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post #17911 of 18976
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Originally Posted by lardio View Post

I have the Denon 3312. I have reset the microprocessor and when i run the auto setup ( with the microphone ) there is no sound comming from my center and my 2 surround ! i just have sound from my sub,f.left and f.right

what is the problem ?

Have you run a test tone to check all the speakers?
post #17912 of 18976
yes ! nothing from the center and 2 surround.... this morning all the speakers was working fine ( 5.1 system ) :/

i have 4x boston acoustic A26
1x boston acoustic A225c center
1x boston acoustic ASW 650 subwoofer
post #17913 of 18976
i was watching a movie and suddenly i have losing the voice sound and after this i have reset the microprocessor and after nothing the center and the 2 surround
post #17914 of 18976
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Originally Posted by lardio View Post

i was watching a movie and suddenly i have losing the voice sound and after this i have reset the microprocessor and after nothing the center and the 2 surround

Call Denon, i assume the test tone was ok, or re reset microprocessor & try again. Last week I had my RF amp go bad, had to send it for repair. But I still had some sound coming from RF speaker. Have you tried tuner & another source?
post #17915 of 18976
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Check the "Deep Color Output" setting on the PS3/BDP is set to OFF.
It worked! Thanks again JD! You and Batpig do an amazing job at helping everyone and its much appreciated! smile.gif
post #17916 of 18976
lardio, maybe jdsmoothie &/or batpig have some better suggestions?
post #17917 of 18976
Thread Starter 
IMO you are on the money. Sounds defective to me.
post #17918 of 18976
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

System Setup ---> Option Setup ---> Source Delete (p. 63 OM)

Yes, that was it. I don't remember deleting it but, turned in back on and now it works fine.

Thanks!
post #17919 of 18976
Denon repair has been less than helpful, saying they signed for my package on 5/21, when FedEx says it was DELIVERED on the 15th. Had to e-mail them a copy of the receipt, which was included in the BOX.

Guess in a week, or 10 days, they'll have this unit back to me.

If I had it to do over again, don't think I'd buy Denon. They are the best in terms of features at that price point, but numbers and frequency of repairs...
post #17920 of 18976
A short tale for you guys.

Last Sunday my old Yamaha rx-v765's hdmi board got fried during a thunderstorm. I would like to have surround sound for memorial day weekend so I started looking for a new receiver.

I ordered a Denon 1712 from ac4less and opted for 2-day shipping to make sure I got it in time for the big weekend.

I got my refurbished Denon last night and proceeded through the initial setup, including programming my universal remote. Everything is good now and it's time to watch a movie. I wouldn't be writing this story if everything went right at this point.

Suddenly there is a horrible static noise coming from the center speaker. I turn off the receiver and swap the center and left front to see if the problem is in the speaker, wire or receiver. It is the receiver. Time to disconnect everything and reset the microprocessor. Microprocessor reset and now I get .5 second blinking red lights, ffs. I call Denon but they are closed for the night. I call back in the morning and they are going to pay for shipping this pos back and send me another one. We'll see how long it takes them to fix this. Maybe I will have a receiver in time for Labor Day.
post #17921 of 18976
Well I think I have a dumb question but I will ask anyway: I am the proud new owner of a smart HDTV, the Panasonic ST60. I have the Denon 2212, and of course all my gear (D* box, Blu-Ray, Roku) goes thru the Denon via HDMI and then of course the HDMI out to the TV. How do I get 5.1 audio from the Apps section of the TV? I do know that I will be utilizing the "Audio out" port from the TV (digital optical). My current set-up (of course complicated by my Harmony remote) utilizes the SAT function of the AVR for TV viewing, and of course the audio source is HDMI.

The AVR "knows" that the video and audio source from SAT is HDMI. Can I "add" a optical source to my SAT mode? I have audio of course thru the TV speakers but I want more!

Hope my questions aren't too confusing. Please help!
post #17922 of 18976
Thread Starter 
The thing to understand is that the SAT/CBL input is intended for an EXTERNAL tv source (your cable or sat box). There is a separate dedicated input for "TV" input for audio piped back from the TV. So you don't want to "add" it to your SAT/CBL input, you are going to have it setup as a separate input.

In the Input Assign screen (under Source Select in the GUI) you want to ensure that the OPT-1 input is assigned to "TV" (this is the default anyway so you probably won't need to change anything). Then just tune to the "TV" input on the receiver.

Everything beyond that is up to the settings in the Panny plasma. I think you need to change the speakers setting to "External Speakers" or something like that to activate the digital audio output for the TV's audio.
post #17923 of 18976
Much thanks BP!
post #17924 of 18976
Hello,

I was wondering if anyone can help me out with my situation. I have a 2112ci and I'm having static issues with my center channel.
It sounds like static mixed in with the sound of the audio. Almost scratchy.

I've tried to switch speakers around (Rear to Center) and the sound is the same when it comes to the center channel out of the 2112CI. That pretty much eliminates a faulty center channel.
I've also tried using another source for playback and the results are the same. I've switched the HDMI cable from the HTPC to the AVR and it's still the same problem.

I've checked the FAQ and trouble shooting section but there's no mention of the issue I'm currently having. Is there a way that the cables just for the center are affected by some sort of interference? I at my wits end trying to resolve my issue and I'd really appreciate any assistance for this.

Current setup: HTPC > AVR > Display
The Fronts are bi-amped if that makes any difference.
The firmware's been upgraded to the latest version and I've hard reseted the receiver.

I would gladly give out more information about the current set up if one needs it to help me troubleshoot the issue at hand.

Thanks
post #17925 of 18976
Thread Starter 
Considering you've done the basic troubleshooting already -- swapping speakers, swapping cables, trying different sources, microprocessor reset -- chances are it's a defective amp channel unfortunately frown.gif

Time to call Denon and seek out a repair....
post #17926 of 18976
Is there a way to have the AVR take a stereo signal and produce sound in all speakers of a 5.1 setup? If so, where would I find that in the 3312 manual?
post #17927 of 18976
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Is there a way to have the AVR take a stereo signal and produce sound in all speakers of a 5.1 setup? If so, where would I find that in the 3312 manual?

PUSH the MUSIC button on your remote until you get PLIIx M
post #17928 of 18976
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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Is there a way to have the AVR take a stereo signal and produce sound in all speakers of a 5.1 setup? If so, where would I find that in the 3312 manual?

PUSH the MUSIC button on your remote until you get PLIIx M
Thanks.
post #17929 of 18976
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Is there a way to have the AVR take a stereo signal and produce sound in all speakers of a 5.1 setup? If so, where would I find that in the 3312 manual?

PUSH the MUSIC button on your remote until you get PLIIx M
Thanks.

you're welcome, I don't know what the page number is, but this is the best, in my opinion, Music Format, try the others, too, you may like one of them better...cool.gif
post #17930 of 18976
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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Is there a way to have the AVR take a stereo signal and produce sound in all speakers of a 5.1 setup? If so, where would I find that in the 3312 manual?

PUSH the MUSIC button on your remote until you get PLIIx M
Thanks.

you're welcome, I don't know what the page number is, but this is the best, in my opinion, Music Format, try the others, too, you may like one of them better...cool.gif
Thanks again. I wasn't looking to use that option. Some people thought that they were getting 5.1 from external sources through their TV sets. I wanted an example of what they might be hearing. I found what I thought it might be in the manual, but I never trust myself decoding a Denon manual. eek.gif
post #17931 of 18976
I was hoping that your response wasn't the case. At any rate, thanks for the prompt response batpig.
post #17932 of 18976

I have a 2312, and I am using PLIIx M, but I don't get any sound from my surrounds or back surrounds when playing a 2.0 program on DTV.  On the front left panel it only shows, FL and FR, on the right it shows all my 7.1 speakers.  However, all three front speakers produce sound when playing a 2.0 program.

 

So I guess I am doing something wrong, any ideas?

post #17933 of 18976
From your description, it looks like your receiver is functioning correctly. Your display shows outputs for all channels and you are getting sound in the center channel, which does not exist with stereo. Some stereo sources have very little content that the PLIIx algorithm can extract for the surround channels. What happens when you use PLIIx with CDs? Music is more likely to have extractable surround data than dialog heavy stereo TV shows.
post #17934 of 18976

Thanks for the response.  No, I haven't attempted to play a CD yet.

 

The reason for my post was I read on this thread that, with a 7.1 setup, DD PLIIx is generally the best setting as it will simulate 7.1 from 2.0 and 5.1 audio.  So I guess the problem is, as you mentioned, that my source does not have enough content to extract for the surround channels.

 

Many thanks again.

post #17935 of 18976
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Originally Posted by sytyguy View Post

I have a 2312, and I am using PLIIx M, but I don't get any sound from my surrounds or back surrounds when playing a 2.0 program on DTV.  On the front left panel it only shows, FL and FR, on the right it shows all my 7.1 speakers.  However, all three front speakers produce sound when playing a 2.0 program.


So I guess I am doing something wrong, any ideas?

You can also try Multi Ch Stereo which will add sound to your surrounds but I don't think it will add any content to sur. backs at least it doesn't for my wides.
post #17936 of 18976
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Originally Posted by spager View Post


You can also try Multi Ch Stereo which will add sound to your surrounds but I don't think it will add any content to sur. backs at least it doesn't for my wides.

That worked as you mentioned, many thanks.

post #17937 of 18976
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Originally Posted by sytyguy View Post

That worked as you mentioned, many thanks.

I usually use Multi Ch Stereo for basic tv that gives me a fuller listening experience some prefer a simulated mode but I always use a simulated mode for 2 ch. Movies to get the full sound effects.
post #17938 of 18976
Multichannel stereo duplicates the L/R stereo pair to the surround pairs, meaning voices end up in the surrounds at the same level as the fronts. Imaging is destroyed. I personally don't like hearing voices over my shoulders when they belong centered in front. Modes such as PLII and Neo:6 do intelligent channel expansion so that sounds that phantom image in stereo get anchored in actual speakers. But, multichannel stereo will definitely produce sound all around.
post #17939 of 18976
I get sounds from any speaker I happen to be using, but it varies by material.
post #17940 of 18976
Well, I'm joining the club! I'd bought a 1312 about a week ago but am selling that to a friend as soon as my 1712 shows up later this week. I'd ordered before I did all the research (and before finding this thread) and while the 1312 sounded good and had the basic features I was looking for I'm really looking forward to getting the 1712 with the Audyssey to set it all up like it should be. For speakers I went with the Energy RC Micro 5.1. I'll probably upgrade to some other Energy speakers for the front pair and use the existing ones for surround back, eventually.

I'm using it in my living room with my TV, Cable box, Xbox, Apple TV, And a yet to be purchased BD player - all via HDMI. My old system was a Technics SA GX910 with a huge pair of Infinity Reference 6 speakers - all pretty old and the wife didn't like the size of the speakers. Not t mention the foam on them is all crumbled from age and being in storage and the display on the amp went out years ago. The old system hadn't been used in many years. I'm really happy to have a new system on the way.

I'm really thankfull for this amazing resource and all the information here. I'll be reading more here when I have questions and posting if I can't find the answer.
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