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post #17671 of 18955
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Originally Posted by caloyzki View Post

i need youre help guys, i have denon 1612 avr, i sync my tv and my avr by turning ON the hdmi control from my avr, but the problem is everytime i turned on my TV my avr turns on too and it always go to tv mode from the avr, is there any way i can swap the tv mode to cable/sat mode which is my cable box? so that i wont press the sat/cable button from the denon remote everytime i turned it on. it is so annoying.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread/0_100#user_E5
post #17672 of 18955
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Originally Posted by d34dl1n3r View Post

I give up on A4L. Nothing but a runaround from Mark since day one. I have read a good enough number of posts that match exactly the issues I have had, and also emails from Mark to other people dating back to early 2012... confirming that he in fact knew about issues with the 3112's, and that A4L even pulled them from being sold at one point in time. I told them I do not want and "upgrade" from Denon, that I am sending the junk back and want a full refund for the receiver, warranty, original shipping costs, and either a prepaid return label or to be reimbursed for any costs to ship it back to them. I cannot, and will not ever recommend anyone to make a purchase from Accessories4Less.

Be that as it may ... AC4L can only sell what is received from the mfr .... in the condition it is received.
post #17673 of 18955
thanks. this is what i am doing now. i deleted the TV mode, so that when i turn on tv avr will turn on too and go right away to cable/sat, but if i want to watch netflix from my tv, then i need to activate again the tv mode. well i guess that is the better solution now. thanks again sir.
post #17674 of 18955
You're much better served turning off HDMI-CEC on the TV and simply passing the audio from the TV to the AVR via an optical cable as it will be as good or possible better quality as many TVs can only pass PCM 2.0 stereo over HDMI(ARC) while the optical cable can pass DD 5.1 (eg. Netflix movies). You can use a Harmony remote to turn on all the devices with a single button press.
post #17675 of 18955
Can you assign a different channel level for each input?

For instance, can I set the subwoofer channel level to +3 for my Tivo, but set it to +6 for my bluray player?
post #17676 of 18955
Can you disable the On Screen Display? I can't figure out how to do that in the menu. I don't want it to pop up on the screen every time I want to change a channel volume. I'd rather just look at the front of the amp.
post #17677 of 18955
Thread Starter 
1. No, channel levels are not memorized by input (although you can probably do it by memorizing that input selection with one of the Quick Select buttons). If you want to tweak the bass level for each input, the best idea is to use the Dynamic EQ Reference Level Offset since all Audyssey settings are memorized by input. For example, if you leave the Blu-ray input at 0 offset but trim the offset down 10dB for the Tivo, you will diminish the boomy bass from cable TV programming without impacting the bass on well recorded movie soundtracks.

2. Yes, all overlay graphic settings are in System Setup > Option Setup > GUI. The "Text" setting will enable/disable the input/surround mode text overlay, and the "Master Volume" setting controls the volume overlay.
post #17678 of 18955
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

1. No, channel levels are not memorized by input (although you can probably do it by memorizing that input selection with one of the Quick Select buttons). If you want to tweak the bass level for each input, the best idea is to use the Dynamic EQ Reference Level Offset since all Audyssey settings are memorized by input. For example, if you leave the Blu-ray input at 0 offset but trim the offset down 10dB for the Tivo, you will diminish the boomy bass from cable TV programming without impacting the bass on well recorded movie soundtracks.

2. Yes, all overlay graphic settings are in System Setup > Option Setup > GUI. The "Text" setting will enable/disable the input/surround mode text overlay, and the "Master Volume" setting controls the volume overlay.

Thanks for the tips! I actually listed what I wanted backwards...my Tivo never has enough bass to me, but my Bluray player seems to have plenty (because I'm watching movies with properly encoded bass). So I would turn the Audyssey offset down to -10db for the Bluray, and leave the Tivo at 0db, right? (But, I guess a negative side effect is that I would lost some of the low volume surround compensation in the Bluray.
post #17679 of 18955
Getting ready to tear in to my all hdmi connected 1712. I had no sound from any source when I went to watch tv last night.
Gonna try the reset stuff and see what happens, wish me luck!
post #17680 of 18955
^^ Had the same problem with my 3312, and reset didn't fix it for me. I posted this a few pages back, but it remained unanswered, maybe because my post came in the middle of a hot discussion. I'll copy it below, maybe more luck this time? smile.gif
Frankiebob, please tell me if the same happened to you.
Here it is:

Sorry if this has been covered before.
Having an issue with my 3312 for quite some time. I didn't report it because I was hoping the update would fix it (I'm talking the European model, which gets its update some time after the US one). But the problem seems to persist.
My 3312 loses audio every now and then, from all sources (the boxes at left don't appear, as if no signal was coming in). Unplugging the machine, even for hours, didn't work.
Few days ago the update came, I succesfully updated to the new firmware. It worked at first, but later on the prob occured again.
I thought a processor reset is the way to go. Backed up my config, reset, loaded my config. Again, worked at first but then it happened again.
Should I assume that by uploading my backed up config I also uploaded the "error" that I used to have, and that I should run Audissey again?
Thanks

Edit: damn, I've re-run Audissey setup, everything seemed to go just fine, but still no audio from any source frown.gif

Edit 2: I unplugged it for some half hour and now it works. Shall I backup the config again, now that the "temporary? error" isn't there?
This thing is driving me crazy
Edited by jerkoffsky - 4/2/13 at 6:27am
post #17681 of 18955
My 1712 hasn't had any sort of updates. Just did the hard reset. Says in the speaker calibration part there is either no speaker or no microphone.
No sound output whatsoever. Doesn't look good for me!
post #17682 of 18955
^^
What does the front panel display when trying to play a specific source? If the microprocessor reset does not resolve the issue then the unit will likely need to be repaired?
post #17683 of 18955
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Originally Posted by jerkoffsky View Post

^^ Had the same problem with my 3312, and reset didn't fix it for me. I posted this a few pages back, but it remained unanswered, maybe because my post came in the middle of a hot discussion. I'll copy it below, maybe more luck this time? smile.gif
Frankiebob, please tell me if the same happened to you.
Here it is:

Sorry if this has been covered before.
Having an issue with my 3312 for quite some time. I didn't report it because I was hoping the update would fix it (I'm talking the European model, which gets its update some time after the US one). But the problem seems to persist.
My 3312 loses audio every now and then, from all sources (the boxes at left don't appear, as if no signal was coming in). Unplugging the machine, even for hours, didn't work.
Few days ago the update came, I succesfully updated to the new firmware. It worked at first, but later on the prob occured again.
I thought a processor reset is the way to go. Backed up my config, reset, loaded my config. Again, worked at first but then it happened again.
Should I assume that by uploading my backed up config I also uploaded the "error" that I used to have, and that I should run Audissey again?
Thanks

Edit: damn, I've re-run Audissey setup, everything seemed to go just fine, but still no audio from any source frown.gif

Edit 2: I unplugged it for some half hour and now it works. Shall I backup the config again, now that the "temporary? error" isn't there?
This thing is driving me crazy
Edited by jerkoffsky - 4/2/13 at 6:27am

Yes backup the config file again, although note that you can simply rename the previous one you backed up if you want to save it as well.
post #17684 of 18955
All sources read as they should on the display and show the proper sound output.
post #17685 of 18955
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Originally Posted by Frankiebob5 View Post

All sources read as they should on the display and show the proper sound output.

Are the headphones plugged in?
post #17686 of 18955
Then it could be an issue with the HDMI board itself, which might need to be replaced. Check Denon's website to see if there are any authorized repair centers in your local area.
post #17687 of 18955
No headphones plugged in.
Even if th HDMI board is bad, should I not still get sound in the speaker calibration part outputting the test tones?
post #17688 of 18955
Perhaps ... either way, the unit will most likely need to be repaired. frown.gif However, as long as you purchased from an authorized reseller, then it would be covered on the 2 year warranty.
post #17689 of 18955
No such luck, it's a refurb from A4L. Had it more than a year.
First refurb anything I've had a problem with.
I like Denon, but I just don't know now. NewEgg has The Yamaha RX-V773WABL on sale for$429 with the wifi adapter. I may go with that.
post #17690 of 18955
If you purchased with a credit card, many card issuers will add an additional year making it 2 years for the refurb (Amex will for sure as will some MC/Visa).
post #17691 of 18955
Just found my sales slip, it has been less that a year. Now to figure out how to to obtain sevice.
Thanks jdsmoothie for forceing me to use my head. Wiil let everyone know how it goes.
post #17692 of 18955
Denon has taken over warranty repair issues so you'll need to call Denon during the week or you can simply work with a local repair facility if they are listed on Denon's website.
post #17693 of 18955
Found a service center listed about about 75 miles away and I have shot him an e-mail.
post #17694 of 18955
All they should require is a copy of your dated receipt and the authorized repair facility's name (AC4L) and you should be good to go. For a refurb, they "may" want you to call Denon just to confirm. Note that your 1 year warranty still applies, so once repaired, you will still only have 1 year from the original date of purchase, so check on the credit card extension.
post #17695 of 18955
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Yes backup the config file again, although note that you can simply rename the previous one you backed up if you want to save it as well.

Thanks, JD
I did back up the config file right after a (successful) reset. Yet, when it happened again, reloading the config didn't help. Unplugging for a while did, but only sometimes.
To summarize, resetting and/of unplugging sometimes help, sometimes not.
post #17696 of 18955
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Originally Posted by jerkoffsky View Post

^^ Had the same problem with my 3312, and reset didn't fix it for me. I posted this a few pages back, but it remained unanswered, maybe because my post came in the middle of a hot discussion. I'll copy it below, maybe more luck this time? smile.gif
Frankiebob, please tell me if the same happened to you.
Here it is:

Sorry if this has been covered before.
Having an issue with my 3312 for quite some time. I didn't report it because I was hoping the update would fix it (I'm talking the European model, which gets its update some time after the US one). But the problem seems to persist.
My 3312 loses audio every now and then, from all sources (the boxes at left don't appear, as if no signal was coming in). Unplugging the machine, even for hours, didn't work.
Few days ago the update came, I succesfully updated to the new firmware. It worked at first, but later on the prob occured again.
I thought a processor reset is the way to go. Backed up my config, reset, loaded my config. Again, worked at first but then it happened again.
Should I assume that by uploading my backed up config I also uploaded the "error" that I used to have, and that I should run Audissey again?
Thanks

Edit: damn, I've re-run Audissey setup, everything seemed to go just fine, but still no audio from any source frown.gif

Edit 2: I unplugged it for some half hour and now it works. Shall I backup the config again, now that the "temporary? error" isn't there?
This thing is driving me crazy
Edited by jerkoffsky - 4/2/13 at 6:27am

Could be handshake issues and since it happens on all sources try swapping out the hdmi cable to the tv from the avr and make sure your cable is rated for high speed. If no luck do a hdmi cable reset. Unplug All hdmi cables from tv, sources and avr as well as unplugging avr form outlet for about 15 min.
Edited by spager - 4/21/13 at 9:06am
post #17697 of 18955
Is this a better avr Denon AVR3312CI compare to denon 1612?
post #17698 of 18955
absolutely,

the 3312 is the CI "Custom Installer" series,

and preouts and much more. Batpig can give you the exacts im sure if he is lurking.


I have a 3312 and its great.
post #17699 of 18955
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Originally Posted by nc88keyz View Post

absolutely,

the 3312 is the CI "Custom Installer" series,

and preouts and much more. Batpig can give you the exacts im sure if he is lurking.


I have a 3312 and its great.

Or go to post 2 of this thread where he explains the model differences
post #17700 of 18955
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Originally Posted by d34dl1n3r View Post

Received a refurb 3312 from Accessories4Less and have a couple of issues and would like some input on the matters.

First issue. PC out via both HDMI and DVI to the receiver, then out to the tv via either HDMI and DVI gives the following results on text.



Now, that is with scaling/processing enabled on the 3312. Disabling any scaling/processing makes the image appear perfectly fine... but introduces another problem.

Second issue. When scaling/processing is disabled for any/all inputs on the 3312, and from any/all sources fed to it, I completely lose video signal whenever I press the menu button on the 3312's remote and it won't come back without either turning the receiver off and back on again, or turning the source off and back on again. Sometimes it's one or the other and it's random as to which has to be turned off/on in order to get video back. It's extremely annoying to lose video EVERY time I want to make a change to the receivers setting. The only way to prevent it is to turn the scaling back on... which then loops me back to the first issue again.

 

 

I also have the same text problem, I made a post about it some time ago. I don't have your second problem. The video will come back after exiting the menu. There is a program for Windows that will keep the HDMI connection "alive" but I can't think of the name...

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread/16300_100#post_22661652

 

 

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Originally Posted by Mrkazador View Post

 

Yep, same exact issue as this post right here

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread/7400_100#post_21406531

 

Here are some pictures

 

Video Convert OFF

1000

 

 

Video Convert ON (notice the blue and yellow around text)

1000

 

I tried messing with the various HDMI conversion settings on the receiver and it doesn't change anything. I'm actually using a laptop as a HTPC which has a i3 2330m (HD3000).

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