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Originally Posted by caloyzki View Post

Yes is only 2112ci. I couldn't get back the calibrated isf for my tv anymore. How to get it back? Which one i need to change?

Although you can set the I/p Scaler setting to OFF for each source input, you must leave the Video Convert setting to ON in order to get the GUI overlay.
post #18032 of 18969
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Although you can set the I/p Scaler setting to OFF for each source input, you must leave the Video Convert setting to ON in order to get the GUI overlay.
Where to go foe I/p scaller setting to Off? I dont see that. I dont see the videp convert settings to ON too. I cant see it. Where are those options? Sorry guys.
post #18033 of 18969
Oops! Sorry, forgot that the 2112CI doesn't have a video card installed so there is no Video Convert or I/p Scaler setting that you have to worry about.
post #18034 of 18969
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Oops! Sorry, forgot that the 2112CI doesn't have a video card installed so there is no Video Convert or I/p Scaler setting that you have to worry about.
Thanks. So what i have with my denon 1612 is the same witth 2112? That's good to know. Atleast i still have the isf pro calibrated settings witb my tv.
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My hearing impaired parents have a 1312 with desktop speakers in 2.0 configuration sitting on each of their chair-side tables. They are very happy with this setup, but at times, they would like to individually control or mute their individual speakers.

Now, before I receive any lectures on how this is a poor use for an AVR, they are HAPPY with it and otherwise don't want to change it. They are not interested in "TV ears" and other solutions. They just want to be able to mute their individual speakers. At the moment, what they do is lay the speaker, face-down, on the floor when they want it muffled. Yes, it's comical, but lets move beyond that.

I feel like a simple A/B switch placed inline on each speaker would likely be harmful to the Denon. They currently just have some small Infinity bookshelf speakers, but they'd be willing to purchase different speakers with built-in power switch or volume control. Any suggestions?
post #18036 of 18969
There is Ch Level on the remote that will allow adjustment for each speaker. You could learn and show them how to use that feature. If they need separate controls buy a universal remote and they could adjust their own volume level or buy a speaker with volume control .

If you are familiar with Harmony remotes (works well with Denon avr's) maybe you could set one up for them while the other could use the Denon remote.
Edited by spager - 6/12/13 at 2:14pm
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Originally Posted by spager View Post

There is Ch Level on the remote that will allow adjustment for each speaker. You could learn and show them how to use that feature. If they need separate controls buy a universal remote and they could adjust their own volume level or buy a speaker with volume control .
Speakers with volume control would be perfect, but I can't find anything like that.
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Originally Posted by 120inna55 View Post

My hearing impaired parents have a 1312 with desktop speakers in 2.0 configuration sitting on each of their chair-side tables. They are very happy with this setup, but at times, they would like to individually control or mute their individual speakers.

Now, before I receive any lectures on how this is a poor use for an AVR, they are HAPPY with it and otherwise don't want to change it. They are not interested in "TV ears" and other solutions. They just want to be able to mute their individual speakers. At the moment, what they do is lay the speaker, face-down, on the floor when they want it muffled. Yes, it's comical, but lets move beyond that.

I feel like a simple A/B switch placed inline on each speaker would likely be harmful to the Denon. They currently just have some small Infinity bookshelf speakers, but they'd be willing to purchase different speakers with built-in power switch or volume control. Any suggestions?

Another option should they decide to get TV Ears down the road would be to connect the TV Ears to the Surr Back pre-outs and set the AVR to "Multi CH Stereo" which they can do using the remote.
post #18039 of 18969
^^^

Give Radio Shack a call. Maybe they have an inline volume control or a volume controlled speaker.
post #18040 of 18969
For crying out loud, here comes the TV Ears again. ;-) No. That's not what they want.

I've seen plenty of inline volume controls on amazon. They're mostly for wall mount, but I could make it work. Would they hurt the Denon?
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I have the Denon AVR-1712 and a pair of Ascend Sierra-1 bookshelf speakers. No subwoofer. For music I manually set them to "Large" and for TV/movies I set them to "Small" with a crossover frequency of 60Hz. I want to set them to 50Hz, but it's not an option. In the low range the choices are 40Hz or 60Hz. Do I have to run Audyssey (I haven't yet) to be able to set it to 50Hz?
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If I had no SW, I'd run Audyssey, and let it set the crossovers...
post #18043 of 18969
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Originally Posted by p3Orion View Post

I have the Denon AVR-1712 and a pair of Ascend Sierra-1 bookshelf speakers. No subwoofer. For music I manually set them to "Large" and for TV/movies I set them to "Small" with a crossover frequency of 60Hz. I want to set them to 50Hz, but it's not an option. In the low range the choices are 40Hz or 60Hz. Do I have to run Audyssey (I haven't yet) to be able to set it to 50Hz?

First note that when there is no subwoofer in the setup, the speakers default to LARGE and the crossover does not apply. That said 50Hz is not an available selection; however, you should run Audyssey regardless to EQ your speakers. If you refer to p. 62 in your Owner's manual, you'll see the note below that defines what crossover frequencies are available.


Edited by jdsmoothie - 6/13/13 at 2:35am
post #18044 of 18969
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

First note that when there is no subwoofer in the setup, the speakers default to LARGE and the crossover does not apply. That said 50Hz is not an available selection; however, you should run Audyssey regardless to EQ your speakers. If you refer to p. 62 in your Owner's manual, you'll see the note below that defines what crossover frequencies are available.


Thanks. When I set the crossover manually to 60Hz, I set the speakers to "Small" and put "Yes" for subwoofer, despite not having one. The crossover applies in this case, right? I'm doing this to protect my speakers from low frequency excursion.
post #18045 of 18969
Although this will work without having run Audyssey, once you run Audyssey and then set the sub to Yes afterwards, the AVR will prompt you to run Audyssey again.
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Thread Starter 
Also it's totally unnecessary. Those speakers will not blow up from a full range signal.
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Is there anybody here using denon 2112ci? If yes, have you tried to use the denon app for android? Because i tried it but it won't detect the avr. Maybe one of the owners here can confirm this? It always said it's not supported.
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Thanks a lot. I downladed the one with better reviews. Thanks.
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I purchased my 3312 a little more than a year ago. I recently purchased Audio Technica ATH-ESW9 headphones. Today for the first time I connected my headphones to my Denon. The headphones sound great on my iPod, tablet and laptop but they sound horrible on my receiver. There is no bass at all and I have to really crank up the volume to hear anything. I searched this thread and didn't find anyone with the same issue. I'm plugging the headphones in the headphone jack in front of the receiver. I see some post mentioning connecting the head phones wirelessly on a different zone but my headphones are wired. Anyone know what I may be doing wrong? Thanks.
post #18051 of 18969
^^
Try selecting the Denon DSP "Virtual" surround mode (p.59 OM).
post #18052 of 18969
I would like advice on getting more consistent subwoofer output.

I have a budget setup.
My Amp is a Denon 1612.
Front Speakers are Pioneer SP-FS52-LR.
Surround speakers are Sony B3000.
Center channel is Sony CN5000.
My (new) subwoofer is a Polk PSW505.

I've had the rest of the setup for a bit over a year. I just added the subwoofer.

I setup the system using the Denon "Audyssey" setup help thing built into the amp. Denon "Audyssey" uses a microphone placed at the position of a listener to automatically adjust the levels of each channel. The mic came with the amp, and the adjustment is software in the amp. It does a much better job than my fumbling with the levels myself. Generally, sound is nice and clear.

My question has to do with how the level of the subwoofer seems to vary depending on the source material.

If the source material is a true 5.1 (Dolby, DTS etc) then the subwoofer is almost too powerful. If the source is two-channel stereo the subwoofer level is very weak. It is weak whether I use the stereo, pro logic, or any of the other 2-channel or upscaled two-channel audio output settings.

If anyone is familiar with Denon amp setup, can you give me any advice on how to get the subwoofer to act more consistently, regardless of the audio source material?

I'm guessing that it is a consequence of movie soundtracks simply having the subwoofer channel intentionally boosted to the extreme. I have simply been turning the volume on the sub down or up depending on the source (using the knob on the subwoofer's amp). If I leave the subwoofer volume low from watching a movie, then when I switch to listening to music in 2.1, the bass is anemic. If I leave it at a moderate setting, the bass is over the top when watching a 5.1 movie or TV show.

Any advice on getting the setup to perform more consistently is welcome.

Cheers
post #18053 of 18969
Suggest you review the Audyssey 101/FAQ Guide linked in my sig to learn more about Audyssey setup.
post #18054 of 18969
Well, your advice to read the Audyssey 101 guide helped a bit. I had the gain/volume on my sub's amp set at about 50%. Deep in that Audyssey guide it lets you know that if Audyssey is adjusting the sub level down or up a lot, that you should turn the gain down so that it can match the levels properly. Apparently my Sub is a lot more powerful than the rest of my system. I ended up setting the volume of the sub very low to get Audyssey to fall within the +/-3.5db range.

I also went ahead and set the crossover being sent to the sub from the other channels at 80 (rather than the 40 which Audyssey selected). This really won't help my specific problem but it will reduce the workload of my AVR amp if I want to listen loud.

I've been watching movies and listening to music for a couple hours now. My solution has been two-fold (besides getting the volume level corrected on my sub's amp). First, I cranked up the level of my center channel. I think that the mixing of movies and TV are too big for my tastes. If I boost the center level I can keep the overall level down and get rid of some of the over-the-top bass (along with the overdone swelling music in films). Second, since I have my center channel jacked up, I'll just listen to music in stereo mode (2.1) so my center channel adjustment won't mess up the levels of my music too much.

Other feedback is welcome.

Thanks for your help.
post #18055 of 18969
Suggest you also enable Audyssey Dynamic EQ if not already enabled as this will help to boost the bass/surround audio for listening levels below reference (ie. 0db/80). You can then also use the Reference Level Offset set to 10db for music and TV sources should the bass be too pronounced (ie. overpowering the center channel dialogue).
post #18056 of 18969
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

^^
Try selecting the Denon DSP "Virtual" surround mode (p.59 OM).

Thank you very much for the reply. Strangely when I connected my headphones to my 3312 today it worked fine. It works in all of the modes available for headphones. I'm not sure what was going on the last time I tried it but it sounded like crap and I played around with it for quite awhile. Maybe it's something with the jack adaptor. I probably won't be using the headphones on my receiver much anyway because in my search I see where it can cause your speakers to permanently disconnect. Thanks again.
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Originally Posted by Eddie E View Post

I probably won't be using the headphones on my receiver much anyway because in my search I see where it can cause your speakers to permanently disconnect. Thanks again.

Really? News to me.
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Really? News to me.


You will want to use zone 2/3 for headphones.

jdg
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Thread Starter 
Eddie E -- those posts you reference refer to BROKEN units. You shouldn't not use the headphone jack for its intended function because some people's headphone jacks broke.
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