD 2.0.

Enable PLIIZ and it should matrix it up.

How do you enable PLIIZ and matrix it up? Sorry for the newb question
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Just hit Movie on the remote until you get Dolby Digital PLIIz or PLIIx.

Plain Dolby Digital will play it however it's encoded, which could be 2.0. By choosing PLIIx or PLIIz it'll be upmixed to include all your speakers.
post #12098 of 17927
OK gotcha. Will try it tonight. Thanks!
post #12099 of 17927
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Originally Posted by Hank3 View Post

How do you enable PLIIZ and matrix it up? Sorry for the newb question

As the 1612 is only a 5.1 AVR, unless you have a 2CH external amp connected, you won't have the option of either PLIIz(front height) or PLIIx(rear surround). Simply select DD PLII, although as I previously noted, if the front panel display is reading "Dolby Digital" and the station is broadcasting a stereo 2.0 signal over a DD 5.1 audio track, you won't have the option for plain DD PLII either.
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

First note that the Energy Take Classic speakers are much better suited for small/med sized rooms being small bookshelf speakers. Also note that your surrounds are ideally placed too far from the main listening position, although should be able to be compensated for their excessive distance after running AUTO SETUP which should boost their output accordingly. Also note that "average" listening volume will generally be -30db to -20db/50-60 (TV) and -20db to -10db/60-70 (movies/music). Make sure you have Audyssey Dyn EQ set to ON.



No, it's "EVENING".

Thanks for the tips. I ran the audyssey setup again and turned ON the Dynamic volume as 'Day'. I would say it increased the volume in general even though not a whole lot of difference in experience. Still I can hear a clear difference between how internet radio and the other sources(ps3,ipod) sound.I will keep playing with it for few more days.
Has anyone felt a discomfort on ears(like the pressure rising up) after listening for sometime? I'm sure it has something to do with the subwoofer but the sub volume is kept at mid level. Is there anything else I can try - like change bass settings or change the sub placement? Right now it's placed close to the TV and the front speakers. I really desperately want to get this incredible 2112-energy take classic combination working for me too as it does for others
post #12101 of 17927
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You can use the setting (p. 103) to even out the difference in master volume between sources. Also, if you have some flexibility in the placement of your sub, try the sub crawl.
post #12102 of 17927
Thanks..will try that and keep you posted.
post #12103 of 17927
I've looked through the 2112CI manual and also batpig's site, but I can't find the answer to this:

Are the Zone 2 pre-outs simultaneously active if you are amp-assigning the back surround channels to Zone 2?

In other words, I'd like to run a 5.1 setup in the Main Zone along with an amp-powered Zone 2 but also output the Zone 2 signal to an additional secondary source (intercom system). Can I do this at the same time?
post #12104 of 17927
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Yes, you can.
post #12105 of 17927
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Originally Posted by osueric27 View Post


Not trying to do anything fancy, just watch cable on m tv and have the sound through my home theater. My input is set to sat/cable so I would think all my sound should come directly from my cable box and then the video would be passed onto my tv? Sounds simple, but it is not working.

Did you get this solved? Are you getting sound from the receiver?
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Thread Starter 
Yes he posted earlier today. it was the "input mode" setting.
post #12107 of 17927
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Originally Posted by Hank3 View Post

Yes. Network station - NBC to be exact. Was watching Celebrity Apprentice and America's Got Talent the last couple nights and noticed that dialogue was only coming through the front R & L speaker and not the center channel. I would switch to an NBA game on TNT and it would be full surround with dialogue coming from center channel.

I had this problem a few months back with my Denon AVR 987. I finally purchased a 1912 which solved the issue. The true issue resides at NBC or your local NBC affiliate. Feel free to PM me if need be.

Read my saga and you will understand. http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=203425
post #12108 of 17927
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

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Yes, you can.

Sweet. Thanks for verifying, JD!
post #12109 of 17927
Should I need to run Audyssey setup again if I took my Emotiva amp out and going to power with 3312?

Also, will the 3312 power a 4 ohm center or is that not safe?
post #12110 of 17927
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Yes, and yes, it's safe.
post #12111 of 17927
I have just bought a 1312 and am finding it perfect except for one issue... the damn volume icon on screen! It's obstructive and very ugly, I know I can't disable it on this model but if I exchanged it for a 1612 would that have the option to remove it?
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Don't know if anyone has tried this but today I connected a 1912 to a wireless n gaming adapter and it works great. I get internet music and I can use the android app on my phone with it.

I'm sure this is old news.

I could also bridge a connection from my htpc but I think that strained the computer a bit.
post #12113 of 17927
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Originally Posted by haribokart View Post

I have just bought a 1312 and am finding it perfect except for one issue... the damn volume icon on screen! It's obstructive and very ugly, I know I can't disable it on this model but if I exchanged it for a 1612 would that have the option to remove it?

Too funny ... a couple of years ago, there were folks paying $150 more for the 2310CI just to get the volume displayed on the TV, which at that time was the lowest model with that capability. Yes, the 1612 will allow you to turn the volume display OFF.
post #12114 of 17927
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Originally Posted by Afroteddy View Post

Don't know if anyone has tried this but today I connected a 1912 to a wireless n gaming adapter and it works great. I get internet music and I can use the android app on my phone with it.

I'm sure this is old news.

I could also bridge a connection from my htpc but I think that strained the computer a bit.

Yup ... that's one of the ways to do it (also mentioned in post #3 of this thread).
post #12115 of 17927
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Originally Posted by tvuong View Post

Quik question: is the Marantz 6006 basically the same as the Denon 3312?

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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

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"Basically" yes, with some feature differences, although both use Audyssey MultEQ XT.

Feeling pretty good now as Hometheater mag has just reviewed the Marantz 6006 and it scores the highest point for performance and value
post #12116 of 17927
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post


Yup ... that's one of the ways to do it (also mentioned in post #3 of this thread).

That might be where I got the idea from.
post #12117 of 17927
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Either that or you saw it mentioned in this thread as it's been discussed a few times as well.
post #12118 of 17927
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

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Yes, and yes, it's safe.

Thank you jdsmoothie!
post #12119 of 17927
Hey guys,

I usually run in Arch Linux with no issue, but today I restarted in Windows and I all got was a Black Screen.
After many attempts I realized that when my Radeon'd HDMI is connected to the AVR I get a black screen but when it is hooked to the TV it is all good...
I do not have that issue in Arch Linux and I did not have it either with my previous AVR in Windows.
Any idea?

I've tried a bunch of things I found on google but no-go....
Thanks!
post #12120 of 17927
Hello everybody, happy to join your community, my first post here.

And I will start from a problem I have.

I own denon 2312Ci, I have connected two fronts and a sub.

Before and after audyssey setup I tried to play 63hz and 80hz samples with crossover set to 100hz/80hz, speakers set to small (tried in large also with advanced crossover for fronts to 100hz), but I clearly hear the sound from front with sub off and sub on. All looks like double bass. Changing fronts to large full band does not make any differences in loudness of a sound.

Please advice, is it supposed to be like this? Is there any sound in working systems? I understand that crossover is not a "brick wall" but I really don't hear any difference with crossover on and off. The only thing I know that if I set crossover to 250 my sub give more bass, so crossover sends signals to sub as supposed, but does not cut it from fronts. I have the same settings for crossover in stereo/2 CH.

I did processor reset. All the same.
Sub connected to LFE, in settings it is LFE only. Without +mains.

Thank you!
Andrey
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