The **OFFICIAL** Denon AVR-XX12 Model Owner's Thread - Page 560

As noted on p. 4 of the Owner's manual (below), there is no video upconversion featured on the 1612, rather the 1912 is the lowest model with that feature. Rather the Wii2HDMI is your best option.

I'm having zero issues (I have a 2312), I also had zero issues updating as for whatever reason the firmware update was good first time through, signed in, etc. However I'm not using it much b/c as I said if I'm at home near the receiver I'm just going to access my ripped CDs on my computer.

Thanks for reporting your lack of Pandora issues. Any other Pandora users also not experiencing any menu issues?

This amused me: Last night I was trying to get to sleep while the wife and kids were playing some video games on the living room system. I don't begrudge them their fun, but it was too loud in my room.

Since I had a chromebook computer within easy reach, I opened it up, brought up the web console for my 3312CI, and turned the volume down from -14.5 (!) to -30. A few seconds later I hear the wife ask "why did it suddenly get quiet?". Then I fell asleep.

Yes indeed ...a handy feature to be sure (also able to accomplish via smart phone app).

My phone was in another room. It's an android phone, and I've got two different apps on it to control the AVR as well as the ability to use the web control interface. It's an embarrassment of riches.

On another note: While I was bored at work the other day I started writing some code to parse the config file I happened to have saved on my work notebook. I've just done a few basics, and can see that interpreting the file format is going to be very time consuming if I wish to pursue it. I have only gone so far as to extract things like my rhapsody user ID and password (clear text ) and the labels for each input. In order to make meaningful progress, I'll have to go through an iterative process of "Make one change to configuration, save file, compare with old file to note location of difference". To be honest I'm just not interested enough to do it.

I read somewhere that it's better and/or preferred (can't remember exact wording) to connect a dvr directly to the TV instead of through the receiver. Any truth to this? If this is done then run an optical cable from the receiver to the TV for sound?

Yes, very much so. Cable/sat boxes are generally not HDCP certified and therefore can often wreak havic (audio and video) when connected to an AVR. In fact installers will often bypass the AVR to avoid any current or future HDMI handshake issues that are often caused by a firmware update to the cable/sat box. And no, with HDMI connected to the TV, connect box (optical) --> AVR (rather than TV(optical) --> AVR) for surround audio with no loss in quality as the best a cable/sat box can do is DD 5.1. Connecting TV(optical) --> AVR generally only provides stereo 2.0 audio from an HDMI source connected to the TV.

You sneaky devil!

That would make for a good commercial ad.

Got it. Thanks. I had to read the bold part a few times to understand it. All the arrows and parenthesis confused me.

Sorry ... the programming part in me ... makes more sense with a flow chart to me, but as long as you got it ... great!

Quick question.
Does anybody turn on cinema EQ?
How about d.Comp?

I currently leave both off when watching movies and listening to music.

Both are legacy settings whose features are similar to what Audyssey is doing. The Cinema EQ is rolling off the higher frequency audio as does the "Audyssey" setting and the D.comp setting (DD audio only) is similar to what Dyn Volume is doing. So you can leave these settings at their factory defaults of OFF.
Edited by jdsmoothie - 1/5/13 at 7:03am

Ok, thanks very much.

I did the update a few days ago, and ran Pandora right away. It worked as expected, logged me in, found my channels and played without problem. I've only used it twice since the update, but no problems yet on my 2112. No other menu item problems that I've noticed.

Thanks John. The issue some folks are having apparently involves the internet radio menu coming up when Pandora is selected or with some Pandora menu items being "grayed" out.

For some reason when I run the Audyssey, when it finishes it connects to Pandora and asks if everything is working, it makes the "click" sounds like it's switching inputs but no sound comes out. If I choose "yes" then it finishes the set up and "clicks" again and works fine. Minor, non-issue but strange.

One thing I have noticed that does bother me is whenever I switch channels or pause / unpause, the volume is soft then builds up to what it's set at. I wonder is there a way to disable that "feature"?

edit: Meant to add: do most people go with the HDMI --> TV + optical --> AVR method? I haven't noticed any issues, but then I've only had my set up

Holly molly! This is why I read the AVS Forum. I just did that. Makes my AVR SO much more easy to use since my 2112ci's remote is 'meh'.

Navigated to my AVR via my laptop and BAM! so easy.

Thanks!!

Assuming you're speaking of cable boxes (or satellite box) I use optical (or coaxial as available)

Cable box --> HDMI --> TV
Cable box --> optical --> AVR

Eliminated a world of issues when I just left the AVR out of the audio/video stream.

When I did that I had huge audio lag issues. Also, my TV only has one working HDMI port so that is difficult as I think the HDMI switch introduced more lag.

Whats the easiest way to get spotify working on the 2112 with just a PC or wireless Android Tabel without paying a monthly fee?

Better or Preferred, I would say no. For one you have an extra cable going to your tv which will bother some who do not have cable management going to your tv and the other and more important you will loose volume display for your avr on your tv as well as Gui overlay a big feature for most. I have had two dvr for over 2 yrs. without any issue. For those who have problems it may be the only work around.

Of course the other workaround is optical audio and component video to the receiver from the cable box, as long as the receiver has component to HDMI conversion (1712 does not) and as long as the cable box can still output 720p and 1080i over component and the cable company allows all shows to be transmitted in hi-def over component (not sure when the "analog sunset" applies to cable boxes). This way you still get the GUI over the cable box signal. Obviously you don't get audio return channel this way.

I have a 1912 and wondered if anybody else has experienced this, it's not really a big deal but I am curious if it's a fault in my particular avr or not.

I have my htpc connected to my 1912 to watch movies via hdmi. When I pause a movie (using powerdvd 12) the avr will start playing pandora (Pandora in the avr, not off the htpc) at very low volume, just barely audible, after a movie has been paused for a minute or two. Any ideas why it would be doing this?

At some point were you playing Pandora, and then, rather then actually turning it OFF, simply selected another source?

Yes, that's what I meant. (also, the last part of my post got cut off for some reason).

I've only had my new setup a short time (Pansonic GT50, Denon 2312) so HDMI is new to me.
Previously I used component and optical cables because my TV and old Denon didn't have HDMI.

What exactly is the issue(s) one might encounter with the cable box --> hdmi --> avr? Video / audio glitching?

The issue is probably handshaking with the HDMI. I haven't had the problem yet on my cable box, but I remember in the past the PS3 always caused problems on my Onkyo. When you get an issue you will tear your hair out trying to get HDMI working again. Though I bet the fix if it ever happens is remove all HDMI cables from everything and factory reset the receiver.

Thats exactly what I do but why would I hear it faintly when I'm using an hdmi input and only when that input has stopped making any sounds for a few minutes?

Try actually stopping Pandora as noted below and see if the issue is resolved.

HI,
I've been running an AVR-3312CI w/o just 2 speakers. Just added a lava LPS08 subwoofer, but can't get it to work using the LFE out of the AVR.

I"m using the output in the pre-amp bank of RCA-jacks labelled SW. On the sub, the off/auto/on switch is set to the "on position"

Here's what I've done:
Reset to factory defaults, run the installation wizard, so that includes speaker setup. All connected speakers (L, R, Sub) go through the tone sequence but when I play a dolby 5.1 movie, nothing comes out of sub.

Unplug the input from the AVR and touch center & outer conductor. Subwoofer hums/crackles. (second confirmation that the sub is working via the low-level input)

When I connect the high-level AVR L & R inputs to the sub's high-level inputs and I get some good bass out of it. With the x-over set to 250 Hz, I could hear some of the audio, at 40 Hz, just the low rumbles (as expected)

Remove the high-level connections and return to the LFE output, re-run Audyssey all connected speakers go through the tone sequence.

Go to system setup => speaker setup => speaker config and see: Front Large, Subwoofer Yes. (as expected), so Audyssey "sees" the sub. Check the Bass Setting: Subwoofer Mode LFE, LPF for LFE: 120 Hz.

Change to Front Small, LPF for LFE 80 Hz as I've seen JDSmoothie recommend in a couple of posts. (Now the x-over on the speaker isn't relevant b/c the AVR is doing the filtering).

Still don't hear any output from the sub.

I've gone though some (but not all, sorry) of this thread searching for "sub" and didn't see this issue. I plan to call 855 my.denon, but they are closed and I'm pretty sure folks here know the system as well or better than they do.

Any tips on what to try next are appreciated. Pretty sure it is in the AVR - anyone think it is a subwoofer problem?

Thanks!

ANSWER: (Duh!) Change the Bass Setting from Subwoofer mode LFE to LFE + Main.
Edited by dragonboater22 - 1/11/13 at 3:09pm