The **OFFICIAL** Denon AVR-XX12 Model Owner's Thread - Page 537

I thank you and my family thanks you

I'll select Dolby TrueHD or DTS MA-HD or DTS HD on the BD before initiating playback and then sit back and enjoy the movie.

Airplay has been rock-solid for many weeks now.

I had posted about Airplay issues some time back. The Airplay option would disappear sometimes (seemingly when my PC on my LAN loaded Bonjour service).
But that was a red herring.

I'm glad to report that all issues with Airplay has been resolved by unchecking the "Disable IGMP Proxying" option on my Netgear router/switch.

Apple forums have other users reporting that toggling IGMP Proxy settings on their routers (other than Netgear, like Airport) also fixes the problem.

So, if you are having Airplay connectivity issues, consider
a) setting your router to factory default (remember to re-enable WPA/WPA2 encryption password on the WiFi connections!)
b) toggle the "IGMP Proxy" setting on the router.

JDS: Please consider adding this to the Section 11 a, b of your excellent FAQ.

Aloke

I've had an IGMP related note posted for a few months now but will edit it to include your additional information. Thanks.

I am having issues where the video and audio from my BD is cutting out for a second quite often. It seems to be even more common after I updated my 2112. Any advice?

This actually just happened to me connecting my PS3 to an HDMI switch yesterday, although changing to another input on the switch resolved the issue. Check to make sure the HDMI cable is securely fitted at both ends, and if still no joy, either try another HDMI input on the AVR or replace the cable.

I reseated the cables a few times and have not noticed it since but I don't like it. What is to keep it from happening again?

If you don't have reason to move the AVR (ie. no little ones, pets, or dusting down around the AVR) and ti happens again, you amy want to consider installing a locking HDMI adapter.

http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Echo-lock-Universal-HDMI/dp/B001QV2AKK

I reported this in apple forums and posted the resolution. What is interesting enough is: this setting only seems to affect 3rd party airplay devices. I have since bought an appletv and don't seem to have issues with that one if I keep IGMP enabled. In any case, I don't require IGMP proxying, but if your video requires it, you need to mess with other IGMP settings, such as enabling each individual device independently. Its a mystery, but at least it works!

I have a 2112ci connected to my DTV receiver HR24 (also tried a HR23 with same issue) and connected to my Sony TV, both via HDMI cables. The issue started on November 1st. I can no longer view PPV MOVIES. The TV shows black and then green flashes (like it's trying to complete the "HDMI handshake" but never does). ALLother DTV video works fine passing through the 2112, even movie trailers and the PPV "5 minute extended movie previews".

When I take the 2112 out of the equation and connect the DTV receiver directly to the TV the PPV movies can be viewed perfectly .

I absolutely changed nothing just before this started happening on 11/1.

I did do a Denon firmware upgrade on 11/2, hoping this would correct the issue, but it did not.

I called both Denon and DTV and each blamed the other for the problem (i was thinking that DTV might have started transmitting PPV movies in a different format as of 11/1 or with different CODES...but they said no...not that I believe them. I was hoping if that was indeed true, that Denon could provide a new upgrade to compensate for this.

If this is not a DTV issue, is it possible that some setting could have changed by itself within the 2112?

Any other ideas?

that should be "CODECS", not "CODES" above.

[SIZE]I just bought a refurb 1712 from accesories for less. Everything is perfect and I'm very impressed with the reciever overall. But I am having trouble with the sound coming out of the RF channel. Its either half way there or not there at all. After extensive trouble shooting. I found that if I wiggled on the hdmi cable going into the reciever that I could sometimes get the sound to come in full. So I tried a couple other cables and still had the same problem. all the cables I've tried are two to three years old. But in good condition. Should I buy a new cable to try or send it back for repair? It does this on ALL HDMI inputs as well.


Thanks for any help.



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that's odd... i'm struggling thinking of a way that could happen... from a "technical" standpoint, it doesn't make a lot of sense...

are you sure that when you are wiggling the cable that you aren't also jiggling the speaker wire?

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anyone know of any good deals on the 2112 going on right now?

I cant help but think its the old mono price cables?? At least I hope. I dont want to have to send it back and be with out it!

thing is, the way hdmi (or more technically tmds) works, it would be rather impossible for only a single channel of audio (or any audio, ftm) to be affected in that way... you'd have to be seeing video errors as well, and in all likelihood, the whole stream would fail, rather than partially work...

it's possible there's something moving around inside the avr when you wiggle the cable...

Hi all. I have a Denon avr 1912 and am experiencing some issues with audio delay. Was wondering if anyone here had any ideas of things to try.

So this delay seems to be present with all sources that I use - PS3(HDMI), Sky+(optical) and macbook (optical). The delay is not horrendous enough to render things unviewable. However, I use djing software called Traktor on the Macbook with an external soundcard (Native Instruments Audio DJ 4). This provides me with 2 sound outputs from the Macbook. Therefore I have a headphone output direct from the soundcard, and phono leads going into the amp.

Now, this delay issue means that the audio from the headphones is slightly ahead of that from the amp and speakers, making beatmatching impossible.

My thinking is that my issue could be solved either by delaying the headphone output using some mac software (I have searched hard for this, but have not found anything). Alternatively (and more ideally) I would be able to use some sort of settings on the avr 1912 to reduce/remove this delay. Is there anything I can try there?

Any ideas would be much appreciated. I have sifted through the internet and posts mentioning 'delay' on this thread, and have not found anything yet.

Thanks!

Check your local Best Buy and be ready to negotiate a bit. Mine had a 2112CI for $400 (open box) and I ended up with a new 3312 for $500 after pointing them to Fry's clearance prices. A 2312 would have been $400 (same as their 2112) but I wanted three zones. Fry's had no stock but I had an ongoing conversation with my store about a buy when Fry's had stock so YMMV.

Does Traktor allow you you to delay the audio per source? And if not, can you put one of the audio sources on the Denon as an A/V source and use audio delay to correct for the delay? I haven't used audio delay on the Denon so I don't know if it can go both positive and negative but that might be a way to get around the issue.

HDMI handshake issues are very common with cable/sat boxes. More than likely a firmware update to the HR24 is causing the problem. Connect the HR24 HDMI directly to the and HR24 optical to the AVR.

another update on this, the problem seems to be solved. after a few hours of trial and error on the ps3 "sound settings" with checking and unchecking boxes, trying a different outlet, different hdmi cable, different receiver input, and watching the first scene of avengers at least 20 times, i finally found the "BD audio out" setting under the video settings section. it was already on linear PCM, so i swapped to bitstream, and boom, no more noises. now, instead of the receiver saying 7.1 in, it says DTS-HD Master instead when watching avengers, is that normal?. After changing to bitstream, the ps3 had a message pop up that said something about changing to bitstream could prevent some audio from playing. will i be missing out on some audio because of this? i setup my speakers to be at the exact angles they should be, and would rather just buy a good BD player than possibly be missing out on some of the audio. thanks.

The HR24's last update was June 27. My systen has been running fine since January (until 11/1). Apparently DTV is rolling our a new update any day now. DTV says they started the rollout October 31 in the West and is moving it across the country to my Eastern Time Zone soon. I guess it's possible that DTV started transmitting PPV movies with a new CODEC on 11/1 and the new update (that I don't have yet) will fix the "issue" so the 2112 can push movies thru to the TV?????

well I spoke too soon during Avengers tonight video and audio started cutting out again after the kids watched several movies today with no issue.
Edited by redlightracerLS - 11/12/12 at 7:19am

Unfortunately, no- traktor has no delay function for different sources. So that won't allow me to delay the headphones.

As far as I can tell, the delay on the denon only goes into the positive, so I can't think of a configuration that could utilise that to solve the issue.

Thanks for the ideas though, got any more?

The "missing out of audio" part would apply to any BDP you purchased. The "bitstream" setting sends the uncompressed DD/DTS audio to the AVR to do the uncompressing (like unzipping a computer file) which is why the AVR displays the DD/DTS codec on the front panel display. When the BDP is set to LPCM/PCM, the BDP does the decoding to PCM and sends it to the AVR so the AVR never knows what the original file was (DD or DTS), rather only the uncompressed PCM file which is why the AVR display reads "Mult CH IN" or "Mult CH IN 7.1". When you "bitstream" the audio, the BDP (PS3 or other brand) is unable to pass the "secondary audio" (eg. Director's commentation while movie is playing). So if you're just watching the regular movie, you're not missing out on any audio when using the "bitstream" setting, the audio quality will be the same either way.

Thanks for the explanation! If I want to hear commentary, I'll just switch back to linear, which will probably be never anyway. On another note, during my trial and error, I noticed a big difference between 5.1 and 7.1. Specifically the early scene in avengers when the helicopter flies by the screen. With 5.1 it just sort of comes from the side, with 7.1, it comes from behind and then the side, a much better effect.

If you've never watched a movie with the Director's commentary, give it a go the next time you're watching one of your favorite movies as there is lots of interesting information discussed.

stupid question on my 1612 how can I get mp3 and ipod tracks to repeat? The manual was not very clear.. it seemed like I had to hold down a button?

The "Repeat" setting is discussed on p. 70 in the Owner's manual.

But I saw this yesterday

For iPod playback
All : All files are played repeatedly.
One : A file being played is played repeatedly.
OFF : Repeat playback mode is canceled.

As far if I checked right it did not say where to find the setting for it..

Oh wait I found it now under the settings, I wonder if a harmony remote might be better for me, seems like the 1612 remote was more of an afterthought :-/

I hope not all Denon remotes are like this