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See p. 59 in your Owner's manual to set the "Channel Select" setting to A+B.
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Thread Starter 
Kyphos - unfortunately there is no easy one button toggle... I strongly suggest a universal remote if you don't have one, a programmable model like a Harmony or URC will make this much easier.
post #16383 of 18979
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Originally Posted by mginster View Post

I have the Denon hard wired to a Linksys WRT-54G that is flashed with DD-WRT firmware to allow it to run in a repeater bridge mode. Other clients are stable hard wired to it, but I will try the static IP route soon.

@mginster,
I have my 2112 wired to a WRT-54GL, running Tomato (instead of DD-WRT). (There are two Fast-ethernet switches between the Denon and the Linky, but for all intents it's 'hard-wired'). I have both the Denon and the DeRemote apps on an iPhone4 and an iPad. My iDevices connect wirelessly to two different wireless networks, connected to a GigE backbone, which in turn connects to the Linky (which is my gateway router for my entire network, doing DHCP, DNS, QOS, etc). It's all been rock-solid: Airplay works fine, the iOS apps work fine. I've never had to reboot the Denon to get it back on the network. So it can be made to work reliably. When I first got the Denon, I configured Tomato's Static DHCP table to permanently assign an IP to it whenever it requests a DHCP lease. If you are seeing your AVR's IP change often, you might try doing the same on your DHCP server. Or even configure the Denon itself with a static IP (plus subnet, gateway, and DNS addresses). That might help too.

While troubleshooting another network issue, I've sniffed the traffic on my LAN and observed that the Denon is awfully chatty. It's constantly sending out SSDP messages (essentially advertising its presence on the LAN). That's how the iDevices can locate it. I don't know why your network might inhibit the discovery messages, but if it's messing them up, that could explain your difficulties.

Good luck!
Edited by kyphos - 12/11/12 at 6:27am
post #16384 of 18979
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

See p. 59 in your Owner's manual to set the "Channel Select" setting to A+B.

@jds - Yep - I've read pg 59 (and the entire manual). And batpig's excellent user guide. But I still can't figure out how to tell the 2112 to turn on the B speakers instead of the 5.1 A speakers. Or turn on both sets.

@batpig - I have a Harmony remote, and also an MX-500. But I have no clue what button presses to send to enable the B-speakers, and/or disable the 5.1 set of A-speakers. The Denon user guide (page 88) says something about setting the speakers "in advance". Don't know what that means..

Thanks.
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Thread Starter 
kyphos, if you have a Harmony, read this: http://batpigworld.com/wp/?p=106
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Originally Posted by kyphos View Post

@jds - Yep - I've read pg 59 (and the entire manual). And batpig's excellent user guide. But I still can't figure out how to tell the 2112 to turn on the B speakers instead of the 5.1 A speakers. Or turn on both sets.
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Turning on JUST the "Front B" Speakers (ie. no 5.1 setup) can be as easy as changing the surround mode to STEREO, if the "custom" setting you noted above for 2CH DIRECT/STEREO is set to "Front B". This of course presumes you won't be using the Front A speakers for STEREO listening. Otherwise, you'll need to go into the GUI menu and just change the AMP ASSIGN setting from "Front B" to "Zone 2" to turn the Front B speakers ON/OFF.
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Pandora Patch?

I tried to update the firmware on my 3312, but the new software apparently isn't out yet for this model. It should have been released for several of the xx13 models. Does anyone have an update on whether Denon has found a fix for this?

Thanks,
Ken
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Based on the information I listed in post #6 of this thread, the update for the 3312CI is due out sometime today. smile.gif
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Having a problem with my 3312 changing inputs during playback. It will switch from DVR to CD mode for example without hitting the remote randomly during viewing every couple of hours. Before I take it in for service was wondering if anyone else had this problem. I am connected to the network and have the Denon app not sure if that matters. Thanks for any advice.
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Turning on JUST the "Front B" Speakers (ie. no 5.1 setup) can be as easy as changing the surround mode to STEREO, if the "custom" setting you noted above for 2CH DIRECT/STEREO is set to "Front B". This of course presumes you won't be using the Front A speakers for STEREO listening. Otherwise, you'll need to go into the GUI menu and just change the AMP ASSIGN setting from "Front B" to "Zone 2" to turn the Front B speakers ON/OFF.


@jds,
Ah-ah!! So that's the secret. I would never have thought of changing the surround mode to activate the B speakers. Somewhat obscure, but then much of the Denon UI is obscure (inlcuding the tiny low-contrast lettering on the front panel).

Thanks for the tip. I'd never be able to persuade/teach my wife to go into the GUI, but putting the 2112 into stereo mode by hitting the DIRECT button (thus activating the other set of speakers) is an achieveable goal!
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

kyphos, if you have a Harmony, read this: http://batpigworld.com/wp/?p=106

@batpig,
I read your article. What a great suggestion - I have an old Harmony remote, which I use for teaching commands to my MX-500 (a much better universal remote, in my opinion). But I didn't know that older vintages of Denon receivers had dedicated A- and B-speaker buttons. I'll go looking in the Harmony database and see if I can locate an old model with those commands in its Harmony database. Then I can beam those two commands into the MX-500.

In a similar vein, I found that the DeRemote app for iPhone has buttons for A, B, and A+B speakers.

Thanks again, for this tip and all your user documentation.
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3312 heat issue.

I've been part of this thread for a while now and have read comments that the heat generated is due to video processing. AFAIK, I've turned off i/p scaler and in fact dont have any analog video sources (all connections are hdmi only) to the receiver, and yet it still gets really hot.

Anyone been able to keep the receiver relatively cool? I have it off and its still generating heat, which to me is wasting energy. I have it on network standby so I can control from ipad/remote.
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Hello all. I finally purchased the trendnet TEW-640mb wireless bridge to connect up to my AVR 2112. Connected it up to my computer, configured it according to the directions, and it appears to be connected to the network. Proceeded to connect it to my 2112, ran the network config/setup and it recognized it but when asked to connect to internet radio no sound. At this point I have re-configured the bridge, retested it several times, tried to connect up to denon to get the firmware updates and it does not connect. I did the manual network setup. Any suggestions?
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Based on the information I listed in post #6 of this thread, the update for the 3312CI is due out sometime today. smile.gif

Update for the 2312 released this morning and is working fine. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Seeker2 View Post

Update for the 2312 released this morning and is working fine. smile.gif

How long did it take to download and run the update? I.e., is it a quickie?
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Originally Posted by cglenn View Post

How long did it take to download and run the update? I.e., is it a quickie?

Ya, it didn't take long at all. Maybe 15 mins, and most of that was spent "Authenticating". Good luck!
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Originally Posted by swizzchard View Post

3312 heat issue.
I've been part of this thread for a while now and have read comments that the heat generated is due to video processing. AFAIK, I've turned off i/p scaler and in fact dont have any analog video sources (all connections are hdmi only) to the receiver, and yet it still gets really hot.
Anyone been able to keep the receiver relatively cool? I have it off and its still generating heat, which to me is wasting energy. I have it on network standby so I can control from ipad/remote.

Your best bet is to install an external fan. http://www.coolerguys.com/ho.html
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Updating my firmware on my 1912.

I can never tell any difference when the fw gets updated. It would be nice to know what changed or what bugs were fixed.

Still,.. If there's new fw I just have faith it's good.

For a little google search I see its a fix for pandora which I never use so I'm wasting me time for the most part doing the update but updated fw is upgraded fw. (Often)
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My 3312s stuck in the update loop. It keeps trying to update and says 3 mins.....2mins.....1min..... then powers off and back on and does the retry. need help. By the way I went to the Denon site to try and download the update and it did not recognize my Serial number. 1106613110 WTF. I was going to try and load the update via USB.
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Mine may be stuck too.

I noticed it go from 3 to 1 and back to 3 and it just did it again.

Damn,... I was going to watch a movie and I don't even like pandora.

This sux.

Still looping.

I guess I'll go to bed and hope it works out eventually. No ht joy for me today. mad.gif
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This update is going pretty much the same way the last one went for me. It's been trying for about 20 minutes and still hasn't been able to complete it. Just as a reminder for anyone else having this issue, if you unplug the network cable it will pause the update. Last time I just let it go overnight and it worked fine for me. I'll do the same thing tonight when I go to bed. At least I can watch TV again without re-configuring anything.
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Reset the router and unplugged the 3312ci and it still goes to Ether IMG 3min then 2min then 1 min, then back to 3 min. I am so worn out with this stuff. Give me a dumb old tube amp and a turntable. All of this internet connected junk is for the birds. Too many conflicts, too many hang ups, and just too complicated.
post #16403 of 18979
Same issues here... 2312 stuck in update doom loop. All other updates have been fine. Worst of all, my wife is nagging me about her "show" that starts in 30 minutes... I may have to abort if at all possible.
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Originally Posted by sakendrick View Post

Same issues here... 2312 stuck in update doom loop. All other updates have been fine. Worst of all, my wife is nagging me about her "show" that starts in 30 minutes... I may have to abort if at all possible.

^^ Unplug the network cord and it will pause the update...
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Same issue here....stick in firmware update mode.....help!
post #16406 of 18979
Same thing here. 45 minutes and still going. After about 40 minutes it started to display "update retry" and now back to EIMG.
I Had the same issue with the very first update after 2112 was released. After that I never did the firmware update the very first day the firmware is available. I usually would wait a week or so and then manually select the update. It would take 15 minutes to complete it.
This time I for some reason selected the update thinking that this type of issues probably resolved by now. Well... I should have waited. I guess their server cannot process the number of requests during the first day the firmware is out. That's why i probably do not experience issues with the update if I do it a week later.
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Originally Posted by ovrrdrive View Post

^^ Unplug the network cord and it will pause the update...

I tried that... no luck. Stayed in the loop, kept retrying even after several minutes of unplug. I also tried holding the power button, was able to shut off but every time I turn back on it continues to try to update whether network cable connected or not. I'm stuck (and in the dog house #angry wife)
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So glad I came here to read this thread. I'm also in update he'll and was about to destroy the AVR.
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I have the same issue here. Started the firmware upgrade 3 hrs ago and stuck now.
post #16410 of 18979
Unplug the network cable and do not plug it back. Watch Tv. Try to update tomorrow.

This is prime tv time in the US. Every Denon owner probably trying to update their receiver.
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