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post #17341 of 18069
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Originally Posted by Oblodo View Post

I am about to give up. I was away for a few days, came home turned my avr 2313 on, and now both center and right front audio only comes from right front speaker. Does not matter what source I use. The strange thing is that for a few seconds after its turned on it works, but then audio shifts. I have done a cpu reset, and will try to set it up again, but this is looking like a lemon.. Anyone else had that? Center audio coming from right front?

Is this a new or refurb unit and when was it purchased? Try resetting the microprocessor are few more times in succession. So then there is no audio from the center speaker at all and all the dialogue comes from the FR speaker?
post #17342 of 18069
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Originally Posted by IncurableGeek View Post

Can anyone give me an A --> B ---> C ---> set of instructions as to how to configure this instrument of the devil? confused.gif

The quickest way is to simply use AUTO SETUP and let the AVR and Audyssey configure your setup.
post #17343 of 18069
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Originally Posted by Oblodo View Post

I am about to give up. I was away for a few days, came home turned my avr 2313 on, and now both center and right front audio only comes from right front speaker. Does not matter what source I use. The strange thing is that for a few seconds after its turned on it works, but then audio shifts. I have done a cpu reset, and will try to set it up again, but this is looking like a lemon.. Anyone else had that? Center audio coming from right front?

You could try making sure your center connections are solid both on speaker and avr also make sure you are not in Stereo, Direct or Pure Mode Try different sources and modes. .

Also make sure nobody changed Center to None in Speaker Config setting and check the Channel Level.
Edited by spager - 2/28/13 at 6:17pm
post #17344 of 18069
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post #17345 of 18069
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Is this a new or refurb unit and when was it purchased? Try resetting the microprocessor are few more times in succession. So then there is no audio from the center speaker at all and all the dialogue comes from the FR speaker?

I blush and have to confess my idiocy... I seem to have lost part of my hearing in my left ear... Ear infection.... I am an total idiot, but being tired and wanting to watch a movie made me flipp.. It is not my brand new 2313ci's fault... It was my inability to recognize that my own senses was not working optimal. I am sorry.
post #17346 of 18069
Summary: Strange mismatch between IP address shown by 2312ci and actual IP address used by the unit.
Question: How long after I set IP or switch to DHCP does it take effect?

When on DHCP, my router assigns 192.168.1.3 to the 2312ci.
If I switch the IP address manually to 192.168.1.20 (keeping subnet mask, DNS etc the same), back out of the menus, go to standby and back on etc, the Network Information shows the ..192.168.1.20 address (as set by me).

However, the unit is still connected to my LAN on the original .. 1.3 address!!
I can ping it at .. 192.168.1.3
I can get to the Denon pages using "http://192.168.1.3/index.asp",
My router management has a page showing connected devices: and it shows .. 192.168.1.3 for the Mac address corresponding to the 2312ci

So, while the Denon thinks it is using 192.168.1.20 (and tells me so in its menus), it is actually using 192.168.1.3

I'm sure I can fix this by doing a network+mu-P reset but I don't want to. It erases all my Audyssy and other settings.

Any idea what's going on and what I should do?

Aloke
post #17347 of 18069
"if it's working, don't FIX it" wink.gif
post #17348 of 18069
Airplay is not working. And I believe that has something to do with this schizophrenia about network identity of the 2312ci.

I'll try unplugging the unit and re-plugging. Maybe a hrd power cycle will help.
post #17349 of 18069
Have you got your receiver set to keep the network connection up when in standby?

I have this feeling that unless and until the ethernet board is forced to cycle, the IP won't actually change. Unplugging the unit for a while should accomplish this handily. The first thing I'd try, though, would be unplugging the ethernet cable for a little while. I'd be interested to know if that's sufficient to do the job. Turning off network standby and doing a soft power cycle might do it, too.
post #17350 of 18069
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Originally Posted by JD in NJ View Post

Have you got your receiver set to keep the network connection up when in standby?

I have this feeling that unless and until the ethernet board is forced to cycle, the IP won't actually change. Unplugging the unit for a while should accomplish this handily. The first thing I'd try, though, would be unplugging the ethernet cable for a little while. I'd be interested to know if that's sufficient to do the job. Turning off network standby and doing a soft power cycle might do it, too.
I disabled Network Standby.
That seems to have helped. but we'll know for sure after a few days.
Disabling standby makes the unit re-establish itself on the network every time it is powered on. That means I cannot initiate airplay or web-control while the receiver is off. A small price to pay for reliable functionality.

Aloke
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Were you setting the IP of the AVR in the router or the Denon?
post #17352 of 18069
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Originally Posted by alokeprasad View Post

I disabled Network Standby.
That seems to have helped. but we'll know for sure after a few days.
Disabling standby makes the unit re-establish itself on the network every time it is powered on. That means I cannot initiate airplay or web-control while the receiver is off. A small price to pay for reliable functionality.

Aloke

If it's now got the IP address it should, you ought to be able to re-enable network standby and enjoy life again.
post #17353 of 18069
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Originally Posted by doctorwizz View Post

Were you setting the IP of the AVR in the router or the Denon?
On the Denon.
post #17354 of 18069
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Originally Posted by JD in NJ View Post

If it's now got the IP address it should, you ought to be able to re-enable network standby and enjoy life again.
That's the way I was functioning for the last few months.. except that I would lose Airplay functionality every few (5 - 7) days. Changing from DHCP to fixed used to bring back Airplay, again for a few days.

I think that disabling Network Standby might just work by forcing the Denon to re-establish itself on the network more frequently (like every time it is switched on).
post #17355 of 18069
I'm about to calibrate the speakers to match already ran audyssey it sounds good but i notice fronts dont sound balanced it like sometimes the right louder or the left louder then right with music.I notice it while watching skyfall the very start of the movie with them on the bikes.Well what volume on the denon 1612 shoud i use 0.0db?I have gotten the right and left speaker sound like it's coming from the center speaker not sure if this is the way it's ment to be or not.

Here what the room look like it's pretty big just my computer desk and bed takin so much don't mind the mess been trying to tweak around but no go yet.



Front stage http://i.imgur.com/zrPWkJR.jpg

Side of front stage http://i.imgur.com/bm2ckvs.jpg

Back wall/ seating area http://imgur.com/zrPWkJR,bm2ckvs,1dKZaBR#2
Edited by ryu4000 - 3/1/13 at 7:44pm
post #17356 of 18069
Argh, my channels cutting out started again tonight (AVR-2312). For the last week I've had the Denon plugged in to a separate plug strip in a different outlet (same circuit breaker though) and it's been flawless. Tonight, I finally got around to "installing" the new surge protector, pulling the tv stand out, pulling the old one out, etc. The only configuration I changed was that I reinstalled my "biwire" configuration that I had pulled trying to test my speaker wires for shorts. It started cutting out again (main channels only). So I went back to troubleshooting and now it's even doing it when back on it's own surge protector to it's own outlet. I guess I call Denon back when I get home from our weekend out of town. See my previous posts for all the things I've tried, but to sum up, I've reset the microprocessor many times, pulled the power, etc.

I've put a power meter on the outlet, and I'm drawing as much as 400 watts (between 3 to 4 amps or so) at times with the Denon, plasma TV, HTPC, and DirecTV box all on at once, but that's nowhere near the capacity of the outlet or breaker, so I can't imagine there's a problem with my electricity. The house isn't that old and the Denon is the only thing acting funny. Voltage, etc is measuring fine. I think it's the Denon at this point. Being that it is a refurb, I'm just glad it started doing this at 10 months, and not 13.

BTW: I know bi-wire does nothing, but I had the extra wire and it makes me feel like it's better, and I've pulled them back out and now it's back to cutting out with a single wire and the bridges back on the speakers.
post #17357 of 18069
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Originally Posted by ryu4000 View Post

I'm about to calibrate the speakers to match already ran audyssey it sounds good but i notice fronts dont sound balanced it like sometimes the right louder or the left louder then right with music.I notice it while watching skyfall the very start of the movie with them on the bikes.Well what volume on the denon 1612 shoud i use 0.0db?I have gotten the right and left speaker sound like it's coming from the center speaker not sure if this is the way it's ment to be or not.

Here what the room look like it's pretty big just my computer desk and bed takin so much don't mind the mess been trying to tweak around but no go yet.



Front stage http://i.imgur.com/zrPWkJR.jpg

Side of front stage http://i.imgur.com/bm2ckvs.jpg

Back wall/ seating area http://imgur.com/zrPWkJR,bm2ckvs,1dKZaBR#2

Ensure the FL/FR speakers are angled in towards your chair and that the center speaker is angled up towards your seated ear height. What did the AVR set your speaker trim levels to after running Audyssey? Regarding volume, most likely listen at -20db or so as anything louder is often too loud especially in a family environment or with a WAF to consider. Note also that the FL/FR speakers receive a different sound track than does the C speakers which is primarily for the dialogue.
post #17358 of 18069
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Originally Posted by ryu4000 View Post

I'm about to calibrate the speakers to match already ran audyssey it sounds good but i notice fronts dont sound balanced it like sometimes the right louder or the left louder then right with music

Have you verified that your hearing is OK, including (lack of) wax buildup? Another poster recently reported that he was getting intermittent diversion of audio from one front speaker to the other. It turned out to be caused by an ear infection.
post #17359 of 18069
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Originally Posted by Selden Ball View Post

Have you verified that your hearing is OK, including (lack of) wax buildup? Another poster recently reported that he was getting intermittent diversion of audio from one front speaker to the other. It turned out to be caused by an ear infection.

I had another friend tell me the same the speaker sounds off we try everything to toeing in a little pushing the speaker back etc..... but here my cross over after running audyssey http://i.imgur.com/rFCp0wp.jpg and test tone http://imgur.com/rFCp0wp,uCVuEWO#1
post #17360 of 18069
Don't forget to manually reconfigure your main speakers to "Small" so that bass management is enabled for them. Although Denon receivers like to configure speakers as "full range", they really aren't, and a quality subwoofer can produce better low frequency sound than even the best floor standing speaker system.

If you haven't already, please take the time to read through the Audyssey FAQ. The setup instructions in receiver manuals are overly simplified. See http://www.avsforum.com/t/795421/official-audyssey-thread-faq-in-post-1/51750#post_21782993
post #17361 of 18069
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Originally Posted by alokeprasad View Post

On the Denon.

Set the Denon IP in the router. Turn on DHCP and network standby on in the Denon.
Then reboot router while the Denon is unplugged.
Turn on Denon and all should be good.
post #17362 of 18069
Can someone help me with an issue. I have a 3312 and am trying to hook up my xfinity box (RNG110) via the sat/cbl hookup on the avr. I am not getting video or audio. I get vidio/audio with my blu ray. I tried looking in the AVR GUI settings and couldnt find anything. I also ran an HDMI straight to the tv from the cable box and got video so it has to do with some setting in the AVR. I know there are known handshake issues and hopefully I wont have to run audio/video seperate. Can someone help me understand a quick setting i should validate or do i need composite for audio and run the HDMI straight from the cable to the tv? Thoughts?
post #17363 of 18069
have RNG200, sometimes I have to check to make sure the HDMI cable is fully seated to the cable box, then turn both off & back on
post #17364 of 18069
You can try resetting the AVR's microprocessor (see post #5 of this thread) which has helped some, otherwise you'll likely need to use a different cable configuration ... either HDMI to the TV with optical from the box to the AVR, or component video/optical from the box to the AVR.
post #17365 of 18069
I recently got a great deal on an open box 3312 from Best Buy. It ended up being less than $450 with a 7 yr warranty. I love the receiver and it made a huge difference to my HT setup. The only thing that bothers me is there seems to be different volumes for different sources and tv channels. One channel may be really loud and the next quiet. Same goes with going from my Cable box to my PS3. All the sources are connected through HDMI. So, is there anyway to normalize volume between them all?

Thanks

Colby
post #17366 of 18069
Yup. Increase/decrease the "Source Level" setting for those sources you need to adjust the volume.
post #17367 of 18069
I noticed a new firmware update today (2013-03-04) for AVR 1912.

Does anybody have release notes for this update?

Thanks!!


Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
post #17368 of 18069
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Originally Posted by wjbertrand View Post

I'm hoping someone has the answer for this. I searched and could not find the exact issue anywhere in this forum, so sorry if I missed it.

I bought an Apple TV yesterday but cannot get it to work through my 2112 AVR. I've tried 3 different HDMI cables and three different HDMI inputs on back of the AVR (V.AUX, Game 1 & Game 2, the other inputs are occupied by my DirecTV box, Blue Ray player and VCR/DVD combo deck), but all I get is a blank screen. I don't get a "no input" message on the TV, so it makes me think it is sensing something is there (or maybe it's just seeing the AVR?). If I connect the HDMI 2 output from the Apple TV box directly to my Panasonic Plasma TV it works beautifully. All three HDMI cables work in this configuration as well. I can hear sound fine via the ARC back to the AVR, but I think this is limited to a stereo signal? Does the Apple TV output multi-channel Dolby or DTS audio? If so then I'd like to expend a little more effort to try and get this gadget working through the 2112.

I've tried disconnecting the power from both the AVR and the Apple TV several times with no change in the result. I also went into the AVR set up menu but cant find any settings that affected this problem.

Apple tech support stopped helping when I told them, directly connected to the TV works fine. They just said the Apple TV was "incompatible" with the 2112 at that point, and were of no help.

Got it sorted. Went back and did what I thought was the same thing I tried last weekend and now it's working fine. What was weird was that my input assignments were all scrambled afterward. I went back through and reassigned all the inputs and got everything back to normal and maintained the Apple TV signal feed through the AVR.
post #17369 of 18069
NO firmware notice for my 3312, yet, but, it's still 2013-03-03 here
post #17370 of 18069
Finally got my front sound stage working nicely just working on the 2 surrounds just trying get them to play together nicer.Wow these denons pack a punch i notice right when i got one it opened my speakers up more there alot different the HK i gained more bass and clarity might just stick with denons avr.
Edited by ryu4000 - 3/4/13 at 5:55am
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