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post #1561 of 17925
6/17/11 at 3:32pm
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can you not switch some devices to digital coax? there are a total of 4 SPDIF inputs on the 3312, and optical>coax converters are cheap.
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post #1562 of 17925
6/17/11 at 3:46pm
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can you not switch some devices to digital coax? there are a total of 4 SPDIF inputs on the 3312, and optical>coax converters are cheap.

Hey... duh! That'll work even better than what I was planning on! Thanks man!

Why didn't I think of that?
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post #1563 of 17925
6/17/11 at 4:04pm
Any word on what is affected by the 3312 update?
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post #1564 of 17925
6/17/11 at 4:12pm
Denon will be releasing the firmware changelog information soon.
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post #1565 of 17925
6/17/11 at 4:54pm
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Originally Posted by htpc-geek View Post

The 3312 will be a really big leap forward for me I just wish it had one or two more opticals, but they seem to be going out of fashion in a hurry these days.

You could always use something like this:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002GV876

It converts optical to coax, and is only $20. I used one of these for a year or two without issue. The only downside is that it's powered so you'll need another spot on your power strip.
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post #1566 of 17925
6/17/11 at 4:56pm
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hehe well now i feel pretty dumb. So i guess i had the hdmi handshake problem with my xbox to denon. So now i have the hdmi from xbox directly to tv, and i have an optical running from tv to denon for audio. Question is how do i get my 1912 to play the audio from the optical cable?
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post #1567 of 17925
6/17/11 at 5:07pm
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The way you have it currently configured, you would select the "TV" source on the 1912 which is what the optical input defaults to; however, the reason the xBox wasn't working was more likely a setting on the xBox rather than an HDMI handshake so you could actually try to get that connection to work correctly.
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post #1568 of 17925
6/17/11 at 5:11pm
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hehe well now i feel pretty dumb. So i guess i had the hdmi handshake problem with my xbox to denon. So now i have the hdmi from xbox directly to tv, and i have an optical running from tv to denon for audio. Question is how do i get my 1912 to play the audio from the optical cable?

Hi nuttybardude, I agree with jdsmoothie that its possible with a setting with the xbox (try a xbox reset).

Otherwise for audio from tv to receiver, use ARC (on panny) instead of optical cable.
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post #1569 of 17925
6/17/11 at 5:16pm
Hi,
I am considering the AVR-1912 or AVR-2112 and after a lot of research, and calling Denon, I cannot find the answers to the following:

Can I use my Universal Remote such as Harmony or URC MX-980 without any problems, after doing the programming?

How much heat does it generate? Can I install the Receiver in a ventilated cabinet with at least 8 clearance on top and 4 sides and back?

Did anyone compare the Onkyo TX-NR609 with Denon AVR-1912/AVR-2112, if so why did you prefer the Denon?
Thanks in advance
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post #1570 of 17925
6/17/11 at 5:19pm
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1. Yes, Harmony remotes work just fine with Denon AVRs. You can download your model from the Logitech data base.

2. Denon AVR's don't generally generate much heat (luke warm) so the amount of ventilation space you're providing is more than sufficient.

3. Nothing below the 709 will compare to Denon AVRs as they only use Audyssey 2EQ which has at least 1/2 the number of EQ filters and does no sub EQ.
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post #1571 of 17925
6/17/11 at 5:49pm
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Originally Posted by htpc-geek View Post

Except it won't worth with my Harmony One. All of my gear is in another room in a closet on the other side of the wall from my TV. Everything is controlled perfectly with my Harmony One and an IR repeater, and I love how it works today, and I'm not going to get up and go in the other room to switch an input.

I don't have the Denon unit yet, but I will be getting the 3312 very soon. It is one optical input short of what I need, but I think I've found a way to make it work anyway. Just trying making sure it'll all work before I pull the trigger. I'm running off an old Sony STRDA555ES from 10 years ago with 4 optical inputs.

The 3312 will be a really big leap forward for me I just wish it had one or two more opticals, but they seem to be going out of fashion in a hurry these days.

Coming from a Sony STRDA1000ES myself, I can pretty much promise you'll love the 3312.
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post #1572 of 17925
6/17/11 at 6:00pm
Do you think 599 is too much to pay for the 2112?
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post #1573 of 17925
6/17/11 at 6:26pm
Hi,

Thanks for the replies.

Another question, I have an iPhone 3GS and 400 or more songs and some music videos on iTunes. I am wondering if you can organize and play songs on iTunes so that the AVR-1912 or AVR-2112 so it can select a single playlist like; Favorites or Jazz or Rock, etc. If not, how does Airplay work on the Denon can you select groups or is it Play All or Select One Song and/or can you do random play?

My Equipment:
TV- 60 Pioneer PDP-6010FD w/Cable Card
PVR - Tivo S3 -- SD-1561 / HD-165 Hours
DVD - Sony DVP-NS75H
Blu-Ray DVD - Sony BDP-S550
A/V Recv - Sony STRDE945 (to be upgraded soon)
CD Player 300 CD's - Pioneer PDF1007
URC MX-980
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post #1574 of 17925
6/17/11 at 7:05pm
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Do you think 599 is too much to pay for the 2112?

Yes. Try Electronics Expo, and see what you can talk them down to (have to call it in, no net sales). With MSRP up $100 from before, you probably won't get the $399 deals others did, but you should still be able to do better than $599.
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post #1575 of 17925
6/17/11 at 7:06pm
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^^^^^ supie -- if you are using Airplay the Denon doesn't control anything, it just plays what you send it. It's effectively just a "speaker" for the iTunes content. All the control (e.g. selecting a playlist) will be done on your iPhone, iPad, or computer.

if you plug the iPhone into the USB port of the receiver, then you can navigate the GUI on your TV screen using the Denon remote and select artists, playlists, etc.

just depends on your preferred method of control.
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post #1576 of 17925
6/17/11 at 7:17pm
Are you able to use hdmi on any of your components?
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post #1577 of 17925
6/17/11 at 7:45pm
So i went out and bought a wireless gaming adapter for my 2112ci, and i can't seem to get a proper connection with it. I tried using a 2nd router as an access point and its giving me the same problems. With DHCP on, it gives me an ip address that isnt part of my dhcp pool and gives me a wrong subnet mask (255.255.000.000). I just can't seem to figure it out. The gaming adapter works fine with my 360 and PS3. (its a trendnet TEW-647GA)

[Edit]-I also tried setting a static ip and resetting the processor, with no luck. Some more info if its helpful: Im using a linksys e1200, with comcast internet.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks in advance
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post #1578 of 17925
6/17/11 at 7:59pm
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Originally Posted by Kalani View Post

Coming from a Sony STRDA1000ES myself, I can pretty much promise you'll love the 3312.

Great to hear! I've been wondering how much of a difference it really is. The ES Sony has been a trooper, but I know things have come a long way. I appreciate the reassurance.
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post #1579 of 17925
6/17/11 at 8:10pm
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it's not just the PS3, people have tested with other Blu-ray players. This would indicate that it's clipping BTB/WTW on any source.

Some of us are able to reproduce the full range (0-255) on TV's such as the VT30. I understand movies are pre-clipped but things like the PS3 games + gui and PC media centers are still in full range. I am not happy about this.
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post #1580 of 17925
6/17/11 at 8:38pm
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Do you think 599 is too much to pay for the 2112?

Electronics Expo quoted me $599 for the 2312 last week.
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post #1581 of 17925
6/17/11 at 8:53pm
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Coming from a Sony STRDA1000ES myself, I can pretty much promise you'll love the 3312.

I thought I was the only old guy here. Just upgraded from a strda30es to a 991 a few weeks ago. To he honest, it took a while to get used to the new more accurate sound after using audessey, but now I really do love it!
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post #1582 of 17925
6/17/11 at 9:11pm
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Electronics Expo quoted me $599 for the 2312 last week.

That's a sweet deal. I imagine you have to call to get this price??
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post #1583 of 17925
6/17/11 at 9:38pm
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Originally Posted by **OptimusPrime** View Post

Anyone do a video quality comparison from last years' models? I read a review that says the picture quality was "blurry" on a satellite feed though the 1912. However, no info on whether or not it was through HDMI or component cable.

With Father's Day coming soon, and my birthday right around the corner, I will be in receipt of several BB gift cards and RZ certificates...I am contemplating either the 1912 or the 2112 for my 7.1 setup. Anyone experience any kind of video issues on the 1912? My buddy has a 791, and says the video quality is outstanding. I am wondering how both these models compare.

Based on what I am reading in this thread, it seems that BB is overpriced on both the models I'm looking at. Suggestions?
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post #1584 of 17925
6/17/11 at 10:06pm
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Originally Posted by **OptimusPrime** View Post

With Father's Day coming soon, and my birthday right around the corner, I will be in receipt of several BB gift cards and RZ certificates...I am contemplating either the 1912 or the 2112 for my 7.1 setup. Anyone experience any kind of video issues on the 1912? My buddy has a 791, and says the video quality is outstanding. I am wondering how both these models compare.

Based on what I am reading in this thread, it seems that BB is overpriced on both the models I'm looking at. Suggestions?

That's my problem too, I'm limited to Best Buy. I got a 10% off coupon but the 2112ci is 649 at BB so it only brings it down to 584+tax
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post #1585 of 17925
6/17/11 at 10:46pm
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That's my problem too, I'm limited to Best Buy. I got a 10% off coupon but the 2112ci is 649 at BB so it only brings it down to 584+tax

You can negotiate them down. Should be able to et it down to 550-575 easily. They need. The business.
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post #1586 of 17925
6/17/11 at 11:35pm
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You can negotiate them down. Should be able to et it down to 550-575 easily. They need. The business.

Is that true?? I've asked about price matching. They used to do it, but I was recently told they can now only price match with "real" brick and mortar stores (and within a certain distance)...not online. If this can be done, I'm ready to wheel and deal.
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post #1587 of 17925
6/17/11 at 11:59pm
You can probably call Chris @ Cleveland Plasma (board sponsor up top) and he'll give you a better deal than anyone else
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post #1588 of 17925
6/18/11 at 12:38am
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post


1. The HDMI from SAT to AVR is the best option as it passes both video and audio to the AVR. If you get an HDMI handshake issue and it won't work correctly, then connect the HDMI from SAT to TV directly with optical from SAT to AVR (for HDMI 1.3 TV) or use ARC (HDMI 1.4 TV).

In the past, many TVs would only pass DD5.1 only from their own tuners and components over an optical connection to the receiver. Thus if you connected a cable box directly to a TV and an optical cable from the TV to the Denon, you would only get stereo sound even if cable box was sending DD5.1. Is this still a problem for TVs supporting ARC or will they now pass DD5.1 from any connected source to both ARC and the optical cable?
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post #1589 of 17925
6/18/11 at 1:22am
^^
Many will now pass DD 5.1 (and some even DTS 5.1) from any connected source.
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post #1590 of 17925
6/18/11 at 1:32am
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Originally Posted by **OptimusPrime** View Post

Based on what I am reading in this thread, it seems that BB is overpriced on both the models I'm looking at. Suggestions?

Overpriced? No, rather like most of the authorized resellers they sell at MSRP. Gift cards can be cashed in using this site.

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That's my problem too, I'm limited to Best Buy. I got a 10% off coupon but the 2112ci is 649 at BB so it only brings it down to 584+tax

Why does that limit you? Some authorized resellers offer from 20-30% discounts ... however, you must call them to get their best price.
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