The **OFFICIAL** Denon AVR-XX12 Model Owner's Thread - Page 487

Unfortunately no, I don't have another Denon mic that I can use. I'm hoping that's not the problem. My room is a bit problematic (long and narrow, with the sound system/display on one long wall and the seating position on the other, both at slight angles to the walls) but isn't that what Audyssey is designed to handle? Room correction? I've run Auto Setup 3 times and this is getting very frustrating. I'm tempted to just forgo Audyssey completely and manually configure with my SPL meter, but I'd *like* to use this feature of the 3312. Now, to just get it working.

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I've used the mic that was with my 3808 and same results though the 3808 didn't come up with similar results when I had that AVR connected.

I'm not sure if it will keep that info but I was pleasantly surprised that after doing a micro reset it retained the favorite internet radio stations i had saved.

Question: since I have my fronts L/R connected to an external amp do I have to make any different settings in the AVR?

Sorry, but no .. you'll have to reset the microprocessor to restore to factory default settings.

The 3808CI mic has a different configuration file than the 3312CI mic so best not to use it.

Nope. Just run AUTO SETUP as you normally would.

Crap. Thanks for the reply.

Was it a bad idea that I used the mic from my 1910, ie is there a different config file? I am not sure why the new mic will not complete the setup. I assumed it was defective.

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No, you're fine with the 1910 mic as all AVR-XX09 - XX12 models use the same DM-A409 mic while the XX08 models use the DM-A405 mic.

Is there an option on the 2112CI to change the volume control so it goes in increments of 1 instead of .5? I believe this option was on the AVR 790.

Sorry, but no. AFAIK, this feature has never been offered on a Denon AVR remote. If you press/hold the volume button down the volume will change much faster to get you in the ball park (if making a large change) ... then just tap the button to get it exactly where you want it.

Can you be more specific? The AVR doesn't set the channel levels for a specific surround format. What are your speaker and sub channel level settings after running AUTO SETUP? Are you using either a camera tripod or mic boom stand to hold the mic as is suggested in the AVR Owner's manual? Have you reviewed the Audyssey 101/FAQ guide linked in my sig for additional helpful setup information?

Yes, I'm using a tripod and yes, I reviewed the material. I can tell you that SOMETHING is changing the channel level for the 2 Channel Stereo/Direct mode setting described on page 110 of the manual, and it's not me:



These settings only affect 2 channel Stereo and Direct modes. After running Auto Setup my FL level here was set to +3.0dB and the FR was set to -7.0dB, so it appears to me that Audyssey is the culprit. Any thoughts?

Those settings should mirror the main AUTO SETUP settings, unless changed to "Custom" mode in which case you can manually change them to be different from the AUTO SETUP settings.

Custom was already selected when I viewed those settings for the first time as I attempted to troubleshoot why my FR channel level was so low in these two modes. I had never been on that menu page before and had not changed a thing. Weird huh?

I'll have to check when I get home this evening. Thanks for the suggestion.

I was originally going to purchase the 2112CI, but have recently come accross some budget issues. Now I am looking at the 1612. Obviously I will not have the bells & whistles that come with the 2112CI. But will the sound quality suffer dramtically because of power issues and Audyssey version. Currently, my setup includes RC-10s up front, RC-RCLR for center, and s10.3 for sub. Any unput is appreciated.

You should be fine with the 1612, although you'll lose the networking feature.

Having audio issues here is my problem, i have an lg 3d tv, directtv hr24, and the denon 3312ci. My problem is on only certain channels on directtv the audio comes through as very choppy! I tired the to turn the tv on then avr on then the sat and it stills does this please help! Works fine on certain channles thanks so much!

The issue is with how the channels broadcast the audio ... the AVR can't be expected to make up for crappy audio.

Through my tv it sounds decent I can at least make out what they are saying when on the denon the sound is like coming and going and up and down in volume! I mean it sounds terrible I won't be able to listen to this

Hello, I am new here. I bought an 3312ci last month.
I delayed in setting it up, and anyway I have 3 days left to return for full refund. They hav no more in stock.(amazon)
I am fighting with firmware update. I have spent 2 days researching this to no avail.
Read 100's of posts.
I found several instances of the issue, but no one who tells what the outcome was.
I am getting a notice There is a firmware update, when I try it, it tells me it will be 29 minutes... Proceed? And it does all this authenticating, rebooting and retrying, and eventually it gives me a error 25. I have plugged, unplugged, connected directly to my cable modem (no router). Micro reset, network card reset ... and it never updates.

It connects to my network fine(rhapsody works, pandora works, AirPlay works, internet radio works)
Denon had no advice except try another internet connection.
My internet has never been an issue, PC,MAC, 2 iPhones and iPad .
Or bring it in to Huntington Beach ca, facility (20 miles)

Anything else to try? Or takeit to repair facility or return it?
Thanks in advance.
-CJ-

So I am in the research process of my receiver upgrade (an older Yammy). I am working with a dealer that can get me a new 3312 or a new 2313 for about the same price (before anyone asks...i have no idea). Anyway the 3312 is a beast and it might be too much for my modest set up but it might be an offer too good to pass up. All things being equal what is the better buy in your expert opinions' (personally I am leaning to the 3312, though im sure i will not utilize it to its full capacity, but perhaps in the future??).

I considered the xx13 line, such as the 2313 and 3313, but chose the 3312. It was a bargain and I have no need for 4k, and I also wanted to keep PCM 2.0 to Zone 2 from digital sources. It was no brainer as the 'newer' set of features was not worth getting. If you are into aesthetics, the drop down door is a nice feature on the xx13.

My choices were:\
3312
2313
3313
4311

Went with 3312...glad I did although it was sad to refuse the 4311 box at my front door

Thanks for the response Im not in to aesthetics since the receiver will be housed on a rack in the equipment closet. Like I said Im with you the only thing the 13s had was the 4K (which, for the near future, I have no need for). Looks like it is the 3312 for me as well.

just got the 3312 into the rack and connected. Very very early impressions:

When they say that the inputs are assignable I don't think that they are using that term in the same manner as Onkyo uses it. I'm used to being able to connect my HDMI's to whatever input I want and then setting the particular input to a specific HDMI port on the back. For example, I could connect my PS3 to HDMI 4, and I can choose whatever input I want to correspond to HDMI 4. In going through the setup, it appears that the Denon makes you connect certain things to certain inputs. I believe it made me connect my STB to HDMI4 and I didn't have a choice.

Other very disappointing thing is that the AVR clicks when I mute the volume. I only had a chance to validate with Internet radio. I'm guessing that this will be the case for everything? Coming from a Yamaha RX-A1000 that thing never clicked.

More to come.

First, try bypassing the AVR and connect DTV direct to the television, in order to see if DTV dropouts is the problem. I've had periodic issues with low signal strength on some channels, so make sure your cables are high quality. DTV likes to put the signal strength right near the edge, in order to maximize their bandwidth.

Cglenn thanks for the response with directtv hooked no noticeable* sound issues also with directv hooked to avr with hdmi and the amp set to bypass sound to tv speakers no problems. The problems is with directv hooked to amp and setting the sound to rec. When you talk about checking cable strength which cables are you referring to? Thanks so much

The 3312CI is only 2lbs heavier than the 2313CI with both being virtually identical in size; however, feature wise the 3312CI offers more features.