The **OFFICIAL** Denon AVR-XX12 Model Owner's Thread - Page 408

Originally Posted by Beeron

The AVR is not currently networked. I would just like to be able to use it as in audio portal, playing my itunes library located on a pc in my upstairs office in my basement using the Denon app.

Originally Posted by jonnythan

All you need is a Wireless bridge. Pretty much any wireless bridge ever made will do just fine.

Originally Posted by Beeron

No audio cables or anything else? Just the ethernet cable from the "bridge" to the AVR, correct?

Originally Posted by Beeron

No audio cables or anything else? Just the ethernet cable from the "bridge" to the AVR, correct?

Originally Posted by Sammy2

IMHO, apple is great at marketing and making money as well as providing fine user-friendly product but there always seems to be another lesser-known product available that will do the same thing for less money. Sometimes it might not be as slick but will cost you less.

Originally Posted by Beeron

Here's what I'm looking to do in some more detail:

I have a computer upstairs in my office running Itunes. My home theater area is in my basement with the Denon 2112. I would like to be able to play my office pc Itunes library in my basement, and be able to use the Denon app (whether it be on a droid or iphone) to control this music.

Originally Posted by Beeron

Yeah, that's exactly why I was considering the Airport. It's very minimal in size and will be completely hidden...jack plugged into wall directly behind tv with one ethernet cable connecting the two..

Thanks for the other link...I'm considering it...would have to find the right place to put it since it is "clunkier".

Originally Posted by unclebean

This could be a bit of a noob question, so forgive me

(background)
I've got a 2112ci. Using two Energy towers as my fronts and bose satellites as my surrounds (came with the house, will swap out later). I'll be buying a center soon (trying to find a suitable shelf to stick it on above my tv) and a surround later.

I've got a comcast cable box, but a non HDMI model. I'm sending audio to the AVR via old school RCA cables (red/white). I can't find any options to output any kind of 5.1 signal in the cable box menu. only options i see are Mono, Stereo and matrix . I only get sound from my fronts

Is there anyway i can get the AVR to do something with the signal so that it outputs some kind of surround sound signal so that it also uses the rear surrounds?

Or do i need to use a digital optical cable for audio for this to work?

Originally Posted by unclebean

could i use a digital optical cable for true 5.1 output?

Originally Posted by Beeron

Yeah, that's exactly why I was considering the Airport. It's very minimal in size and will be completely hidden...jack plugged into wall directly behind tv with one ethernet cable connecting the two..

Thanks for the other link...I'm considering it...would have to find the right place to put it since it is "clunkier".

Originally Posted by boss77

I have tried searching, but didn't find anything. I vaguely thought during setup there was an option to have the volume increase in 1.0 increments rather than 0.5 increments, but cannot seem to find where I can change this setting. Any help appreciated!

Originally Posted by batpig

a couple of things:

1. "slick and easy" is worth money, period. Some may not be willing to pay for it (especially if you are technical enough to deal with a less slick solution) but many are. So the extra cost is justifiable.

2. the idea that you can "do the same thing cheaper" is true if you are only talking about the wifi bridge functionality, but the AX can do other stuff too. For example, you can use it directly as an AirPlay node (what I and Chris originally thought that Beeron wanted) and beam music directly to an AX controlled by the Remote app on your iPhone, iPad, etc. So for somebody like Chris who has all his music in iTunes and has plenty of iThings to control stuff, he can put an AX anywhere in the house he wants music delivered and there it is. You can take your iPhone or iPad and determine what song to play and which room of the house it goes to, and it's all (there it is again) slick and integrates perfectly.

Originally Posted by batpig

there is still a bit of confusion here:

the first thing to understand is that BOTH your receiver AND the Airport Express can be used for AirPlay. You can stream AirPlay wirelessly through an AX (that's what I meant by "audio portal") or, if your receiver is networked, you can stream audio through AirPlay directly to the receiver. That's why it was important to understand if your receiver was already networked or not. If the receiver was already networked then the AX wouldn't even be necessary, because AirPlay is already built into the AVR.

The thing with the AX is that you have to choose one of the "modes", you can't simultaneously use it as a WiFi bridge (internet portal) and also as an audio portal. So think of it as three options:

Option 1: Use an AX as an "audio portal" only. The AirPlay will stream directly to the AX, and you will output the audio to the receiver via an audio cable (NOT an ethernet cable). This has a disadvantage in that your receiver is STILL not networked, so you can't use any of the other network features built into the AVR.

Option 2: Use the AX as an internet bridge, in which case you are connecting it to the receiver with an ethernet cable. Now, your receiver is fully networked, and the AX is serving as an "internal portal" not an "audio portal", as the audio will stream directly to the receiver. The AX is functioning purely as a means to get internet to the receiver (by converting the wifi signal into an ethernet connection). But now you can use all the internet features of the receiver (not just AirPlay but control via smartphone app or web browser, Pandora streaming, firmware updates, etc).

Option 3: What Sammy and Jonny are suggesting is do the same thing as Option 2, but because you are just using the AX as a bridge, you can get a cheaper bridge that isn't an Apple product. So think of it as Option 2 but cheaper....

Originally Posted by batpig

there is still a bit of confusion here:

the first thing to understand is that BOTH your receiver AND the Airport Express can be used for AirPlay. You can stream AirPlay wirelessly through an AX (that's what I meant by "audio portal") or, if your receiver is networked, you can stream audio through AirPlay directly to the receiver. That's why it was important to understand if your receiver was already networked or not. If the receiver was already networked then the AX wouldn't even be necessary, because AirPlay is already built into the AVR.

The thing with the AX is that you have to choose one of the "modes", you can't simultaneously use it as a WiFi bridge (internet portal) and also as an audio portal. So think of it as three options:

Option 1: Use an AX as an "audio portal" only. The AirPlay will stream directly to the AX, and you will output the audio to the receiver via an audio cable (NOT an ethernet cable). This has a disadvantage in that your receiver is STILL not networked, so you can't use any of the other network features built into the AVR.

Option 2: Use the AX as an internet bridge, in which case you are connecting it to the receiver with an ethernet cable. Now, your receiver is fully networked, and the AX is serving as an "internal portal" not an "audio portal", as the audio will stream directly to the receiver. The AX is functioning purely as a means to get internet to the receiver (by converting the wifi signal into an ethernet connection). But now you can use all the internet features of the receiver (not just AirPlay but control via smartphone app or web browser, Pandora streaming, firmware updates, etc).

Option 3: What Sammy and Jonny are suggesting is do the same thing as Option 2, but because you are just using the AX as a bridge, you can get a cheaper bridge that isn't an Apple product. So think of it as Option 2 but cheaper....

Originally Posted by Beeron

Seems that the only reason you'd go with option 1 using an audio cable is if you didn't have a network capable AVR.

Originally Posted by Beeron


Thanks...this pretty much clears up what everyone was saying, and seems to back my original thinking and initially the reason I was looking at the Airport X....with option 2, I can stream my itunes music and use the Denon app with only the ethernet cable used as a connection from the AX to the AVR.

Seems that the only reason you'd go with option 1 using an audio cable is if you didn't have a network capable AVR.

Originally Posted by jdsmoothie

When you use option #1, you'll likely have far fewer audio dropouts as the audio is streaming directly to the AX, while in option #2, the audio is streaming to the wireless router, then to the AX bridge. So start with option #2 and go to option #1 if the AVR gives to many "Buffering" messages.