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post #17851 of 18966
Try setting Dolby Digital to OFF on the cable box.
post #17852 of 18966
I don't seem to have that option. I have an option to change "audio: digital output" to one of 3 things: HDMI, other, or Dolby Digital. Tried all 3 and no luck. Also, changed "Analog SAP" (not sure what that is) to On and still no luck.
post #17853 of 18966
The first setting would only apply to the digital outputs so will not have any effect on the analog output. Try resetting the cable box (pull the plug and leave unplugged for a few minutes).
post #17854 of 18966
Reset cable box and still nothing via analog.
post #17855 of 18966
Then at this point you'll need to take the issue up with your cable company. frown.gif
post #17856 of 18966
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Originally Posted by HAdiy View Post

I don't seem to have that option. I have an option to change "audio: digital output" to one of 3 things: HDMI, other, or Dolby Digital. Tried all 3 and no luck. Also, changed "Analog SAP" (not sure what that is) to On and still no luck.

I found this on Google for your receiver. See if you can find Pcm and select it.

I always had this problem until I set the output to Dolby - hit settings on the remote and there will be an option called "Devices", that opens a new menu and in that menu you have the ability to choose the audio output type. Set it to dolby and content that is in surround sound will be sent out properly and your receiver will recognize it properly. I believe by default it's set to PCM.

Adding,

SAP or Secondary Audio Programming uses a different frequency for a program that has this feature. Usually used for broadcasting in a different language.
Edited by spager - 5/12/13 at 8:01am
post #17857 of 18966
The cable box audio works over the HDMI connection? You don't have the box muted or the volume turned down? Have you connected the analog outputs to your TV to confirm that there's no audio there either?
post #17858 of 18966
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Originally Posted by spager View Post

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Originally Posted by HAdiy View Post

I don't seem to have that option. I have an option to change "audio: digital output" to one of 3 things: HDMI, other, or Dolby Digital. Tried all 3 and no luck. Also, changed "Analog SAP" (not sure what that is) to On and still no luck.

I found this on Google for your receiver. See if you can find Pcm and select it.

I always had this problem until I set the output to Dolby - hit settings on the remote and there will be an option called "Devices", that opens a new menu and in that menu you have the ability to choose the audio output type. Set it to dolby and content that is in surround sound will be sent out properly and your receiver will recognize it properly. I believe by default it's set to PCM.
That's all about digital. The OP is using analog for zone 2.
post #17859 of 18966
Changing the audio output to Dolby does not work. And, bslander is correct, I am trying to get audio to zone 2 via an analog signal.

Haven't tried connecting the RCA directly to the TV but I'll do that next if I can find a pair long enough.

Thanks guys!
post #17860 of 18966
I understand that but where he goes to set Digital there should be a selection for PCM which is analog.
post #17861 of 18966
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Originally Posted by spager View Post

I understand that but where he goes to set Digital there should be a selection for PCM which is analog.
No. PCM is digital, not analog. PCM is an acronym for Pulse Code Modulation, the technique used to digitally represent analog waves.
post #17862 of 18966
I can't access the analog inputs on my TV (Panny gt50) as it is wall mounted and there are no side inputs.

Any other suggestions?
post #17863 of 18966
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Originally Posted by HAdiy View Post

I can't access the analog inputs on my TV (Panny gt50) as it is wall mounted and there are no side inputs.

Any other suggestions?

Hi HAdiy, take it over to a relative or friend house and try it on their set.
post #17864 of 18966
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Originally Posted by HAdiy View Post

I can't access the analog inputs on my TV (Panny gt50) as it is wall mounted and there are no side inputs.

Any other suggestions?
That was just a suggestion to confirm that the problem is the cable box rather than the receiver. Find some device to plug it into to test the analog audio output.

There's no manual for your cable box. But the one for a similar model strongly suggests the analog audio outputs are always active. So, I think you should contact your cable company.
post #17865 of 18966
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Originally Posted by spager View Post

I understand that but where he goes to set Digital there should be a selection for PCM which is analog.

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Originally Posted by BIslander View Post

No. PCM is digital, not analog. PCM is an acronym for Pulse Code Modulation, the technique used to digitally represent analog waves.

Yes you are correct pcm is digital but when selected on your cable box it decodes it to analog. If he wants to test he could swap the red white cable with his blu-ray player that is proven to work with his avr. Also he could try to disconnect his Hdmi cable as maybe it will revert to analog audio for testing. I also read that there is a setup wizard maybe try rerunning it and see if there is an option to set both audio formats. As mentioned by the other posters calling your cable supplier will probably have your answers. Technical support may be open today.

If renting your cable box and no resolution to engage your analog outputs occur maybe they have a different model cable box that will.
Edited by spager - 5/12/13 at 11:14am
post #17866 of 18966
The cable box converts all digital sources to analog, not just PCM. The manual for a similar model even explains that when forcing the digital output to Dolby, you can still get usable sound to a device without a Dolby decoder by using the analog output. That suggests the analog output works regardless of the digital output setting, which is the way most playback devices work. At any rate, it looks like the cable box is not working correctly and should be replaced.
post #17867 of 18966
I will try to get a new cable box tomm...thanks!
post #17868 of 18966
I'm thinking about adding front heights to my AVR-1612 do most pair it up with a 100W amp?
post #17869 of 18966
While watching tv in 5.1, when switching to local commercials in 2.0, I hear an annoying click, then again when switching back. Anyone else experience this? Is it normal?

Much louder than the mute click, that batpig told us how to fix (change mute level from full to another setting).
Edited by SanchoPanza - 5/12/13 at 4:22pm
post #17870 of 18966
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by SubaruB4 View Post

I'm thinking about adding front heights to my AVR-1612 do most pair it up with a 100W amp?

You don't even need close to that much. The heights get very little action and that receiver doesn't even put out 100W to the main channels. I think an amp in the 50-75W range is more than sufficient.
post #17871 of 18966
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

While watching tv in 5.1, when switching to local commercials in 2.0, I hear an annoying click, then again when switching back. Anyone else experience this? Is it normal?

Much louder than the mute click, that batpig told us how to fix (change mute level from full to another setting).

That's probably a speaker relay clicking. What are the surround modes being output when the signal goes from 5.1 to 2.0? IIRC you have a 33xx model so if for example the receiver is switching from front heights to surround backs, or A to B front speakers, the relay clicks as it switches the assignable amps to a different pair of speakers.
post #17872 of 18966
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

While watching tv in 5.1, when switching to local commercials in 2.0, I hear an annoying click, then again when switching back. Anyone else experience this? Is it normal?

Much louder than the mute click, that batpig told us how to fix (change mute level from full to another setting).

That's probably a speaker relay clicking. What are the surround modes being output when the signal goes from 5.1 to 2.0? IIRC you have a 33xx model so if for example the receiver is switching from front heights to surround backs, or A to B front speakers, the relay clicks as it switches the assignable amps to a different pair of speakers.

yes, they are in Front heights, so that's it exactly; on the other hand the RF Amp is probably out; just got off the phone with Denon, sending it back for repair...2 Denons to repair in less than a year; oh, well...
post #17873 of 18966
Off to Denon she goes...amazing how good that old Sony DTR-DE1075 sounds, with settings set based on AVS/Audyssey knowledge.

Thanks to all here for knowledge!!!
post #17874 of 18966
Just got the 1912 a few weeks ago and I am in love with how much better it sounds than my early 2000's era Pioneer. I am having one problem with it though. After doing the Audyssey dynamic EQ everything sounds great except for my center channel. For some reason audyssey gives it too much bass, where voices in movies just sound unnatural and strange. Is there a way for me to adjust the eq specifically for the center channel, but leave everything else the same?

Thanks for any help.
post #17875 of 18966
Excessive low frequency output can be a result of Dynamic EQ being set too high for your source material or listening environment. DynEQ increases the relative volume of the lowest and highest frequencies as you turn down the volume. "Dynamic EQ Reference Level Offset" is described on page 103 of the owner's manual. Setting it to 10dB might be appropriate.

It affects all audio channels, though. I don't know of any way to adjust just the center channel.

However, you should verify that you have set all of the speakers to be "Small" with a crossover of at least 80Hz. You might be hearing more lows because the center channel is set to small but others are (inappropriately) set to large.

If you haven't already, please read through the Audyssey FAQ at http://www.avsforum.com/t/795421/official-audyssey-thread-faq-in-post-1/51750#post_21782993
post #17876 of 18966
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Originally Posted by HAdiy View Post

I will try to get a new cable box tomm...thanks!

Got a new cable box from Time Warner today (same make and model) and it worked. Thanks guys!
post #17877 of 18966
Hi guys I have denon 1612. Some of the movies from Netflix broadcast only HD. Not 5.1. What is the other or best alternative codec for dolby digital for movies?
post #17878 of 18966
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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

Off to Denon she goes...amazing how good that old Sony DTR-DE1075 sounds, with settings set based on AVS/Audyssey knowledge.

Thanks to all here for knowledge!!!

Did you send it Panurgy?
post #17879 of 18966
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Originally Posted by caloyzki View Post

Hi guys I have denon 1612. Some of the movies from Netflix broadcast only HD. Not 5.1. What is the other or best alternative codec for dolby digital for movies?
You have no control over the codec used by the source.

As for expanding stereo to 5.1, I suggest trying PLII. I use the music mode, even with movies, as it allows the user to set width and depth dimensions.
Edited by BIslander - 5/13/13 at 5:53pm
post #17880 of 18966
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Originally Posted by doctorwizz View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

Off to Denon she goes...amazing how good that old Sony DTR-DE1075 sounds, with settings set based on AVS/Audyssey knowledge.

Thanks to all here for knowledge!!!

Did you send it Panurgy?

Why,YES, I sent it, just like my 3311, to PANURGY; had quick service before. Had just taken it OUT of the CAB, & set it on TOP, for better ventilation, & much easier to change speakers, et Cetera.
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