The **OFFICIAL** Denon AVR-XX12 Model Owner's Thread - Page 550

I did a network reset on mine and it's all back to normal. Mine reports back that there is no update now. It's worth a try...

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread#post_20422055

Network reset fixed mine too.

You will lose every bit of configuration unless you have it backed up. (1912 doesn't support backing up to my info but I believe it's still possible via a part of the network interface.... Not likely useful if you haven't backed it up before getting to this problem.)

I was confused when it said already updates afterwords till I read the update to 1912 has been pushed back.

I don't know how I could function without all the golden info in this thread. And I feel bad for owners of this gear who never heard of AVS.

-Brian

I am a big newb here..............

I am looking for a $300-500 receiver for a 5.1 system ( eventually).

I see a Denon 2112 refurb at AC4L for $400.......

My question...........does it have an AM tuner? I noticed on Batpig's xx13 initial post that the '13 models deleted the AM tuners, but i cannot see on the '12 initial post page if those models do, nor can I tell from the Denon 2112 home page.

AM tuner necessary for local broadcasts of sports ( high school, regional, etc).

I cant speak for the 2112, but I have the 3312 and it does have AM/FM, came with an antenna that I have never hooked up. (Using streaming instead)

Update: Looked at the back of the 2112 on the Denon site and it does in fact have an FM/AM input. (Look at the rear image, zoom in and look at bottom left corner of the image)
http://usa.denon.com/us/Product/Pages/ProductDetail.aspx?CatId=avreceivers(denonna)&PId=avr2112ci(denonna)

Thanks...............

Ahhhhh, back to normal, good job!

Yes .. the XX12 models all have the AM Tuner.

Please refer to post #16467 of this thread, above.

Please refer to post #16467 in this thread, above.

what seems to be my problem if I have a 3312 and I go to install the new update and it has been running for 25 minutes in the verification stage?

Thanks, Mr. Smoothie.........good to know.

Quick question concerning the 1912 and a Wii. I just completed a network reset to fix the update problem and I'm getting my quick selects set back up but I can't seem to use my sub on the input my Wii is using (DVD) connected with component cables. I pull up the channel level and no matter what I set the surround setting to (stereo/multi-channel/etc) there is only an option for front L/R but no sub level. I'm all but positive I had this option before I reset the receiver but now it's not there. Does anyone know what I'm overlooking to get this working?

edit: same thing with my media server. I'm definitely overlooking something... searching the OM for what it is though.

edit again: >_> so it's entirely possible I overlooked the LFE/LFE+Main sort of option... just maybe. Sorry everyone
Edited by Torviss - 12/14/12 at 12:03am

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If your front mains are set to SMALL (as they should be) there's no reason to have to use the LFE+Main setting.

I know that's the recommended setting according to the audyssey guys but I've tried it several times and mine just sounds better using 'large' and LFE+Main. I don't know if it's just my speakers or what, but I definitely lack midbass when I cut the bass out of the mains. I don't think that would be why he doesn't have sub on his outputs anyway because I have it in mine...

FYI -- Updated my 21112ci to the new firmware. Took 3 minutes as promised. First time I have updated firmware since having to take it back to the shop to have them manually update firmware to deal with the "Authenticating" error that previously prevented firmware updates.

Pandora service restored. Only thing I noticed was that when in Pandora, the GUI screen that shows the "now playing" says Internet Radio instead of Pandora.

I always thought that LFE+MAIN directed the low frequencies below the xover point of the SMALL speakers to the subwoofer. Wouldn't using "LFE ONLY" prevent the mains from doing that, or is your point merely that it is redundant?

What you describe is what happens when the normal crossover is working. In main plus LFE the idea is to overlap between the main speakers and the subs. The mains run full range and play however deep they play, the sub plays however high it is set to play, and you get a bass boost in the overlapping region. If the speakers are set to small, you can't get main plus lfe. LFE only also runs the mains full range, but does not overlap because the only signal the sub sees is from the LFE channel.

Beautiful... Just updated my 3312ci; 3 minutes as promised as well... Pandora is back!

Note: in case it was missed on the other thread I had started. Matt Good suggested changing the source from NET/USB to something else if you're having "Authenticating..." issues. Did that this morning (chose "Tuner") and the FW update started after ~1 minute of Authenticating.

Have you re-run the Audyssey set up? The network reset will erase the previous configuration. On my 2112 the sub is lost as you describe under some conditions, when the input is stereo for example, when there's no Audyssey file present.

So when all speakers are set to SMALL, then the LFE setting is either redundant or irrelevant, correct? That is what I had assumed. So when speakers are all set to small, LFE+MAIN if it is an available option, has no effect.

And now, having problems logging into to Pandora again...

Have had the intermittent no GUI in NET/USB mode, which is recurring again, and when I can get from Internet Radio to Pandora (this is exceedingly difficult to do without a GUI, as am not sure the key sequence to get to the Menu), when I try and log into Pandora, it goes into the "Do You Have a Pandora Account" question (I can see on the display of the AVR). It seems to have the User ID saved (although I can only see part of it in the display). Will have to try pulling the plug for awhile to see if I can get the GUI to come back...

I have reported to DENON through their "ask a question" section -- not sure if that is better/worse than calling Cust Service...

UPDATE: Shutting off power for 15 mins and turning on Receiver first followed by TV (as recommended in Known Problems posts) did bring back the UI, and was able to log back into Pandora -- it still had my User ID but not my password -- must have backed all the out to the point of it no longer remembering the password (don't know if this is different now than before the issue). Also the Pandora GUI now showing Pandora and not Internet Radio.
Edited by jon777 - 12/14/12 at 2:23pm

how often do you guys have problems with your networking receivers? i have the 1712 and was thinking about upgrading to one with airplay but i dont want these hassles you guys are going through

If you're thinking of a newer XX13 model, you would be better served posting in that thread as well.

Hey Guys,

I am trying to get my denon 2312 all squared away. I bought a Impact Acoustics IR repeater to control my components. I can control the receiver if I use the emitters. However, I would like to use the remote control jacks in the back. I have tried connecting the 3.5mm cable from the repeater to the back of the remote control IR IN. Nothing. Ideas?

I may have found the issue. I am using a 3.5mm stereo cable. Should I be using 3.5mm mono cable instead?

Yes, give that a try, although note that not all repeaters will work correctly.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread/0_100#user_J4

Yeah I seen that in the FAQ after posting my question. The mono stood out to me so figured that was the issue. Thanks. I will try to get a mono cable and see if it woks like the emitter.

Hassles? Never. I turned on the 3312 last night for the first time since last weekend to watch a BD and it automatically went to an update, then spent about 5 minutes installing it. But we could still use the receiver to skip thru previews while it updated.