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post #12121 of 17928
5/16/12 at 1:39am
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Feeling pretty good now as Hometheater mag has just reviewed the Marantz 6006 and it scores the highest point for performance and value

The same publication reviewed the 3312 and managed to give it a different rating, which certainly calls their credibility into question. I don't even bother with reading the flowery text of their reviews any more - just go straight to the bench test section at the end. It's a lot more clear what products are real value when you look at that data.

And pray that the advertisers have not been influencing them to fudge that too.
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post #12122 of 17928
5/16/12 at 4:47am
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Hey guys,

I usually run in Arch Linux with no issue, but today I restarted in Windows and I all got was a Black Screen.
After many attempts I realized that when my Radeon'd HDMI is connected to the AVR I get a black screen but when it is hooked to the TV it is all good...
I do not have that issue in Arch Linux and I did not have it either with my previous AVR in Windows.
Any idea?

I've tried a bunch of things I found on google but no-go....
Thanks!

Refer to the "HTPC" item 12(k) in the Troubleshooting section of the AVR Guide linked in my sig (post #3) for some suggestions.
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post #12123 of 17928
5/16/12 at 5:36am
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Originally Posted by 49Merc View Post

I had this problem a few months back with my Denon AVR 987. I finally purchased a 1912 which solved the issue. The true issue resides at NBC or your local NBC affiliate. Feel free to PM me if need be.

Read my saga and you will understand. http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=203425

Sent you a PM.
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post #12124 of 17928
5/16/12 at 6:31am
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Originally Posted by geearf View Post

Hey guys,

I usually run in Arch Linux with no issue, but today I restarted in Windows and I all got was a Black Screen.
After many attempts I realized that when my Radeon'd HDMI is connected to the AVR I get a black screen but when it is hooked to the TV it is all good...
I do not have that issue in Arch Linux and I did not have it either with my previous AVR in Windows.
Any idea?

I've tried a bunch of things I found on google but no-go....
Thanks!

Try a different hdmi input on your Denon or another hdmi cable, Update or roll back your Radeon driver.
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post #12125 of 17928
5/16/12 at 6:55am
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Originally Posted by geearf View Post

Hey guys,

I usually run in Arch Linux with no issue, but today I restarted in Windows and I all got was a Black Screen.
After many attempts I realized that when my Radeon'd HDMI is connected to the AVR I get a black screen but when it is hooked to the TV it is all good...
I do not have that issue in Arch Linux and I did not have it either with my previous AVR in Windows.
Any idea?

I've tried a bunch of things I found on google but no-go....
Thanks!

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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post


Refer to the "HTPC" item 12(k) in the Troubleshooting section of the AVR Guide linked in my sig (post #3) for some suggestions.

I'm not completely sure because I don't use linux and haven't had EDID issues with my HTPC, but I think the EDID overrides may be only for Windows.

Re-reading geearf's post though, the solution may be in there for his problem in Windows so NM and carry on.
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post #12126 of 17928
5/16/12 at 8:40am
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Refer to the "HTPC" item 12(k) in the Troubleshooting section of the AVR Guide linked in my sig (post #3) for some suggestions.

Do you have one special part in mind?

I tried installing the inf for the EDID thing but no-go....

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Originally Posted by tvuong View Post

Try a different hdmi input on your Denon or another hdmi cable, Update or roll back your Radeon driver.

Since the same port and cable work with another OS (and worked with another receiver), I doubt that is the case :/

I tried with 2 different Catalyst:
an older 11.X, forgot which one and the latest 12.4 but same.

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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

I'm not completely sure because I don't use linux and haven't had EDID issues with my HTPC, but I think the EDID overrides may be only for Windows.

Re-reading geearf's post though, the solution may be in there for his problem in Windows so NM and carry on.

I didn't really follow, but it seems you have an idea


By the way, in safe mode it worked fine, and once rebooted without catalyst installed too.... Harsh.
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post #12127 of 17928
5/16/12 at 8:57am
Search in the HTPC Forum. I haven't had this issue so haven't had to address it. Others over there have and there are solutions available. If you don't find an answer after doing a search to see if there already a thread post your question there.
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post #12128 of 17928
5/16/12 at 10:35am
Denon is treating my 2112's NET/USB missing GUI as a hardware issue and they are replacing the HDMI board. Will this change my MAC address? If it does will I be able to update my radiodenon.com with the new MAC address?
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post #12129 of 17928
5/16/12 at 10:39am
Good question. I still haven't seen if I can migrate my RadioDenon from the MAC ID associated with my Denon ASD-3N iPod dock and internet streamer yet. If it does change the MAC ID for your AVR report back on migrating your RadioDenon account.
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post #12130 of 17928
5/16/12 at 10:42am
Unless the HDMI board also has the ethernet port on it, your MAC should not change.
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post #12131 of 17928
5/16/12 at 11:05am
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Originally Posted by geearf View Post

Since the same port and cable work with another OS (and worked with another receiver), I doubt that is the case :/

I can tell you that I had simiar problem with my 3312/HTPC where my projector screen occationally turns to just a black blank screen. Not sure which one fixed the issue but the combination of different hdmi input on the 3312 and/or new $6 hdmi cable from Amazon did the trick- working flawlessly now. I also have the latest Catalyst suite installed.
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post #12132 of 17928
5/16/12 at 11:13am
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Originally Posted by jonnythan View Post

Unless the HDMI board also has the ethernet port on it, your MAC should not change.

Not 100% sure but I think they are on the same board.
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post #12133 of 17928
5/16/12 at 11:20am
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

If it does change the MAC ID for your AVR report back on migrating your RadioDenon account.

I can't get it to the service center for about a week and they will have it for 2-3 weeks but I will report back and PM you the details.

I'm not too hopeful but fingers crossed the board replacement fixes the missing GUI.

Surprisingly the wife seems more bummed about not having "big sound" for TV and movie watching than I am.
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post #12134 of 17928
5/16/12 at 11:26am
Depending on the design, they might be able to copy the MAC address from the old board to the new one. You might try including a request to preserve the MAC address if at all possible.
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post #12135 of 17928
5/16/12 at 11:27am
I'll wait. Sorry for your troubles. In my AVR-889 the HDMI Board is the Digital Board which costs over $300. I'm willing to bet that a similar board is used in the 2212ci that has an ethernet NIC added to it. It is the main board so you'll probably have a new MAC ID.

Just wondering, this issue couldn't be resolved with the newest f/w update? How recent is it? Was this out of the box or come on later in life?
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post #12136 of 17928
5/16/12 at 11:56am
Woohoo - I jumped on the onecall price, as I'm starting to worry about stock levels. It might not be the primo- #1 deal, but it's close enough.

Anyone want a JVC 702B? LOL.
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post #12137 of 17928
5/16/12 at 11:59am
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Woohoo - I jumped on the onecall price, as I'm starting to worry about stock levels. It might not be the primo- #1 deal, but it's close enough.

Anyone want a JVC 702B? LOL.

Wudja get, wudja get??
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post #12138 of 17928
5/16/12 at 1:57pm
2112 - Pretty much upgrades everything over my current receiver.
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post #12139 of 17928
5/16/12 at 2:06pm
Good deal!!

I think stock levels are created by the (r)etailers to create the need to buy now rather than next week or next month. That said I jumped on a 2312ci 2 weeks ago now.
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post #12140 of 17928
5/16/12 at 2:31pm
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Originally Posted by hancox View Post

2112 - Pretty much upgrades everything over my current receiver.

I also got the 2112ci from OneCall, and very happy with it. They shipped FedEX Ground double-boxed, and went out from Washington on a Tuesday and arrived in Tennessee on a Saturday morning.

It took the good part of the day to remove my old system (Denon 3803 pre-HDMI! ), pull all the wires, re-program the Harmony, and set everything up -- but the process went pretty smooth. Alert your household they will be hearing Audyssey chirps for about 10-15 minutes minimum, and longer if you need to re-run the setup like I did (sub was too loud initially). A camera tripod is highly recommended, as the included mic has the screw-hole.

Also recommended is to read through batpig and jdsmoothie's great info in posts 1-3 of this thread a couple times - it will answer almost anything you will come across.

Good luck - I hope your experience with it is as fun and exciting, and you are as impressed with it as I am.
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post #12141 of 17928
5/16/12 at 6:11pm
(I thought I posted this thread a few days ago, then it vanished... hopefully I'm not re-posting something that got moved to a different forum or something).


So I have an AVR-1912, and after some hassle, got it hooked up to my home network. So now I can listen to AirPlay on my iPhone, which works pretty well.

Then there's also this thing called DLNA which seems to allow music to be streamed from a laptop. But documentation on it seems to be sketchy and abstract... lots of "here's high level descriptions of how DLNA works", very little "hey, you want to actually play music files from your PC, here's how to do it". In particular, is there some way to just cause all PC audio to be redirected from the PC speakers through the Denon? Seems like that would be a useful and obvious feature.

In addition, my wife has an Android phone. Is there a way to get music from her phone to play through the Denon?


thanks!
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post #12142 of 17928
5/16/12 at 8:02pm
well after over a month messing and tweaking with the 1712 ive settled on dynamic eq and dynamic volume both set to off unless very late at night. it just sounds richer and fuller with those two options turned off.
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5/16/12 at 8:20pm
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Originally Posted by tvuong View Post

I can tell you that I had simiar problem with my 3312/HTPC where my projector screen occationally turns to just a black blank screen. Not sure which one fixed the issue but the combination of different hdmi input on the 3312 and/or new $6 hdmi cable from Amazon did the trick- working flawlessly now. I also have the latest Catalyst suite installed.

Well I owe you a BIG thanks.

I tried all the various HDMI ports of the receiver and Game 2 and AUX work fine (why?).
Of course out of Game 1 and Game 2 I had picked Game 1 to plug it in.... :/

If you have any idea why this works I'm still interested!

Thanks!
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post #12144 of 17928
5/16/12 at 8:25pm
^^
Each of the HDMI input jacks has a different length signal path, which in some cases causes an issue with some components. This is why we always suggest to try each and every HDMI input when a device is having an issue on a particular one, as that may not be the case on one of the other HDMI inputs ... doesn't mean the original one is defective as it's very likely another device will work just fine on that same input.
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post #12145 of 17928
5/16/12 at 11:05pm
Hmmmmm.
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post #12146 of 17928
5/17/12 at 2:20am
First thanks to Batpig and JD for so many contributions to this forum. I have my 2312 CI Cat 5 wired to my airport extreme router. I have done the latest firmware update. My Iphone is an Ip4 with the latest software. My problem is that I can use Airplay on the IP4 and it works great.( No more dropouts after I turned off the bluetooth, PIA to remember to turn it back on getting into the car). The next day, when I turn on the 2312 with the Denon IP4 remote app, or the Denon remote, I get the, " Airplay Speaker Not Available. In use by someone else,etc" error on my IP4. I tested my wife's IP4S and it gives the same error. It is NOT in use by anyone else. It seems the only way to get connected is to pull the plug on the 2312 and wait about 10 seconds and plug it back in. Airplay then connects. Sure sounds like a Denon firmware issue. Does anyone have a solution? thanks.
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post #12147 of 17928
5/17/12 at 4:39am
^^
When you are finished with the Airplay audio, try pressing the "Zone/Device Power Standby" button (ie. on the remote, bottom row to the right of the TV INPUT button ... circle with line through the top).
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post #12148 of 17928
5/17/12 at 6:10am
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Originally Posted by geearf View Post


Well I owe you a BIG thanks.

I tried all the various HDMI ports of the receiver and Game 2 and AUX work fine (why?).
Of course out of Game 1 and Game 2 I had picked Game 1 to plug it in.... :/

If you have any idea why this works I'm still interested!

Thanks!

Glad it solves your problem. I believe i have my htpc connected to game 2 as well. I had it connected to dvd input and had the blank screen problem.
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post #12149 of 17928
5/17/12 at 6:53am
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Originally Posted by AlexWerner View Post

(I thought I posted this thread a few days ago, then it vanished... hopefully I'm not re-posting something that got moved to a different forum or something).


So I have an AVR-1912, and after some hassle, got it hooked up to my home network. So now I can listen to AirPlay on my iPhone, which works pretty well.

Then there's also this thing called DLNA which seems to allow music to be streamed from a laptop. But documentation on it seems to be sketchy and abstract... lots of "here's high level descriptions of how DLNA works", very little "hey, you want to actually play music files from your PC, here's how to do it". In particular, is there some way to just cause all PC audio to be redirected from the PC speakers through the Denon? Seems like that would be a useful and obvious feature.

In addition, my wife has an Android phone. Is there a way to get music from her phone to play through the Denon?


thanks!

Yes you can, i have an android phone and i downloaded de imedia lite player, where you can play music from your andoird phone to your Denon. Also download the AVR remote for Denon/Marantz. You can control your Denon via remote by Phone.
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post #12150 of 17928
5/17/12 at 6:54am
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Originally Posted by tvuong View Post


Glad it solves your problem. I believe i have my htpc connected to game 2 as well. I had it connected to dvd input and had the blank screen problem.

Which AVR?

I have a 2312ci and my HTPC is connected to DVR without issue first try.. log in screen comes right up. At this point I haven't tested playback using MB/MPC-HC but I figure if I get to the login screen the EDID has made it's connection.
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