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post #12751 of 17928
5/26/12 at 4:38pm
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It only turns red when you have HDMI Control set to ON.

Cool. Thanks.
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post #12752 of 17928
5/26/12 at 4:50pm
Guess I won't be doing a f/w update to my 2312ci for a while..
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post #12753 of 17928
5/26/12 at 4:53pm
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With the 2313CI due to be released in a week or two, the 2312CI won't likely have too many more updates to have to worry about.
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post #12754 of 17928
5/26/12 at 4:56pm
So far it is working great so I don't see a need for any.
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post #12755 of 17928
5/26/12 at 6:04pm
It was too good to last.

Like before, the AVR is controllable via web browser (and is therefore connected to my PC) but Airplay option has disappeared from iTunes.

Any idea what could cause this inconsistent network behavior?
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post #12756 of 17928
5/26/12 at 6:05pm
I just got the Denon 1612 and I think it's great so far.

I ran the calibration but I moved the subwoofer by two feet afterwards.

Can I just adjust the distance manually or should I run the audyssey calibration again? Or can I just leave the setting alone? Which was further than the actual distance.
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post #12757 of 17928
5/26/12 at 6:25pm
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Originally Posted by alokeprasad View Post

It was too good to last.

Like before, the AVR is controllable via web browser (and is therefore connected to my PC) but Airplay option has disappeared from iTunes.

Any idea what could cause this inconsistent network behavior?

Have you tried the suggestions listed in the Troubleshooting section of post #3?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...p?t=1334369#L1
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post #12758 of 17928
5/26/12 at 6:27pm
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Originally Posted by BBCheese View Post

I just got the Denon 1612 and I think it's great so far.

I ran the calibration but I moved the subwoofer by two feet afterwards.

Can I just adjust the distance manually or should I run the audyssey calibration again? Or can I just leave the setting alone? Which was further than the actual distance.

Any movement of either sub/speakers or furniture requires a rerun of Audyssey. Also note the "distance" shown for the sub is actually a "delay" setting to allow for the filters in the sub. Also if you're able to move the sub about the room, try doing the "sub crawl" to determine the best location.
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post #12759 of 17928
5/26/12 at 6:31pm
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Any movement of either sub/speakers or furniture requires a rerun of Audyssey. Also note the "distance" shown for the sub is actually a "delay" setting to allow for the filters in the sub. Also if you're able to move the sub about the room, try doing the "sub crawl" to determine the best location.

Alright thanks. I'll just rerun the calibration tomorrow. Just moved the sub from a corner to next to between the right speaker and TV.

And just to double check. The best settings are 120hz for sub crossover, and 60-80 for the rest right?
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post #12760 of 17928
5/26/12 at 6:34pm
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The best setting for the sub(ie. LPF for LFE) setting is the factory default setting of 120hz while the best setting for the speakers is whatever the AVR sets them to unless it's < 80hz in which case you would change the speaker to SMALL and "raise" the crossover to either 60hz or 80hz.
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post #12761 of 17928
5/26/12 at 6:39pm
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

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The best setting for the sub(ie. LPF for LFE) setting is the factory default setting of 120hz while the best setting for the speakers is whatever the AVR sets them to unless it's < 80hz in which case you would change the speaker to SMALL and "raise" the crossover to either 60hz or 80hz.

Thanks. Just one more quick question. Do I move my couch to set up my mic stand or try to set it up on my couch and surrounding area?
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post #12762 of 17928
5/26/12 at 6:44pm
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Unless you don't plan on using the couch when you're listening to the surround system, no, you don't want to move the couch. Simply setup the tripod on the couch. Ensure however the mic is situated at least a few inches above the back of the couch and if the couch is against a wall, the mic needs to be at least 18" forward of that back wall for all mic positions.
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post #12763 of 17928
5/26/12 at 6:50pm
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

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Unless you don't plan on using the couch when you're listening to the surround system, no, you don't want to move the couch. Simply setup the tripod on the couch. Ensure however the mic is situated at least a few inches above the back of the couch and if the couch is against a wall, the mic needs to be at least 18" forward of that back wall for all mic positions.

Alright. Thanks a lot man. Much appreciated.
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post #12764 of 17928
5/26/12 at 7:03pm
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Have you tried the suggestions listed in the Troubleshooting section of post #3?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...p?t=1334369#L1

Unplugging the power to the AVR for 10 minutes and re-powering it up has fixed the Airplay (for now?).

The question is: Why is this happening and how can I make it stop?
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post #12765 of 17928
5/26/12 at 7:10pm
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Did you try the other suggestions in that post?
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post #12766 of 17928
5/26/12 at 7:30pm
I recently bought an AVR-1712 and so far it sounds great except when I go to watch 3D movies. For some reason when I go to watch 3D movies, about 5 minutes in my Sony 3D TV says it has lost the 3D signal and the screen goes black, then comes back about 15 seconds. I still have sound though. To troubleshoot this, i have actually disconnected my receiver and this does not happen. I have actually returned the receiver as well and got another and it still happens. Is there some type of configuration I am missing on the receiver? Should I replace my HDMI cables?
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post #12767 of 17928
5/26/12 at 7:32pm
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

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Did you try the other suggestions in that post?

a. Airplay icon not showing up If the Airplay icon is no longer displayed, try one or more of the following steps to resolve the issue:
- Set the AVR to Standby and unplug it for 10 minutes. Then plug back in and turn on again. You may need to do this several times. Done this. It fixed the problem at least temporarily.
- If using an iPhone or HTPC, try cycling it OFF/ON/OFF/ON while it's connected to the network. - I am troubleshooting with iTunes on my PC first. That eliminates wifi flakiness from troubleshooting.
- Close/Open iTunes a few times. -Done this. No effect.
- Power cycle the router, wireless bridge, or Powerline adapters OFF/ON/OFF/ON. Did not do this. I am using wired ethernet and my web browser can see and control the AVR. Ergo, the AVR is accessible to the PC.
- If your router has a "multicast" option, try setting it to YES. Not sure how to do this on the WNDR3800
- Cycle DHCP OFF/ON/OFF/ON. Did not try that. Again, my PC can access the AVR through the browser. And I can ping the AVR's IP address.
- Assign the AVR with a static IP address of its own. Turn off DHCP and select an IP address out of the normal range (1-100, eg. 192.168.1.101 ) and then leave the subnet address that's there. Give it a few minutes after you type it in and you should see the icon pop up on your device. Not done this but I might try. Won't harm anything, but I doubt that it'll make any difference, as my PC can access the AVR.

I'm sure that the problem is with the 2312ci because unplugging it fixed the problem. I'm trying to see if there is a pattern of usage that puts it in Airplay limbo. Like pausing an airplay number, closing iTunes (or the app on my iPad), powering off AVR or something in some order.
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post #12768 of 17928
5/26/12 at 8:40pm
Hey guys, I'm having a bit of trouble getting audio/video to pass through my receiver. I just received everything today and spent all day setting it up . . . here is my setup:

Panasonic TC-50ST50 Plasma Monitor
Denon AVR-2112 Ci Receiver
Klipsch HD theater 1000 5.1 speakers

After connecting and calibrating all of my speakers, I tested the system using my iPod and everything works perfectly. I have audio through all channels and all audio information from my iPod is displayed on monitor. . .

For some reason, when I connect my PS3 to the receiver through ANY input I get a "no signal" message on the monitor. I tried resetting all devices and I checked all connections to make sure they were secure. When I hit the menu button on the Denon remote I see the menu screen appear on the monitor, and the same goes for the SOURCE SELECT button. Also I tried connecting the PS3 directly to the monitor and that works perfectly. . .

Lastly I will note that all connections between devices are via HDMI (From PS3 to receiver and from receiver to monitor), and all INPUT MODES are set to HDMI on the receiver.

I can't seem to figure it out, but I would have thought the setup would have been fairly straight foward. Any help would be greatly appriciated guy's . . . Thanks a lot!
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post #12769 of 17928
5/27/12 at 12:37am
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

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If you review all the posts in this thread for the past few days, you'll note that the update took anywhere from about 1-4 hours; however, in every case the update eventually completed. As I noted in post #6 of this thread, if the update hasn't been started yet, it's best to wait a week or so to let Denon work out the bugs in the update as it normally shouldn't take more than about 30 minutes to load.

I was scared lat night too, but update eventually finished after 2-3 hrs

but denon has to fix it, its horrible to see the looping for so long
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post #12770 of 17928
5/27/12 at 12:54am
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Originally Posted by hooderAZ View Post

I recently bought an AVR-1712 and so far it sounds great except when I go to watch 3D movies. For some reason when I go to watch 3D movies, about 5 minutes in my Sony 3D TV says it has lost the 3D signal and the screen goes black, then comes back about 15 seconds. I still have sound though. To troubleshoot this, i have actually disconnected my receiver and this does not happen. I have actually returned the receiver as well and got another and it still happens. Is there some type of configuration I am missing on the receiver? Should I replace my HDMI cables?

The fact that you've gone through 2 AVRs with the same issue tends to point towards either the cables or the combination of Sony/AVR being the issue. Have you tried the HDCP setup (to include HDCP reset) suggested in the Troubleshooting section of the Denon Guide linked in my sig?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...?t=1334369#L11
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post #12771 of 17928
5/27/12 at 12:56am
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Originally Posted by fishhead90 View Post

Hey guys, I'm having a bit of trouble getting audio/video to pass through my receiver. I just received everything today and spent all day setting it up . . . here is my setup:

Panasonic TC-50ST50 Plasma Monitor
Denon AVR-2112 Ci Receiver
Klipsch HD theater 1000 5.1 speakers

After connecting and calibrating all of my speakers, I tested the system using my iPod and everything works perfectly. I have audio through all channels and all audio information from my iPod is displayed on monitor. . .

For some reason, when I connect my PS3 to the receiver through ANY input I get a "no signal" message on the monitor. I tried resetting all devices and I checked all connections to make sure they were secure. When I hit the menu button on the Denon remote I see the menu screen appear on the monitor, and the same goes for the SOURCE SELECT button. Also I tried connecting the PS3 directly to the monitor and that works perfectly. . .

Lastly I will note that all connections between devices are via HDMI (From PS3 to receiver and from receiver to monitor), and all INPUT MODES are set to HDMI on the receiver.

I can't seem to figure it out, but I would have thought the setup would have been fairly straight foward. Any help would be greatly appriciated guy's . . . Thanks a lot!

Have you reviewed the Troubleshooting section of the Denon Guide linked in my sig .... specifically the PS3 tip?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...?t=1334369#L18
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post #12772 of 17928
5/27/12 at 1:15am
Given the reported issues with the latest firmware updates -

I've just received the latest update on the 1912, the whole process was trouble free and finished within 25 minutes.
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post #12773 of 17928
5/27/12 at 1:36am
For your Airplay problems, check the following:

1. If Bluetooth mode is active on your cellphone, turn it off while listening to Airplay.

2. During troubleshooting, if you have a cordless phone operating in the 2.4 MHz spectrum, turn it off and see if Airplay is stable.
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post #12774 of 17928
5/27/12 at 1:49am
In response to hooderAZ, I have the same problem - try turning off your television set (while the avr and cable box/dvd/game remain online). Turn your television back on, once it comes back online the avr usually flips in to 3d mode as well as the television. I don't think this is an uncommon problem. As far as the update problem... DENON, needs to get their **** together. 3min, 2min, 1min, 4 hours, lol.

Going to try to update while I sleep, hopefully that works!

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post #12775 of 17928
5/27/12 at 4:01am
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Originally Posted by darshparsh View Post

Oh man, what a terrible experience. Too bad Denon couldn't figure fix the status bar. I read that you could pause the update by pulling out the network cable on the 1912avr, luckily that stopped it. Reset the Auddysey EQ settings and seems to be back to normal. Attempting an update overnight but I don't plan on keeping this thing running during the day. Four hours for the update eh? What was the consensus for people that got it it to work - how long did it take? 2-3 hours?

I took me like 1 1/2 hours, i unplugged the AVR a few times, until i just let the update to it's thing. Guess next time i'll wait until the update is at least a week old to download it.
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post #12776 of 17928
5/27/12 at 4:06am
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Originally Posted by hooderAZ View Post

I recently bought an AVR-1712 and so far it sounds great except when I go to watch 3D movies. For some reason when I go to watch 3D movies, about 5 minutes in my Sony 3D TV says it has lost the 3D signal and the screen goes black, then comes back about 15 seconds. I still have sound though. To troubleshoot this, i have actually disconnected my receiver and this does not happen. I have actually returned the receiver as well and got another and it still happens. Is there some type of configuration I am missing on the receiver? Should I replace my HDMI cables?

Or try another 3d player. It could be the blu-ray player. A cable would be cheaper.
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post #12777 of 17928
5/27/12 at 4:29am
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Originally Posted by jimbo1mcm View Post

For your Airplay problems, check the following:

1. If Bluetooth mode is active on your cellphone, turn it off while listening to Airplay.

2. During troubleshooting, if you have a cordless phone operating in the 2.4 MHz spectrum, turn it off and see if Airplay is stable.

All my Airplay problems and troubleshooting is over wired Ethernet and my PC.

Just this morning, for example:

1. I can access internet radio and my DLNA Media Server on my 2312ci.

2. I can ping my AVR from my PC.

3. I can control my AVR from the web interface on my PC.

BUT

Airplay is not available in iTunes on my PC.

If I unplug my AVR power and plug it back in, I'll get Airplay in iTunes on my PC.
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post #12778 of 17928
5/27/12 at 7:03am
I finally tried the net setup to save my configuration on the laptop, but noticed something I'm curious about.

Under the Source Select option, the third item is called "video". Under that there two items - Video select and Video mode. Video select gives me a dropdown option of two sources, and Video Mode gives me a checkbox to select Auto, Game, or Movie.

What are these options doing? I don't see these options in the GUI menu - is this net setup only?
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post #12779 of 17928
5/27/12 at 8:44am
Finally pulled the trigger on a 2212ci, got it from OneCall at a better price than anywhere else (these days), and believe me I called nearly all of them. These are getting pretty rare now, and those that did have them didn't seem to want to get their price down even to what they had a few months ago, but OneCall came through. Helps to call places more than once until you get someone you can work with. Holly was great to deal with.

Looking forward to getting it next week! Thanks to all on the forum who provide such great information, especially batpig and jdsmoothie.
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post #12780 of 17928
5/27/12 at 9:52am
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Originally Posted by alokeprasad View Post

a. Airplay icon not showing up If the Airplay icon is no longer displayed, try one or more of the following steps to resolve the issue:
- Set the AVR to Standby and unplug it for 10 minutes. Then plug back in and turn on again. You may need to do this several times. Done this. It fixed the problem at least temporarily.
- If using an iPhone or HTPC, try cycling it OFF/ON/OFF/ON while it's connected to the network. - I am troubleshooting with iTunes on my PC first. That eliminates wifi flakiness from troubleshooting.
- Close/Open iTunes a few times. -Done this. No effect.
- Power cycle the router, wireless bridge, or Powerline adapters OFF/ON/OFF/ON. Did not do this. I am using wired ethernet and my web browser can see and control the AVR. Ergo, the AVR is accessible to the PC.
- If your router has a "multicast" option, try setting it to YES. Not sure how to do this on the WNDR3800
- Cycle DHCP OFF/ON/OFF/ON. Did not try that. Again, my PC can access the AVR through the browser. And I can ping the AVR's IP address.
- Assign the AVR with a static IP address of its own. Turn off DHCP and select an IP address out of the normal range (1-100, eg. 192.168.1.101 ) and then leave the subnet address that’s there. Give it a few minutes after you type it in and you should see the icon pop up on your device. Not done this but I might try. Won't harm anything, but I doubt that it'll make any difference, as my PC can access the AVR.

I'm sure that the problem is with the 2312ci because unplugging it fixed the problem. I'm trying to see if there is a pattern of usage that puts it in Airplay limbo. Like pausing an airplay number, closing iTunes (or the app on my iPad), powering off AVR or something in some order.

I set the AVR to fixed IP address. That did not help. After a while (and I haven't quite figured out how long and after what actions) Airplay was gone in iTunes. As always, I could ping the AVR and control it via a browser.

I toggled it to DHCP on and Airplay is back. All other aspects of networking (Internet radio, access to my DLNA media server, ping response, control via web browser) works fine under either mode (DHCP or fixed IP). But switching brings back Airplay if Airplay had disappeared.

Switching back and forth between DHCP and fixed IP address seems to reset something in the AVR that brings back Airplay.

I should email Denon. Maybe they can fix this in a future firmware update.
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