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post #17491 of 17945
3/16/13 at 5:10am
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Ok, well good news and bad news.

As I posted earlier, Panurgy found nothing wrong with my 2312. I got home this afternoon and the receiver was here. One week +2 day turnaround including shipping.

When I opened the box, there was a note inside saying the unit had been disassembled and cleaned but that it tested to factory specs and no repair was needed. I'm not convinced it's even the same unit. The serial number is the same, but they are just stickers. The volume and input knobs on the front are worn. There is a ring of silver when the black finish has been rubbed off. I suppose it's possible this happened during shipping/testing, but it wasn't like that before I shipped it out.

The good news is that it works fine so far. (My problem was that the FL and FR speakers were cutting in and out accompanied by a click of a relay). I decided not to reload my settings and just re-run Audyssey and set it up from scratch. Everything seems great.

Now to return the Yamaha to Best Buy and pray everything stays good for a while. I really like this receiver and I hope I have no other problems.
i just noticed the worn ring around the volume and selector knobs.im calling panurgy for replacements.i never touch the knobs and they look worn and old.they need to be more careful on shipping and handling.

If they disassemble, clean and reassemble units as a matter of course, I suspect that all of the standard, interchangeable parts are tossed into and taken from common bins. After all, a knob is a knob is a knob. Of course, that means some people who sent in old units get new parts and some people who sent in new units get old parts. frown.gif
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post #17492 of 17945
3/16/13 at 5:23am
Anyone know how I set up Zone 2 in my 1912?

The Zone 2 button on the front of the unit does not appear to do anything.
And the "Zone2 setup" in the setup menu is greyed out (it can not be selected).

I have had this unit for about 1.5 years, but I never tried to use Zone 2 before now...
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post #17493 of 17945
3/16/13 at 5:45am
you have to change the AMP ASSIGN from NORMAL to ZONE2: MENU, SYSTEM SETUP, SPEAKER SETUP, AMP ASSIGN, RIGHT ARROW TO CHANGE TO ZONE2 (YOU'LL HEAR a CLICK to CONFIRM CHANGE)

NOW you may select ZONE2
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post #17494 of 17945
3/16/13 at 5:50am
Thanks !!!
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post #17495 of 17945
3/16/13 at 5:53am
you're welcome; just hope I told you right; I don't have a 1912, but a 3312 cool.gif
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post #17496 of 17945
3/16/13 at 6:06am
Yes that part worked.
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post #17497 of 17945
3/16/13 at 6:11am
good, very good
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post #17498 of 17945
3/16/13 at 7:44am
Yes, thanks! Now that I have Zone 2 operational, I was able to check that the speaker wire on my roof deck is operational. In other words the speakers output sound on my roof deck. My next step up there will be to install them permanently onto the wall.

Next question. I have a 1912 2 Zone receiver. But I have three speaker zones in my house. Is there anything like a 2 channel speaker wire zone splitter thing? I want to set up all the speaker wire once, and be able to somehow easily alternate between sending a Zone 2 two channel speaker set up to two separate sets of speakers (one in the kitchen, the other on the roof deck).

Does such a device exist? If so does anyone know where I can purchase one? Thanks!
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post #17499 of 17945
3/16/13 at 11:20am
I know this may be a silly question, but it's just been rolling around in the back of my head for awhile....

I have a 2112CI, and when playing music out through AirPlay I just have the output set to stereo. Is there a setting that makes the output 2.1? I did some looking around in the manual, but just didn't find anything that registered with me.
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post #17500 of 17945
3/16/13 at 12:33pm
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Stereo is the setting you want, but you need to have bass management configured properly. Either set the speakers to "small" with an 80hz crossover which will reroute the low bass to the sub, or if you want to leave the mains at full range (large) set the sub mode to LFE+MAIN which will enable "double bass".

Note that your receiver has a dedicated 2ch settings menu so you can configure the bass management separately for stereo mode without affecting your multichannel settings.
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post #17501 of 17945
3/16/13 at 2:00pm
Okay, then I do have it set right. I admit I'm using a very high tech way of checking the subwoofer: I'm putting my hand on it and checking for vibration. biggrin.gif All the LFE and such is set correctly, I've just never had a sense it was producing anything. Thank you for the info.
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post #17502 of 17945
3/16/13 at 7:35pm
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Yes, thanks! Now that I have Zone 2 operational, I was able to check that the speaker wire on my roof deck is operational. In other words the speakers output sound on my roof deck. My next step up there will be to install them permanently onto the wall.

Next question. I have a 1912 2 Zone receiver. But I have three speaker zones in my house. Is there anything like a 2 channel speaker wire zone splitter thing? I want to set up all the speaker wire once, and be able to somehow easily alternate between sending a Zone 2 two channel speaker set up to two separate sets of speakers (one in the kitchen, the other on the roof deck).

Does such a device exist? If so does anyone know where I can purchase one? Thanks!

You are looking for a multi zone impedance matching speaker selector (eg. http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10903&cs_id=1090305&p_id=6857&seq=1&format=2); however, note that connecting more than 2 sets of speakers to the 1912 may cause the AVR to shut down in protection mode. The safer configuration would be to connect the speaker selector to an external 2CH amp to power the multi room speakers; however, the 1912 does not feature Zone 2 pre-outs.
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post #17503 of 17945
3/16/13 at 10:28pm
Searched the thread multiple times , however haven't found the answer to my question. Please bear with me if this has been answered before.
I have a PS3 remote which is Have setup to use with XBMC on my PC via Bluetooth , I have also set the PS3 remote to control my Samsung LED TV using a 3 digit Remote control code. However I am now trying to setup the PS3 remote control to also control my Denon 1912 but cant get a proper 3 digit code to set it up. Any pointers ?

I have tried the suggestions from here but no help.
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post #17504 of 17945
3/17/13 at 1:43pm
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Originally Posted by chetanzcool View Post

Searched the thread multiple times , however haven't found the answer to my question. Please bear with me if this has been answered before.
I have a PS3 remote which is Have setup to use with XBMC on my PC via Bluetooth , I have also set the PS3 remote to control my Samsung LED TV using a 3 digit Remote control code. However I am now trying to setup the PS3 remote control to also control my Denon 1912 but cant get a proper 3 digit code to set it up. Any pointers ?

I have tried the suggestions from here but no help.

If the codes don't work some remotes let you scan the codes by putting in code mode than hitting powering on or channel up etc...until maybe it hits a code that will work. If the ps3 allows for learning just point the Denon remote and program in the commands. You could also call Sony Support and maybe they might have a code that will work. If all else fails you may want to try something like a Harmony remote.
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post #17505 of 17945
3/17/13 at 2:03pm
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Originally Posted by Scurly View Post

Adding an amp today to my 3312.

Should I have to rerun Audyssey? Any other issue to look out for?

By the way......I shipped my 3312 in for repair (blown amp) directly to Denon. Had it back in 7 days time including shipping days . Grat service. They even called to check up on the repair. 1st class.

Yes rerun Audyssey as the external amp will change the volume structure.
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post #17506 of 17945
3/17/13 at 8:46pm
Suddenly sound stopped working right on my 2112. So I unplugged the unit, reset the microprocessor and reran the setup. I have my cable box going from HDMI to the receiver. The receiver is HDMI to my TV. I am going through the setup on my laptop as I look at the TV. The odd thing is if I switch to HDMI out to TV I get sound coming out of the TV speaker. But I go back to AMP and no sound out of the surround speakers. Nothing has changed since the last time everything was working besides my steps above. We turned the system off, went to the store, came back and it didn't work. Any ideas? The one thing I haven't done yet is setup Audessey, but should that really matter as a basic setup?
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post #17507 of 17945
3/18/13 at 6:26pm
Check to see if the cable box got a firmware update as that can sometimes be the cause of HDMI handshake issues.
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post #17508 of 17945
3/19/13 at 7:58am
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Check to see if the cable box got a firmware update as that can sometimes be the cause of HDMI handshake issues.

If that was the case, is there another way to clear the receiver besides holding preset 2-3 and power? I am on hold with tech support to see what they say in the mean time.
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post #17509 of 17945
3/19/13 at 10:01am
I have a denon 1712 hooked up to my PC and 42" lg HDTV.

I've been having a problem where my hdmi will cut out in one form or another while using my pc, either the audio will cut out and go to onboard or the video will go blank. It doesn't happen to often but enough to have me wondering whats going on. I got some suggestions from my pc forum but wanted to get some input from here.

The most common time this happens is when a screensaver comes up but sometimes it'll be for no reason.
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post #17510 of 17945
3/19/13 at 5:36pm
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If that was the case, is there another way to clear the receiver besides holding preset 2-3 and power? I am on hold with tech support to see what they say in the mean time.

After checking the test tones and having me unplug the sub line and tap it with my finger to make sure the sub was working, tech support immediately said the audio part of the receiver was broken. He said it was rare but to take it to the nearest service center. Took me a good chunk of the afternoon finding the receipt, so I am driving it over to the closest one tomorrow.
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post #17511 of 17945
3/19/13 at 5:39pm
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Originally Posted by travanx View Post

If that was the case, is there another way to clear the receiver besides holding preset 2-3 and power? I am on hold with tech support to see what they say in the mean time.

Yup. Refer to post #5 of this thread.
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post #17512 of 17945
3/19/13 at 5:39pm
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Originally Posted by petriebird View Post

I have a denon 1712 hooked up to my PC and 42" lg HDTV.

I've been having a problem where my hdmi will cut out in one form or another while using my pc, either the audio will cut out and go to onboard or the video will go blank. It doesn't happen to often but enough to have me wondering whats going on. I got some suggestions from my pc forum but wanted to get some input from here.

The most common time this happens is when a screensaver comes up but sometimes it'll be for no reason.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread/0_100#user_L12
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post #17513 of 17945
3/20/13 at 8:14am
Question regarding the HDMI OUT Monitor 2 jack on my 3312. Currently, I'm using the '1' as my primary connection to my television, and in a few weeks hope to get around to installing some outdoor speakers and utilize Zone 2 for audio output. Say down the line I'd like to invest in a projector and outdoor screen to watch movies in the backyard on a nice night with the family. Would I be able to utilize the HDMI Monitor 2 jack to the projector and assign it (video out) to Zone 2's audio? Is the Component Monitor OUT assignable to Zone 2? Or would I be forced to only being able to assign the Composite video to Zone 2? I'm thinking that I can utilize the HDMI Monitor 2 jack for what I'm going to refer to as Zone 2, but it will be the same source as 'Main Zone' (displaying exact same content on both HDMI OUTs)....which I can live with for when I use this feature.

Thoughts? Is anyone currently using both HDMI OUTs, and if so, how have you implemented them?
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post #17514 of 17945
3/20/13 at 8:22am
I have a 3312ci and do the following:

Output HDMI 1: Main to 73" DLP ,
Output HDMI 2: Sub to HDMI to Cat5 Balon, and run to guest room, 24" Vizio LED

It occasionally gets hung up but for the most part it works.

I also use HDMI standby so HDMI 4 is always the default source even when AVR is off.

The issue sometimes is refetching the audio since since the TV is 2.0 sound and the upstairs is 5.1.

Not sure what else to add, but it has been known to lock up on handshakes. Of course much of that is the HDMI / ethernet balaons used in this scenario I would imagine.
Edited by nc88keyz - 3/20/13 at 8:33am
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post #17515 of 17945
3/20/13 at 2:47pm
Having trouble with my HDMI passthrough on 1712. When first powering on TV and Sat. receiver the audio/video will display for about 3-4 seconds, then both audio/video go out...until I power on the Denon and select the correct input.

Is this normal?

Also, I still can't get the TV, SAT, and Denon to power on/off together. With HDMI-CEC on or off on my Samsung still same problem.

Thoughts?
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post #17516 of 17945
3/20/13 at 5:12pm
With HDMI Control set to ON and the Standby Source set to the CBL/SAT source, power OFF the AVR and then power it ON again. Whether HDMI-CEC works as you desire is really dependent on the components in the chain as it does not always work as desired. Ensure the "P. OFF Control" setting is set to "ALL".

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post #17517 of 17945
3/20/13 at 5:17pm
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Originally Posted by Dru the Fu View Post

Question regarding the HDMI OUT Monitor 2 jack on my 3312. Currently, I'm using the '1' as my primary connection to my television, and in a few weeks hope to get around to installing some outdoor speakers and utilize Zone 2 for audio output. Say down the line I'd like to invest in a projector and outdoor screen to watch movies in the backyard on a nice night with the family. Would I be able to utilize the HDMI Monitor 2 jack to the projector and assign it (video out) to Zone 2's audio? Is the Component Monitor OUT assignable to Zone 2? Or would I be forced to only being able to assign the Composite video to Zone 2? I'm thinking that I can utilize the HDMI Monitor 2 jack for what I'm going to refer to as Zone 2, but it will be the same source as 'Main Zone' (displaying exact same content on both HDMI OUTs)....which I can live with for when I use this feature.

Thoughts? Is anyone currently using both HDMI OUTs, and if so, how have you implemented them?

1. No. The HDMI Monitor outputs only apply to the same main zone source. (the 3313CI is able to output HDMI to Zone 2).
2. No. The component monitor output only apply to the main zone source. (the 3313CI is able to output component to Zone 2).
3. Correct. As noted on p. 6 in the Owner's manual, only S-Video and composite video can go to Zone 2.
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post #17518 of 17945
3/20/13 at 10:24pm
Hey all, I'm having an issue with Netflix and my 1712. If this problems been addressed, I apologize but could not find it with a google search.

So when watching Netflix streaming movies that have DD+ 5.1 soundtracks, I notice sometimes that the left channel and center channel appear reversed. The dialogue is all coming out of the left speaker, and things like music and other sound effects are coming out of the right. I know everything is wired properly, I've tested just about every audio signal the receiver can handle. And it's definitely not all DD+ signals but I have noticed it with several. Now I don't have anything that has DD+ except Netflix.

Netflix is being run off my WD TV Live box, connected via HDMI to the AVR.

Any ideas? Anybody seen this? I'm going to try Netflix on my Blu Ray player and Xbox 360 too to rule out the WD Box. But like I said, it's not all Netflix titles. Is it possible these streams are messed? Really annoying. Thanks for the help.
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post #17519 of 17945
3/21/13 at 9:31am
Thread Starter 
If the problem is specifically restricted to one type of source (Netflix) and other multich sources play properly, it's pretty safe to assume that the source itself (and not the receiver) is at fault. Definitely test out Netflix from your other steaming devices to confirm.
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post #17520 of 17945
3/21/13 at 1:38pm
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

With HDMI Control set to ON and the Standby Source set to the CBL/SAT source, power OFF the AVR and then power it ON again. Whether HDMI-CEC works as you desire is really dependent on the components in the chain as it does not always work as desired. Ensure the "P. OFF Control" setting is set to "ALL".


Thanks, I'll give this a try.

One more thing...is it possible to use one input for audio, and another for video at the same time? For instance, listening to music through the AUX input while displaying video from SAT?

thanks!
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