The **OFFICIAL** Denon AVR-XX12 Model Owner's Thread - Page 508

Hey JD...I set the system up as suggested, with the optical switcher. But I'm only getting Pro Logic when i watch cable, and I know some of the movies etc are passing Dolby Digital.
Is there something in the avr settings I need to change, like turning off the ARC/pass through?

I think i figured it out--HDMI control needs to be set to "OFF" for this set up to work....And in doing so, I've lost the ability for the remote to not control the tv when the avr is on.

I can see why people go the arc/pass through/hdmi control route. For some reason the pass through wasn't working the way it should, but to me "working the way it should means" that the tv and cable would just turn on and would not require the avr to be turned on then off.

Wait, so Direct mode doesnt use Audyssey?! I thought it was only Pure Direct mode that didnt.

I know that bass management is a matter of preference and the fine tuning can be done via the denon avr menu but are there ideal settings for the knobs on the back of the subwoofer?

Mine has level (which i believe is akin to volume), crossover frequency and phase.

Also: does it make a difference whether the line comes into the left or right line in input?

Occasionally during movies the subwoofer will get very throaty/boomy, almost to the point where you can hear it shaking the hard wood floor. It's not a desirable sound

I suppose that can be tweaked via the amp button on the remote?

Crap, so that literally means I have to jump back and fourth between settings when Im say using my Apple TV and streaming Netflix with some sources being 2Ch and some being 5.1CH?! Because I dont really like the way 2CH stuff sounds when its "processed" as one of the other options in the Movies Audio selection list. Isnt there a way to tell the AVR just to decode what ever the input source is outputting? If its 2CH then its just 2 CH front left and right and if its DD 5.1 then its 5.1CH, etc. Im confused now...

If for some reason music is being distorted by the processing, then movie audio is being distorted in exactly the same way. Audyssey can't distinguish the two. It might be appropriate to try to find out what those distortions are and why they sound bad to you.

Note that you can disable Audyssey by itself without selecting Direct. If you do that, bass management would still be in effect (so low frequencies would go to the subwoofer), but the per-speaker room equalization processing would be off.

You have to go into the store to see if they have any inventory. Inventory is not listed on the website. I was in the Campbell Store and they had all the models in your list out on the shelves. They all had red tags indicating a special discounted price but the price was higher than the price in the list above. If you decide to buy one of the xx12 models, you should show them the price on Frys.com. They claim they will "match internet prices" so they should match their own site.

Be aware the Fry's may have two separate areas for displaying receivers. One area is an open shelf with all the receiver's lined up. The other is a "listening room" setup with dimmed lights and speakers all over. Make sure you check both areas for any receivers you are interested in. You may end up with an open box floor demo. From what I could see, the receivers in the listening room looked in good shape. The ones on the open shelf were kind of beat up.

I was thinking about getting a 2112 to replace my 789 with busted optical inputs but I decided to go with a $16 Toslink to coax converter instead.

I just got my AVR-3312CI back from repair because the HDMI board blew out.

Now everytime I want to use AirPlay I have to unlug and re plug in my AVR-3312CI.

Going on the internet I see many people are having the same issue.

I've tried using a static IP address but this does not help and my router has assigned one anyway. I tried a specific MAC address and that does not work too. I also tried removing everything else on my network and reconfiguring my entire network using QOS for fragments, UPNP on and off AND.... still you have to keep plugging and unplugging the Denon AVR-3312CI every time you want to stream music from a NAS or Air Play.

Since so many peoplpe are having this same issue is there a hardware or software fix that anyone is aware of? I have the latest software updates loaded.

Thank you,

hey guys i have had my 3312ci for about 6 months now. I have a baby on the way so i have only be able to purchase two rear speakers! I have the roomie remote app so i currently have my rec set to standby mode so i can control it with the roomie. Since i only have the two rear speakers hooked up i really dont use the unit that much yet for sound. I have my tv over the fireplace and i do use the hdmi output switches regularly. My question is how much more power does the unit use when in standby mode compared to be turned off completely. If it is a considerable amount is there anyway to have it in standby mode so i can control but turn it completely off when i am not using it for multiple hour (gone to work or sleep).
thanks so much

josh

The manual indicates it only uses 2.2W with either Network Standby or HDMI Control enabled.

Hi all,

My receiver is a Denon AVR-1712, and mixer is Yamaha MG82cx.

I have a problem of connecting them and need your help.

Here is my problem, it's mainly for karaoke purpose:

I run video/audio from my Nvidia video card to receiver's "BD" port through HDMI cable, then connect the receiver to the projector, this setup is perfect for watching movie.

Then I tried to add a mixer to the system, so I can enjoy karaoke sometimes. Here is what I do: I connect the mixer through 1/4" to RCA cable to the receiver to the audio port for the "BD". When I don't play any video, the microphone and mixer works fine. However, when I start to play a song on the PC, the mixer can't send any sound to the speakers. Apparently the receiver can't take 2 sources of audio input at same time.

Can I setup the receiver so that it take the audio from the mixer as well as from the PC at the same time? Or, how should I run all the connection to solve the problem?


Any inputs will be appreciated. Thank you very much.

Richard

Hi all,

My receiver is a Denon AVR-1712, and mixer is Yamaha MG82cx.

I have a problem of connecting them and need your help.

Here is my problem, it's mainly for karaoke purpose:

I run video/audio from my Nvidia video card to receiver's "BD" port through HDMI cable, then connect the receiver to the projector, this setup is perfect for watching movie.

Then I tried to add a mixer to the system, so I can enjoy karaoke sometimes. Here is what I do: I connect the mixer through 1/4" to RCA cable to the receiver to the audio port for the "BD". When I don't play any video, the microphone and mixer works fine. However, when I start to play a song on the PC, the sound of the microphone becomes extremely low and barely heard-able.

How can I setup the receiver so that it take the audio from the mixer as well as from the PC at the same time? Or, how should I run all the connection to solve the problem?


Any inputs will be appreciated. Thank you very much.

Richard
Edited by ncwyy2012 - 8/31/12 at 8:33pm

You're not going to be able to mix audio from two sources with an AVR. A couple solutions include:

(1) Pass the mixer audio to a 2nd set of stereo speakers (Zone 2) in the same room.
(2) Use Nvidia card with both HDMI and analog outputs and pass analog to the mixer first, then connect mixer to the AVR.

Thank you jdsmoothie,


for your (1) solution:
I have a 5.1 surround system at home right now, If I have a extra pair of speakers. I can have 7.1 surround while watching movie, and 5.1 + 2 speaker for mixer(zone 2) when Karaoke, is that correct? The other problem I may have is that the zone 2 option is based on the "surround back" can I move it to the "front" output?
I mean I want to put the two speaker for Karaoke at the front not the back. Can I do that?

(2) if I use analog output from the computer, is it still can be 5.1 surround? from my understanding the analog will lost all that surround sound features if go through analog. Am I right?

Again thank you for your input

(1) The Surr Back/Amp Assign speaker terminals default to "Zone 2". These speakers can be placed anywhere you choose as the audio going to them is coming from a different source than the audio coming from the FL/FR speakers. Placing them in the front however, you would have to just keep the 5.1 setup for your movie watching as they could not be used for Surr Back audio in that "front" location.

(2) The suggestion was to use a video card that can pass both HDMI and analog, such that the 5.1 audio would pass over the HDMI cable to the AVR and the stereo 2.0 audio would pass over the analog RCA cable to the mixer.

First I want to figure out how this "zone 2" thing works.

Can I use main zoom as 7.1 surround then zone 2 as 5.1+ 2speakers. Or it's not working this way? zone 2 is just another set of speakers won't merge with the existing 5.1 system?

Can I change the zone 2 default terminals to "front" from "surround back" so that I can put them at the front. I'm reading the manual and it looks like it's possible.

Thanks.

Also, i'm thinking,

If I set up the amp-assign to be "zone 2", what will happened if connected the "surround back" and "front" terminals to my front speakers at the same time?

When the extra set of speakers are connected to the "Surr Back/Amp Assign" speaker posts, they can be used as Surr Back speakers in a 7.1 setup (Amp Assign = Normal), and then if you change the Amp Assign setting to "Zone 2", and relocate the speakers to the front of the room, you could use them as Zone 2 speakers to pass the mixer audio (note however, that the vocals from the mic would only come from these two speakers as well).

On your second question, likely a bunch of distortion.

Yeah I tried it, it was a bad idea, for a moment I thought my receiver is burned. Not recommend anyone to do this in the future.

Thanks jdsmoothie, I think I'll go for the option to to get the analog audio through mixer. My video card can do that.

BTW, which receiver can take audio from both pc and mixer at the same time? Just for the future reference. Thanks

Brought down another TV today to get multiple football games going at once..

Main TV watching cable box hooked up to Game 2 input on 1912, playing audio thru speakers.

Second TV now hooked up to Xbox playing video thru watch ESPN app.

Question is how do i get audio from second TV to come out of main speakers and keep both video on screens?

I have an optical cable but I don't know if I need to run it from TV --> 1912 OR xbox -->1912? and how to program the video to stay on Game2 but use optical audio?

^^
You can't mix the audio from two sources with an AVR.

Above, also applies to you as well.

Hey guys, I got a little problem and would like some input. I'm in the process of setting up a small viewing/listening system in our bonus room and picked up a refurbed (by Denon) AVR-2312ci for a song. My problem is I'm getting a hum through my speakers. I've done some research and it sounds like a Ground Loop problem, but I can seem to isolate it. Right now, all I have plugged in is a Directv DVR, the Denon, and an LG LED TV. I don't have a sub right now and only have a pair of speakers connected for stereo sound. I've disconnected everything from the Denon and I still hear the hum trough the speakers.

My main system doesn't have a hum, so I'm not sure if it's really ground loop or just the refurbed receiver is a dog. Any suggestions.

Here is what I do to avoid needing to do that:

To disconnect the Denon from Airplay, on my Denon remote, I hit 'Amp' followed by 'Enter' followed by the left arrowhead ('<'). The display should return to a portion of the Net menu from the Net/USB function. From there, I select whatever function I now want. If I wish to choose Airplay again, on the Airplay source (usually my home computer), I must go into Airplay mode and toggle the Denon selector off and on so that iTunes knows to reconnect. This isn't quite as bad as it sounds because I can use the Remote app on my iPhone to work with iTunes on the computer.

If I forget to go through the AMP, Enter, < routine, the change works, but the UI freezes when I try to do anything more. It affects both the remote and the buttons on the faceplate. I can't even cause the Denon to go into standby. At that point, I need to to force a reset by unplugging the Denon and plugging it in.

It is a PITA and I'd appreciate knowing if there are other ways to cleanly have the Denon stop functioning as an Airplay speaker.

Regarding the 2 LFE/subwoofer outputs on 3312 or lower series AVR with .2 output, are the 2 connections in phase (same) or out of phase (180 like antimode)?

Both outputs are identical (ie. AVR simply uses "Y" internal splitter).

Try connecting the AVR to a different outlet. If using a power strip, try connecting directly to the outlet.