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post #17101 of 18955
IDK the stereo mode, but the other two bypass all processing, which means they bypass bass management. If you just set the system yup to play what comes in, without the more esoteric-ish modes, you should reengage bass management (and Audyssey).
post #17102 of 18955
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Originally Posted by mikelleen View Post

How to send stereo source (CD playing on DVD) to sub?

On my new 3312 I have my Panasonic 3D BD player connected to the BD input via hdmi.

I am using Kef Q300 bookshelf speakers as my main F.R. speakers.

When I play a CD in my BD player, selecting "stereo" as the surround mode, I'd like to have my sub on for low frequency enhancement. Still having the mains playing stereo.

I cannot gwt the sub to come on playing the CD from the BD player using stereo, direct, pure direct surround modes.

What am I doing wrong? Any ideas?

Thanks in advance!

Go into your speaker setup settings and select LFE+MAIN.... Plus, are the speakers set to 'SMALL'? That is important IIRC, but someone can correct me on that part if I am wrong



However, I seem to recall a setting that isn't so universal, but only for stereo mode. Just dig in these menus and you'll find it-i did.
post #17103 of 18955
LFE+Main is only relevant if you FL and FR speakers are full range, determined by Audyessy, and are set to Large.
post #17104 of 18955
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikelleen View Post

How to send stereo source (CD playing on DVD) to sub?

On my new 3312 I have my Panasonic 3D BD player connected to the BD input via hdmi.

I am using Kef Q300 bookshelf speakers as my main F.R. speakers.

When I play a CD in my BD player, selecting "stereo" as the surround mode, I'd like to have my sub on for low frequency enhancement. Still having the mains playing stereo.

I cannot gwt the sub to come on playing the CD from the BD player using stereo, direct, pure direct surround modes.

What am I doing wrong? Any ideas?

Thanks in advance!

After running Audyssey, if the AVR sets your speakers to LARGE, reset them to SMALL/80Hz in the "Manual Setup" section. This will ensure that when receiving a stereo 2.0 signal, the lower frequencies below 80Hz will pass to the sub.
post #17105 of 18955
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

After running Audyssey, if the AVR sets your speakers to LARGE, reset them to SMALL/80Hz in the "Manual Setup" section. This will ensure that when receiving a stereo 2.0 signal, the lower frequencies below 80Hz will pass to the sub.
Ok thanks, will try tonoght and post back on results. I'm sure that will likely resolve this.
post #17106 of 18955
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

After running Audyssey, if the AVR sets your speakers to LARGE, reset them to SMALL/80Hz in the "Manual Setup" section. This will ensure that when receiving a stereo 2.0 signal, the lower frequencies below 80Hz will pass to the sub.
This worked thanks!
post #17107 of 18955
I am looking for a receiver for my brother and wondering where to find a good deal on a 2112ci for similar??
post #17108 of 18955
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Originally Posted by mikelleen View Post

This worked thanks!

Quote:
Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

After running Audyssey, if the AVR sets your speakers to LARGE, reset them to SMALL/80Hz in the "Manual Setup" section. This will ensure that when receiving a stereo 2.0 signal, the lower frequencies below 80Hz will pass to the sub.

P.S. to this issue. After following JD's advise. I saw the link to the Audysey 101/faq/gudie I'm his signature and read that article.
My understanding of my system an proper configuration is now SIGNIFICANTLY improved.
It answered so many questions and was so informative I suggest all new Audysey users read it.
Additionally it only took about 30 minutes to read thru the Audysey 101 portion.

Thanks JD!
post #17109 of 18955
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Suburban1 View Post

I am looking for a receiver for my brother and wondering where to find a good deal on a 2112ci for similar??

since this model is discontinued it's going to be hard to find new. They do have refurbs available though.

that said, there is a good deal on a refurb 2113ci at accessories4less for only $419 with free shipping: http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/DENAVR2113CI/DENON-AVR-2113CI-7.1ch-Networking-Receiver-w/AirPlay-3D-Ready/1.html


Same price as the 2112 refurb (actually cheaper when you factor in the free shipping) and it's a newer model. A4L is an authorized refurb dealer so you get a full 1 year warranty.
post #17110 of 18955
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikelleen View Post


P.S. to this issue. After following JD's advise. I saw the link to the Audysey 101/faq/gudie I'm his signature and read that article.
My understanding of my system an proper configuration is now SIGNIFICANTLY improved.
It answered so many questions and was so informative I suggest all new Audysey users read it.
Additionally it only took about 30 minutes to read thru the Audysey 101 portion.

Thanks JD!

Glad you took the time to read it (as anyone who wants the best audio from their setup should as well). It was put together by member kbarnes701 and is a summary of the roughly 50 most asked questions in the Official Audyssey thread.
post #17111 of 18955
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Originally Posted by Suburban1 View Post

I am looking for a receiver for my brother and wondering where to find a good deal on a 2112ci for similar??

For a great deal on the newer model 2113CI see my post in the Great Deals thread.
post #17112 of 18955
Hey All,

I've had the Denon 1912 for about over year now, and really have had no issues with it until recently. For whatever reason, the receiver doesn't want to connect to the internet/ Airplay anymore. I have been rocking the Airplay/ Network connection since I first got the Denon in September of 2011, with little to no issues. I had a Ethernet cable plugged directly into the recover through my wireless router (which was in turn connected to my Cable Router), but the other day I had to do a little Home Theater rewiring for my new TV setup and since then, the receiver simply won't connect. I have tried different cables, powered on/off the equipment, and even run the Network Wizard to connect to the network Automatically (I get stuck on the "Press the Internet Radio Button", because I press it and nothing happens).

I still see the Airplay icon show up on my iTunes/ iPhone/ iPad interfaces, and can check the internet for a Firmware update, but when I actually try to run music through the network, it stalls. Everything about the connections/ setup are the same, only they were unplugged from the system for 15-20 minutes.

Any ideas?
post #17113 of 18955
Hi, I have the AVR-1912. I have my cable box, component out to the receiver in. I have the HDMI out to the tv. Works. But unless I connect the sound from the cable box to the receivers sat/cbl left and right (composite cable), I don't get any sound. Ok. That makes sense.

But what I want to do is run the video into the component, hdmi out, and Optical from the cable to the optical in of the amp. I don't want to use the old L/R rca composite cables. The sound is very low.

I hope that makes sense. I want the component video in, hdmi out, but the sound from the cable be the sole sound source. So far i can't do that. If I put the cable box on TV I get the optical sound but no picture. If I put it on sat/cbl, I don't get the optical sound but the sound from the rca cable.

How can I get rid of the L/R? Is HDMI the only way?

Thanks for any help.
post #17114 of 18955
You have to read the manual and assign the inputs correctly.

It will definitely work.

Press the Setup button on the remote

Go to Inputs

Digital Assign

Select CBL/SAT

Right now it probably says NONE

Use the left or right arrow button until it says OPTICAL

hit ENTER and you're done.
post #17115 of 18955
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Originally Posted by imcclarr View Post

Hey All,

I've had the Denon 1912 for about over year now, and really have had no issues with it until recently. For whatever reason, the receiver doesn't want to connect to the internet/ Airplay anymore. I have been rocking the Airplay/ Network connection since I first got the Denon in September of 2011, with little to no issues. I had a Ethernet cable plugged directly into the recover through my wireless router (which was in turn connected to my Cable Router), but the other day I had to do a little Home Theater rewiring for my new TV setup and since then, the receiver simply won't connect. I have tried different cables, powered on/off the equipment, and even run the Network Wizard to connect to the network Automatically (I get stuck on the "Press the Internet Radio Button", because I press it and nothing happens).

I still see the Airplay icon show up on my iTunes/ iPhone/ iPad interfaces, and can check the internet for a Firmware update, but when I actually try to run music through the network, it stalls. Everything about the connections/ setup are the same, only they were unplugged from the system for 15-20 minutes.

Any ideas?

Possibly an IP address conflict with the new smart TV. Try resetting the router. You may also want to try setting DHCP to OFF (p. 88) and assign a dedicated IP address.
post #17116 of 18955
About a week after setting my 1712 to allow HDMI passthough to my Samsung plasma, it started doing something strange. Now, when I change the volume up or down, with the AVR on, I get 2 or 3 different GUI images on the screen at the same time. At first I would only get the AVR's Master Volume display, now I get that plus another volume bar and a 3rd vertical volume bar on the left of the screen. They all show simultaneously and they flicker on/off quickly, even if I hold the volume button down.

Any ideas? Should I look at an HDMI setting on my TV? Strange how it started out of the blue 1-2 weeks after I hooked it up.

Also, I'm not able to turn all devices on/off at once, although the Denon remote was able to control my TV and DirecTV box immediately with no tweaking.
post #17117 of 18955
The TV's volume display is caused by having the HDMI-CEC (Anynet+) setting enabled on the TV. Set it to OFF.
post #17118 of 18955
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

The TV's volume display is caused by having the HDMI-CEC (Anynet+) setting enabled on the TV. Set it to OFF.

Thank you, sir! Confirmed my suspicions. Could this also affect auto on/off of the AVR/TV/SAT?
post #17119 of 18955
Thread Starter 
Yes it probably will. That's the problem with HDMI-CEC, it giveth but it also taketh away frown.gif
post #17120 of 18955
Quote:
Originally Posted by likemovies View Post

Hi, I have the AVR-1912. I have my cable box, component out to the receiver in. I have the HDMI out to the tv. Works. But unless I connect the sound from the cable box to the receivers sat/cbl left and right (composite cable), I don't get any sound. Ok. That makes sense.

But what I want to do is run the video into the component, hdmi out, and Optical from the cable to the optical in of the amp. I don't want to use the old L/R rca composite cables. The sound is very low.

I hope that makes sense. I want the component video in, hdmi out, but the sound from the cable be the sole sound source. So far i can't do that. If I put the cable box on TV I get the optical sound but no picture. If I put it on sat/cbl, I don't get the optical sound but the sound from the rca cable.

How can I get rid of the L/R? Is HDMI the only way?

Thanks for any help.

The input assign /Optical as noted by the OP

Input mode/ Digital

Also if you ever want too, their is a Source Level to even out your Analog and Digital volumes by input.
post #17121 of 18955
Quote:
Originally Posted by imcclarr View Post

Hey All,

I've had the Denon 1912 for about over year now, and really have had no issues with it until recently. For whatever reason, the receiver doesn't want to connect to the internet/ Airplay anymore. I have been rocking the Airplay/ Network connection since I first got the Denon in September of 2011, with little to no issues. I had a Ethernet cable plugged directly into the recover through my wireless router (which was in turn connected to my Cable Router), but the other day I had to do a little Home Theater rewiring for my new TV setup and since then, the receiver simply won't connect. I have tried different cables, powered on/off the equipment, and even run the Network Wizard to connect to the network Automatically (I get stuck on the "Press the Internet Radio Button", because I press it and nothing happens).

I still see the Airplay icon show up on my iTunes/ iPhone/ iPad interfaces, and can check the internet for a Firmware update, but when I actually try to run music through the network, it stalls. Everything about the connections/ setup are the same, only they were unplugged from the system for 15-20 minutes.

Any ideas?

Look at your router and see if the device is connected. You will the MAC address and the IP address. Try and ping it from a PC to see if it is really there. If your device is missing look at the logs on the router. Turn off the Denon. Turn off the router. Wait a minute. Turn on the router. Wait until the computers inside the house can connect to the Internet again. Then turn on the Denon. See what happens. View logs to diagnosis, in case there is a problem.
post #17122 of 18955
I have a 1612 hooked up to an Apple TV by HDMI, which works beautifully, but occasionally I watch TV OTA and I have an audio delay problem that I can't seem to fix. The TV (LG CS570, 42") is connected to an antenna and then the receiver is connected by an optical cable. Even though I am not using the ARC feature, the TV is aware of the receiver, through Simplink, for what that's worth.

I have the audio delay on the receiver set to 0, I have also tried turning the lip sync option on or off. I've searched around, but I can't seem to find any suggestions to fix this.
post #17123 of 18955
I was playing around with my year old 2112 the other day and noticed when I switched off my sub from the AVR and set my fronts (Klipsch RF-82) to large full range it sounded better. It had more bass than with a sub. So I decided it was time to replace my old JBL 10" sub. I picked up a Klipsch SW-450 Subwoofer to go with my two fronts that I have owned for a few years. After hooking it up and playing with it for a few days, I liked the way it sounded but still the fronts sounded as good or better without a sub as long as I set them to large full range. When I turned on the sub it took all the bass from the fronts. So I got to thinking how could I get my fronts and my sub both to play bass instead of one or the other. So what I did was run wire from my fronts to the speaker level in terminals on the sub and BAM a much fuller warmer sound with all the bass you can stand. I just thought I would post this for people that have towers that may want more bass without running two subs. Sounds great to my family and my ears. I always thought it sounded like something was lacking and a little bright before I did this!
post #17124 of 18955
If you're happiest with bass coming from both your sub and your mains, that's what the "LFE + Main" setting is for. You don't need to change the wiring.
post #17125 of 18955
Quote:
Originally Posted by uolmir View Post

I have a 1612 hooked up to an Apple TV by HDMI, which works beautifully, but occasionally I watch TV OTA and I have an audio delay problem that I can't seem to fix. The TV (LG CS570, 42") is connected to an antenna and then the receiver is connected by an optical cable. Even though I am not using the ARC feature, the TV is aware of the receiver, through Simplink, for what that's worth.

I have the audio delay on the receiver set to 0, I have also tried turning the lip sync option on or off. I've searched around, but I can't seem to find any suggestions to fix this.
Generally the audio is ahead of the video which is when the Audio Delay setting on the AVR can be used; however, you're saying the the video is ahead of the audio? If yes, try turning on some video processing on the TV to slow the video signal down.
Edited by jdsmoothie - 2/9/13 at 12:43pm
post #17126 of 18955
LFE + Main didn't send the amount of bass to the fronts like turning off the sub does, on my unit anyway
post #17127 of 18955
LFE+MAIN only works when the front mains are set to LARGE ... as the other JD notes, doing so will then pass the lower frequencies from the FL/FR speakers to the sub which is the intended result you're after (ie. double bass).
post #17128 of 18955
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

LFE+MAIN only works when the front mains are set to LARGE ... as the other JD notes, doing so will then pass the lower frequencies from the FL/FR speakers to the sub which is the intended result you're after (ie. double bass).
I know its suspose to but theres very little bass from the fronts. I owned two HK units in the past and they worked that way but this Denon sends very little bass to the fronts unless the sub setting is off. I have played with it for over a year. I know all about the small vs large settings and double bass
post #17129 of 18955
Then there is apparently an issue with your unit. frown.gif With the FL/FR speakers set to LARGE, did you raise their crossover settings up to at least 80Hz?
post #17130 of 18955
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Then there is apparently an issue with your unit. frown.gif With the FL/FR speakers set to LARGE, did you raise their crossover settings up to at least 80Hz?
Yes JD. If my unit is defective it will be the third one. I’m the guy that retuned all those units that had the NET/USB GUI not showing. and I still have that issue. Wait when there large there full band so no.But I did when I had them set to small.
Edited by J e f f - 2/9/13 at 2:16pm
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