The **OFFICIAL** Denon AVR-XX12 Model Owner's Thread - Page 471

Then try adding either an optical or coax digital cable from the TiVo to the AVR and change the TiVo's source INPUT MODE setting to "DIGITAL".

I have an ST30, 3312CI, and 3 optical players.

The 3 optical's all hooked to 3312 by HDMI only. (HDMI control is turned off on these machines....my preference)

HDMI 1 OUT on 3312 to HDMI 1 IN ST30.

Those are the only digital cables (no coax, no optical).......(HDMI are high speed Monoprice cables from a couple years back, none are 1.4 although they all work fine for ARC and 3D)

HDMI control is set to ON for receiver and TV.

In order for ARC work, I had to assign the TV input on 3312 to use the optical connection (even though there is no optical cable involved)

In the TV setup, go to Viera link settings and set Power Off link to "NO" and the "default speakers" to "theater".

When I hit TV on the Denon remote, audio will be fed from the TV to the receiver with no sound from the TV. When the receiver is turned off, the TV will remain ON and the TV speakers will automatically turn on. This is exactly how I want it to be. I haven't encountered any issues yet.
Edited by Stilly77 - 6/28/12 at 2:27pm

Note that OPT1 (TV) is the mfr default setting and does not have to be changed which is why ARC works.

OK thanks.

I couldn't get ARC to work at all until I selected optical in the TV input setup. Yes I am confused.

Question?

Is the physical optical #1 port on the AVR unusable when ARC is enabled or can the port be re-assigned?

The OPT1 port can be reassigned to another source name.

@jdsmoothie

I'm still failing to get sound from the Internet Radio test.

I flopped DHCP OFF/ON three times and tested the connection.

Then I turned DHCP OFF and entered the IP address 192.168,1,101 and went back to the "Detail" screen where it showed the changes. I waited until the screen saver kicked in, but didn't see an ikon on either that screen or the AVR's display.

I did the Radio test anyway, but it didn't work.

Unless you or anyone else have additional suggestions, I'll take the AVR to the Denon service center tomorrow.

I also have 3312, 65ST30 TV

- when both AVR and TV are on, sound always outputs to AVR speakers regardless of my selecting HDMI audio out to Amp or TV (HDMI setup from denon menu). I am expecting sound to outputs to TV speakers when selecting HDMI audio out to TV. does your setup have this same issue?
- what do you use ARC for? TV show over the air?

By googling your DIR-655, it would seem it does indeed have a "multicast" option ... so enable Multi-cast Streaming under Advanced/Networking.

Didn't I see somewhere that the Front Height and Front Wide output is 25W a channel?
Can't find it again for nothing.

Thanks for finding what eluded me.

I set "muticast" on and rebooted the router. Then I did the connection test with "Internet radio" with both DHCP ON and OFF. No luck. Hopefully the service center can get the latest firmware loaded tomorrow.

Onward into Internet confusion.

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Is your router setup to only allow specific MAC addresses to connect? If yes, you'll need to enter the AVR's mac address (found under Network Information menu) into the router.

OK, thank you! I did a processor reset and went through setup again with no assignment of TV to optical 1. ARC is indeed working fine. Chalk it up to user error.


Alright, I just went through this HDMI control debacle for the last hour and finally have figured out what steps I need to do.

I am using basic cable with no set-top box directly into the TV. I get HD channels with 5.1 DD and ARC works great, no need for the extra cable.

TV settings:

Viera link ON
Power ON link NO
Power off link NO
Default speakers Theater

3312 settings:

Input assignment TV........no HDMI, no Digital, no Comp
HDMI setup......HDMI control ON
........standby source LAST
Power Off Control OFF

With the above settings, when I follow the order below, things work to my liking:

1. With AVR in standby (red ring), turn on TV with the Denon remote. Use the lower most left button on remote. (obviously the Denon remote needs the TV setup code)
2. The AVR will automatically start a few seconds later and set itself to the TV input. You will hear volume briefly from the TV speakers, but it will cease shortly, and audio will be heard from the AVR only. (You'll notice if you try to use the TV remote to adjust volume, it will show a +/- home theater volume overlay which controls AVRvolume.)
3. At this point, the channel and volume buttons on the Denon remote work correctly to control the TV and AVR.
4. If you just want to use the TV speakers and not the AVR, simply kill the power on the AVR with the remote.
5. The TV will remain ON and the audio will switch automatically back to the TV speakers.
6. When done, shut the TV off with the Denon remote (lower most left button)
7. Repeat Step 1.

Basically it's TV ON, AVR auto ON from standby, AVR OFF, TV OFF.

I now get the same result every time. TV with AVR sound OR TV with TV speakers. BUT, I have to follow the startup/shutdown order exactly as above......and then it's repeatable, always now.

EDIT: I just set the AVR to send HDMI audio to the TV instead of the amp. I put a DVD in in one of the players and killed power to the amp. The amp went to standby and the audio as well as video is playing through the TV just fine, so the pass through is working.
Edited by Stilly77 - 6/28/12 at 10:03pm

Thanks, I hadn't accessed that menu, I had used the one in the initial setup which wouldn't allow me to switch the video to none.

Thanks for your help, both times!

BINGO! Our son set the router up that way and I didn't get involved enough to know about it. Tonight, thanks to you and him, I should be able to handle adding new Internet devices going forward. Better late than never.

The radio played and the firmware updated. Everything seems to be working.

Thanks for persisting.

I was hoping to use Polk Monitor 30's for Front Height, but they're only recommended to 100W.

You can ignore the speaker power ratings. On average a speaker only draws < 5W/CH and the Height speakers are only playing ambient audio.

Is there a screen in the 3312ci's menu that shows what firmware version you're on? I got my replacement receiver last night and the firmware update process behaved differently. When it was connected to my router, it would sit at authenticating for a little while and then go into an endless cycle of restarting the AVR and displaying "update retry" which I'd have to do a network reset to break out of. I tried connecting it directly to my cable modem and it just sat at authenticating for several hours.

After turning the AVR off and back on, checking for a firmware update says I'm at the latest version. Since the update process didn't seem to succeed I'm suspicious about that.

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No there is not, rather this is a feature of the new XX13 models only. Please review posts #3-6 at the beginning of this thread, with the firmware information provided in post #6.

Ah, I looked last night but somehow missed it. So mine, for "Firmware Package Version" says "|". Is that normal? It's definitely not a 1. Other values are:

Main: 00.95
Main FBL: 00.18

Sub: 51100029
Sub FBL: 00.02

HDSDK: V1.12
HDBBP: C0004.200

Are any of those related to the firmware version? Do I actually have the latest?

If you are no longer getting a "Firmware Update" notice and the "Update Notification" setting (p. 114) is still set to YES, then the unit most likely has the latest firmware installed.

Guys,

I need help.

If this was covered before, I just couldn't find it in the thread starting at top, and for that I apologize.

I have a 1912 and am wondering if you *must* have an modem connected to a router to use Airplay? At home on my network, it worked perfectly.

I am trying to set up remotely, where an internet connection is not available. I have the 1912 connected to the router, and my iPhone on there too, but without an internet connection, I can't get the airplay icon on my phone.

Help?

Don't see why it wouldn't work, especially if, as you say, it's working for you at home in that configuration ...

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread/0_100#user_L1

At home, I'm connected to the internet through a modem. Here, I have neither internet nor modem. Just a router. Does my question make a little more sense now?

I understood the question the first time ... just misunderstood your home configuration .... an intranet.

I updated our new 3312 last night. Here are the values that changed.

Firm. Package Ver. 0011 from Ver. 0000
Main :00,96 from 00.95
GUI :50110092 from 50110091
Ethernet SBL :B201112221012-0A from B201107071124-0A
Ethernet IMG :I201204060821 from I201110190153

If I haven't made any transcription errors, those are the values that changed when I updated our 02/2012 build unit last night.

Between the time Internet access started working and when I did the firmware update, I turned the AVR to standby and back on at least twice. I didn't see a notice to update the firmware on the unit's display. The firmware update went without a hitch of any kind, and took a little less than the estimated 29 minutes. Each phase of the update was shown on the display.
Edited by htwaits - 6/29/12 at 10:28am

Noize4,
Is the router providing DHCP servies for your intranet? This is required for the 1912 and the iPhone to get IP addresses. If your 1912 does not have an IP address, then there is probably not a DHCP server on your intranet. Most routers will provide that service if it has not been turned off. You may need to connect an computer to your intranet to check the network configuration. I do not know but I would not expect that Internet access is required for Airplay.

Would just like to know the best connections with some new equipment. Panasonic ST50, Denon 1712 and Panny Blue Ray 110.
I just want to play BluRay/DVD through Denon with denon controlling audio format. Sound from TV going through Denon when using watching HBO, Pandora and streaming/watching Netflix and some occasional TV programming.

Am running an HDMI from the 110 to Denon(BD). I then to run HDMI from Denon(ARC) to the ST50 HDMI 2(ARC) and turn Denon on HDMI on? I also have optical going from Denon to TV. Have also ran Denon HDMI ARC to TV HDMI 3 with HDMI control set to off on Denon.

What should my input assign look like if I use this set-up? If I am mis-assigning my present assignment could it be a cause of my problem?

My concern is since adding the new TV I get quick intervals of loss of sound and loss of picture (or rainbow pixilization) at the beginning of rented DVD/BR's(redbox and netfix) with sometime complete loss of signal for a few seconds(check connection screen notice) that comes and goes. It seems to stop after the first several minutes of the movie and runs fine after that.. I have checked and changed out HDMI cables and used both HDMI 2 and 3 on the ST50 with similar results. I had the same setup with a Samsung DLP prior that didn't have an ARC slot and used a regular HDMI slot on the TV and the optical cable with no problem. Is there something in my connection set-up or settings in any/all three pieces of equipment that I am missing or doing wrong? A couple of personal DVDs don't seem to have this problem.

This strongly suggests to me that the problem is in the discs, not in the equipment. You might consider purchasing a new, unused, BD of a movie or concert that you like a lot to see if it has problems. If it does, then I'd suspect a problem in the player -- dust or mis-aligned optics. (Do not try to use a DVD player cleaner in a BD player. BD optics are closer to the disc than DVD optics and can be damaged by a DVD cleaner.)