The **OFFICIAL** Denon AVR-XX12 Model Owner's Thread - Page 52

I completely agree, and I wish AVR manufacturers realized this and gave us more optical audio inputs.

My 3312 prompted for a firmware update today... it's updating right now. Is there any place to find release notes or some idea of what has been updated? The "most recent" listings on their Product Updates page are almost a year old.

How so, if you only have 1 HDMI on your television? I understand for those that have more than 1 HDMI on their TV this is alright and my next set that will be the case, but for right now I don't have this option. That is why I am little irked that I am having some of these issues. I did do a "reboot" of the microprocessor and now I am able to ge the menu up on my TV and the cable box to receiver and then to TV works fine. But for some reason I am still unable to then get my Blu(HDMI) and Xbox 360(component) to do the same of going to receiver and then just the HDMI out from the receiver. On the 360 perhaps it is something in the menu I would have to do, but on the Blu I did check when I had it hooked back up by component direct to tv that it does state the HDMI recognition(whatever it is called is on). What happened was I would designate of course Blu on the 2112 and then when I turned on my Sony S570 I got the initial BluRay symbol but then nothing. I did get audio but no picture from that point.

Just received my 3312 and trying to set everything up. A couple noob questions right off the bat. If theres a thread to where all this basic stuff is covered, id appreciate a link so that i wont be bothering you guys.

1-whats the best way to connect sat-avr-tv? the hdmi(arc) route or the optical link route? is the sequence:sat>avr>tv in both cases?
2-ive been reading that i need to turn hdmi control to "ON". how do i actually do that? is that found in an on screen menu? a button on the remote? i checked pg 109 but all it says is "turn hdmi control to ON" what am i missing here?

Well, if I won't make it work then yes, this is the only other option I have. The idea was to get rid of all components, optical and digital coaxial cables.

Pass through in stand by mode doesn't work for me, so I'll have to use HDMI DVR to TV and optical DVR to AVR.

It's in the menu under system setting or something like that. There is an option HDMI, you select that and it should lead you to more options like lip sync, HDMI on/off

or just make 1 HDMI work in the first place.

However, I agree that phasing out digital inputs like optical or coaxial at this stage just too early.

Review the first 6 posts in this thread as well as batpigs guide for general information, although it also doesn't hurt to review your Owner's manual as well.

1. The HDMI from SAT to AVR is the best option as it passes both video and audio to the AVR. If you get an HDMI handshake issue and it won't work correctly, then connect the HDMI from SAT to TV directly with optical from SAT to AVR (for HDMI 1.3 TV) or use ARC (HDMI 1.4 TV).

2. As p. 109 indicates, just set it to ON and set the Standby Source to the HDMI jack you want to pass through.

If you need more optical inputs for $10 you can get this 3:1 switch.

Yes, but haven't had time to play with it much yet, and this TV is not HDMI so when I do my experience won't help with a lot of issues people are having. Just did the basic setup last night, plugged in all the connections, ran the audyssey thing, and set my Harmony to control it for TV and BR. The rest of the connectivity is going to take more work since it's all very non-standard.

Sounds great, though!

Very much agreed. I wouldn't mind a couple more component inputs as well, although this is a temporary need that will go away sometime in the next year or so when I finally upgrade my component-only TV to something with HDMI.

It's easy enough to add extra component slots with an inexpensive switcher from monoprice, but the audio side is looking really complicated... hopefully I'll get it all ironed out this weekend.

I have the 2112 on a bedroom system that's all HDMI. No worries there.

I have a 3312 for the living room HT system with lots of legacy connections.

Is lossless audio available when using ARC?

Thanks for the reply! Im been psyched about getting this AVR and Im dying to get it going.


Tried both ways and they both work. No handshake issues, so I have both options available to me. In order to listen to music while watching tv, is the optical way the only way to do this? Also, connecting via the optical method, my avr volume or other menus dont display on the tv. Will these only appear via the hdmi method?
Do I need an hdmi connection from avr to tv to get the avr menus to appear on the tv?

Trust me, Ive read this whole thread a couple of times-promise, I did! lol. Will def reread your recommendations.

@kobe...

no... only the lossy codecs are supported... arc emulates a spdif connection...

heck yea!!! Thank you!

Hi DRGSin, go to Menu -> System Setup -> HDMI Setup - HDMI Control

1. If you want the menu to appear over the video, you can connect with either component video (3312CI only) or HDMI video. However, if you want to listen to another music source, it's better to connect with component video and optical for audio. You can then use the VIDEO SELECT setting under the music source to select the cable box.

2. Yes, you must go into the menu setup (System Setup - HDMI Setup - HDMI Control - Control) to set HDMI Control to ON.

Alright, thanks.

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ARC simply replaces the need for an optical cable from the TV, and TVs are only limited to DD 5.1 (a very few can pass DTS 5.1); however, it does so at the expense of having the AVR switch to the TV source whenever turned on, rather than to the last source used prior to going into standby ... so in some cases, some may prefer to use the optical cable from the TV instead to avoid that issue (especially if not using a programmable remote like a Harmony).

Any idea if the 3312 can be forced to convert inputs to 1080i instead of 1080p?

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If you refer to p. 93 in the Owner's manual you will note the various resolutions supported by the RESOLUTION setting to include 1080i.

Because my RPTV only does 1080i over component.

I can use an hdfury adapter to convert HDMI output (from the receiver) into 1080i component, but it doesn't convert the source signal resolution, it just takes whatever it was passed. I'd love it if I could connect an AppleTV2 (720p), etc., and run everything into the AVR via HDMI instead of doing the component dance I'm doing now, but the AVR would need to scale everything to 1080i for this to work.

I believe my DirecTV HD DVR can be set to output only a given resolution, but I hope my Panny BluRay can, too, and doesn't just try to output 1080p.

Thank you!

Except it won't worth with my Harmony One. All of my gear is in another room in a closet on the other side of the wall from my TV. Everything is controlled perfectly with my Harmony One and an IR repeater, and I love how it works today, and I'm not going to get up and go in the other room to switch an input.

I don't have the Denon unit yet, but I will be getting the 3312 very soon. It is one optical input short of what I need, but I think I've found a way to make it work anyway. Just trying making sure it'll all work before I pull the trigger. I'm running off an old Sony STRDA555ES from 10 years ago with 4 optical inputs.

The 3312 will be a really big leap forward for me — I just wish it had one or two more opticals, but they seem to be going out of fashion in a hurry these days.