The **OFFICIAL** Denon AVR-XX12 Model Owner's Thread - Page 578

So can someone tell me if I am SOL.

I have a nearly new 2112 (2 months old).

Inputs:
WiiU
Roku
AppleTV
SA HD DVR

Output to Panny plasma.

So I have been having video issues as of yesterday. I thought it might be HDCP so I did the reset where everything is unplugged, etc. When I plug my cable box directly into TV, it shows HDCP, so it looks like it's at fault.

But, when I unplug everything and plug them in one at a time (power and HDMI), I don't get video. For example, I plug in ATV first and no video. Same with Roku. DVR is not even plugged in at this point. BUT, the WiiU shows video. Strange, right? Thoughts anyone?

Check to see if the DVR recently got a firwmare update. Best configuration to avoid HDMI handshake is DVR (HDMI) to the TV with DVR(optical) to the AVR.

Thanks for responding

I understand that part, but when nothing other than the ATV or Roku is plugged in, those should work right? The fact that I can't get those to work independent of the DVR is what is vexing me.

Try powering on the TV first, wait a few sec, then AVR, wait a few sec, then ATV or Roku. You may also want to try plugging in to each of the HDMI input jacks and see if one works better than another.

Well, I swapped in the surge protector from my second system, and all has been well all day. I've been playing some kind of sound or another pretty much continuously through the 2312 since about 8AM this morning (at various points quite loudly) with zero issues.

Makes me think I should replace most of my ancient surge protectors around the house or do a whole house one like JD suggested.

Can someone recommend how I can check if any of my speakers are the culprit here? If one of the speakers caused my 3312 amp to fry, how can I test to verify which one might have a short? Speak connections are solid.

Just wanted to let you know that I pushed some very inefficient speakers today with my AVR3312ci.

KEF LS50
85db sensitivity

I couldn't wait any longer to fire these up (waiting on an integrated for another room)

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1459046/kef-ls50-anniversary-model-unboxing#post_23006252

I'm hoping someone has the answer for this. I searched and could not find the exact issue anywhere in this forum, so sorry if I missed it.

I bought an Apple TV yesterday but cannot get it to work through my 2112 AVR. I've tried 3 different HDMI cables and three different HDMI inputs on back of the AVR (V.AUX, Game 1 & Game 2, the other inputs are occupied by my DirecTV box, Blue Ray player and VCR/DVD combo deck), but all I get is a blank screen. I don't get a "no input" message on the TV, so it makes me think it is sensing something is there (or maybe it's just seeing the AVR?). If I connect the HDMI 2 output from the Apple TV box directly to my Panasonic Plasma TV it works beautifully. All three HDMI cables work in this configuration as well. I can hear sound fine via the ARC back to the AVR, but I think this is limited to a stereo signal? Does the Apple TV output multi-channel Dolby or DTS audio? If so then I'd like to expend a little more effort to try and get this gadget working through the 2112.

I've tried disconnecting the power from both the AVR and the Apple TV several times with no change in the result. I also went into the AVR set up menu but cant find any settings that affected this problem.

Apple tech support stopped helping when I told them, directly connected to the TV works fine. They just said the Apple TV was "incompatible" with the 2112 at that point, and were of no help.

had a problem lke that wtih my HTPC; problem was settings on Panasonic Plasma; had to turn Viera on, or an Optcal cable from TV to AVR. I did both.

Thanks, so that I understand, because this seems counter intuitive, changing the settings on the TV allowed you to feed Apple TV through your AVR then? I hadn't thought to mess with the TV's settings since the Apple TV works fine when directly connected to the TV, bypassing the AVR. I assumed, perhaps in error, that getting the signal through the Denon was the issue? Thanks again, some additional things to try perhaps.

that *MAY* work for you; I don't have Apple TV

These devices are pretty much plug and play after initial setup. Try unhooking another working Hdmi source from the source end and test. If no luck make sure the resolution match with the Tv.

It could be the Denon actually. I have a raspberry pi (really small computer if you aren't sure what I'm talking about). It works fine when connected to my small Samsung LED and to my Panasonic plasma, but through the AVR, it doesn't work at all. Flashes and strobe lights until you get a headache, and if you try and play audio over HDMI, the screen goes black. I haven't tried changing resolutions or settings, but it totally freaks out when connected to my 2312. I'm considering replacing my HTPC with it, but not until I can get reliable picture and audio out of it. I'm going to mess with it more next week as I have a week off, so I'll let you know if I find something that makes it better. I haven't tried other cables, etc yet either.

On another note, I got a new surge protector for my 2312 yesterday, and I also picked up a power meter. The Denon draws about 75W at idle while on. My Sony ES about 45W so that's probably why the Denon was freaking out when connected to the other strip and not the Sony. For reference, when playing rock music in stereo at about 85 dB (measured at my couch about 12 feet from the speakers), the Denon was drawing about 80W. My speakers are 90db efficient at 1m away (anechoic) at 2.83 V (theoretically 1W, except they aren't 8 ohm speakers). There are so many variables, but it seems for 2 channels once room reinforcement is factored in, the fact that I was further than 1 m away, and that the amp isn't 100% effiecient, another 5 W to drive the speakers seems about right. This also means, I should have plenty of headroom for my needs. I don't often listen at 95 db.

I have 3 Apple TV's. All work fine with all three of my Denon AVR's. 1912X2 and 3312. Connected to LG's and a MIttsubishi TV's. Plug and play.

What input(s) are you using on the AVRs? Everything else I've connected to the 2112 has worked plug and play 'till I got to this apple TV thing which refuses to make any sound or picture routed through the AVR. This should not be this difficult:mad:!

On the 3312 I have it connected to HDMI 3 which is SAT/CBL.
On the 1912's I connect them to Game1 which is HDMI4
There is no reason I used these specific inputs. It was just random. It should not make any difference.

My AVR-2112CI randomly power cycles throughout the day - with an interval of some few hours, for a total of 4 or 5 daily occurrences. I will hear the relays click, glance at the front panel display, and observe the power on sequence of messages. When the power cycle completes, all is well - the unit functions normally. AFAIK there is nothing else which is misbehaving. As part of trouble shooting this I disconnected all of the HDMI cables and the network cable (speakers remain attached) - it still happens. I purchased the unit new in April 2012 and first noticed the behavior soon thereafter. Can anyone advise me?

Could be the realy on the power supply. Or something else.
I had something like that. Mine would be fine until I turned it off and back on. Then it would constanly power cycle. Had to leave it off or unplug it for a while. Then it would be perfectly fine again until I turned it off and back on within a short period. But then it started to power cycle by itself.
So I sent it to Denon's Panurgy OEM service center in NJ. Got it back in a week with a replaced relay. It does have a different click when I turn it on. It is louder.

I have an issue connecting my HTPC to my 2112CI now. When I first got the receiver everything worked fine. Both HTPC and DirectTV box into 2112Ci via HDMI. audio and video all worked great, just change the input on the stereo. Then had a power outage, following that the Denon will no longer pass the video from the HTPC to my projector (Epson 8700UB).

HTPC output 1080p/24

I tried the HTPC connected to each Denon input and still nothing. Then tried to use the same cable I was using for the DirectTV connection and still nothing. If I connect HTPC to projector the video works fine. If I connect HTPC to HDMI swtich to projector the video works fine as well. Only when the HTPC is connected to the Denon is when the video doesn't work.

Does this sound like a problem with the Denon or the HTPC? Since HTPC can connect to projector fine it seems to be the Denon. I have done a reset on the Denon with no success. I am not sure what could have happened by the power outage that would cause either to now fail.

Any help or suggestions is welcome!

Do you get any video like the 2112 GUI? Do you have another monitor you could try? It does sound like the Denon has a problem.

I hate power outages. There can be a power surge when the power goes off. Also when it come back on. The voltage can rapidly fluctuate too.
I lost a 50" TV in 2006 from an outage. I put all my HT equipment on a UPS after that. Some of it already was on a UPS.
Last year I had two bad outages. A total of 5 surge protectors burned. A curcuit breaker blew. A chip in the alarm panel burned and fell out. Defrost control module in the fridge burned.
I will be getting whole house surge supression sometime this year. Almost everything in on surge protection now.

Yes I get the 2112CI GUI, I also get all video coming out of the DirectTV box. The only thing I am not getting is the video coming from the HTPC, whereas it worked fine before the outage. I am wondering if the HTPC now has an issue with HDCP or something. The graphics card I have outputs HDMI (Radeon 4670) and connecting it through any means but the Denon seems to work. Yes I can use an additional HDMI switch but then I have to switch that AND the Denon every time. I would prefer to just use the Denon to switch everything like it worked before.

Try connecting the HDMI out fron the Denon to the HDMI switch. Then connect the switch to the projector.

I had something similiar with a 1912 and a Mitts TV. The only way the HDMI out would work with my TV was to put a HDMI switch between the 1912 and the TV. Then the video worked perfectly. This trick is on the first page.

See the "HDMI HDCP reset" on page one

I just got the 1712 and I am setting it up. I cannot get anything to display while using my DVR. Its the Scientific Atlanta 8300HD. Once i switch to that source nothing shows up. No picture from the DVR, even none of the on screen menus from the 1712 show up on screen. The only thing that is on the screen is HDMI 1 in the upper left corner.

I have hooked up my xbox to Game 1 and everything works as expected. I tried hooking up the DVR to game 1 and the same thing happens, nothing shows up. Ive also tried two different HDMI cables...same thing.

Any suggestions?

Edit: After reading up sounds like it might be an HDMI handshake issue. But I seriously get nothing. Ive seen it drop in and out with handshake.
Edited by A-Pac - 2/27/13 at 3:41pm

Yup ... just connect it directly to the TV with optical from the box to the AVR.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread#user_L12

This has been reported on some units and will likely need to be sent in for repair to resolve the issue. Check Denon's website to see if there are any local repair facilities in your area.

how to delete reply??

I actually found that while researching the problem and tried most of this, I will go back and re-try the suggestions

I am about to give up. I was away for a few days, came home turned my avr 2313 on, and now both center and right front audio only comes from right front speaker. Does not matter what source I use. The strange thing is that for a few seconds after its turned on it works, but then audio shifts. I have done a cpu reset, and will try to set it up again, but this is looking like a lemon.. Anyone else had that? Center audio coming from right front?

This is too embarrassing to post. I built my own tube amps back in the 60's and am pretty much slam-dunk expert with computer hardware and OS problems - all versions of Windows and now Linux.
Also, friends tell me I am not too terribly senile.

My System:

1) Denon AVR-2112CI
2) 2 Polk Audio Floorstanding Speakers - rear
3) 2 Sony Bookshelf Speakers - front (wall hanging)
4) Klipsch Subwoofer - rear

What I hope to do:

1) Use the system for Audio Only
2) Listen to Pandora and Flac tunes off one of my computers with MediaMonkey
3) Set up these speakers making all balance, tone, etc. settings Manually - Denon can take their mini-microphone/tripod idea and stick it .....

I am an audiophile; I think I can adjust the speakers better myself.

Now I hate to ask a neonatal question, but I have major tonnage of work to do and would like to get this done quickly. I have dedicated considerable time to this and still cannot get my speakers to even belch out a sound. At present, I am reading both the enigmatic (Piaget would call it a product of "egocentric thought") Denon manual as well as Batpig's translation of this manual.

Can anyone give me an A --> B ---> C ---> set of instructions as to how to configure this instrument of the devil?