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post #18241 of 18955

@bartbrn

 

Have you thought about a gigabit switch, such as this one, which would plug into one port of your router, http://www.amazon.com/D-Link-8-Port-Gigabit-Switch-DGS-1008G/dp/B003X7TRWO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1374702337&sr=8-3&keywords=8+port+gigabit+poe+switch

post #18242 of 18955
bartbrn,

I use http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-ProSafe-Gigabit-Ethernet-Desktop/dp/B0000BVYT3/ref=pd_bxgy_e_text_y to add 4 more ethernet ports. It is totally transparent, no drivers or any way to or need to configure it.

I stream pictures and video and music from my Windows PC to the Denon 2312ci. The PC needs to have a "DLNA server" running (Windows Media Player) to do this. For the mac, search for "DLNA server" to get the same functionality.
post #18243 of 18955
Hi..i need help. I did try to search for this but I couldn't find a relevant answer.... I am patching back together my HT after a lengthy divorce (goods in storage for 8 years)...finally got back some of the property settlement and also bought some new stuff. He got the old Denon 3208...no biggie, as I bought the Samsung 55" LED 3D and needed HDMI input, so I bought a very lightly used 1912 (guy had it in his bedroom and wife didn't like noise in there). I felt pretty good figuring it all out and hooking up everything (I HATE the disc for a manual...such a pain!) until I reached a screeching halt.

I bought two SVS 20-CS39 tube subs (unpowered) with a Samson 700 amp and used them with the 3208 ten years ago. When I went to hook up the Samson, I found there is no Pre-out... it never occurred to me to look for a pre-out...I am somewhat dumbfounded as a Pre-out used to come on all of them!

I went into another forum and they said just to go ahead and hook it into the "sub-out"...but doesn't some kind of level step-down have to be done when going from a speaker line- out...some kind of conversion? I am so rusty now with this stuff it isn't funny...used to have a pretty good handle on it all but it's been ten years since I even bought a component.

1) Can I hook up my external amp to the 1912?

2) Will the tubes work with the wattage of the 1912?

I'm hoping there is a fix.
Susan
PS I love this page..even if it is like reading a very looooong technical manual....smile.gif
post #18244 of 18955
The sub pre-out on an AVR is designed to be connected to a sub amplifier, either built in to a powered sub or to a dedicated amp that the sub is then connected to as in your case, so as was previously suggested make that connection and you should be good to go. smile.gif
post #18245 of 18955
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Originally Posted by mmmdonuts79 View Post

Apologies if i'm not making sense, i just had a play with the remote and what i'm referring to is "Channel level" Does it make sense now? so yeah i keep having to change how i like it between movies and listening to music. Can that be setup so when i switch between inputs my settings are saved?

Yes, AFAIK, the channel levels can be independently saved between the different Quick Select buttons.
post #18246 of 18955
ah..so it is a "sub pre-out"!!!!!!!!

Thank you so much Mr Smoothie....you have made my day!!!!!

Now to tame this beast! (the 1912)

Susan



ps I can't tell you how grateful; I am for this thread!
post #18247 of 18955
sytyguy and alokeprasad (and anyone else who's interested), here are some answers I got on the AVS "Networks, Media Servers & Content Streaming" forum:
Quote:
Originally Posted by bluechunks View Post

Point 1, question 2:

This is your lucky day.

Buy a multi-port gigabit switch from Amazon (example or example).

Plug a network cable into one of the ports of the Airport Extreme and the other into the Port 1 (or LAN) of the new switch. Plug stuff into the new switch. Done.

Point 2, question 1:

You will need to run a DLNA server on your iMac. Two that I've used with success on my iMac are Twonky and Serviio.

....or....

Point 2, question 2:

Since you have an iMac the absolutely simplest method would use an AppleTV connected via HDMI to stream audio, video, and photos from the iMac running iTunes.

To which I replied:
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Originally Posted by bartbrn View Post

Thanks! I got the NETGEAR GS105 ProSafe 5-Port Gigabit Ethernet Desktop Switch
OK, I get the DLNA part, but when you say "use an AppleTV connected via HDMI to stream audio, video, and photos from the iMac" do you mean "connect AppleTV to the iMac's Mini DisplayPort, with an HDMI-to Mini DisplayPort cable" (I actually have one), or do you mean "connect the iMac to Apple TV via ethernet, then connect the Apple TV to the Denon with a standard male-to-male HDMI cable? I should have added that the Denon claims to be AirPlay compatible, but is AirPlay limited strictly to mp3 files?

Another perhaps possible option is the Google Chromecast HDMI Streaming Media Player, but the architecture of my house makes getting WiFi from my Airport Extreme to a node where my A/V setup resides a bit technically problematic (AND I prefer hardwired -- ethernet -- solutions to WiFi anyway, for anything much more complex than text). Also, AFAIK, Google Chromecast is strictly for web content , while what I want, among other things, is to bore friends and family into a stupor with my photos (iPhoto) and video (mp4s), which are all on my iMac.

If you had to choose between the DLNA server solution or the Apple TV solution for getting this bored-to-a-stupor content from my iMac to my Denon, what are the advantages and disadvantages, and which would you choose?

If I'm not making any sense here, please let me know.

Thanks for your very detailed and helpful answers. I love this forum!

Bart

To which bluechunks replied:
Quote:
Originally Posted by bluechunks View Post

The iMac and the AppleTV don't have to be in the same room as long as they are both connected to the same network.
FWIW, I selected all of the above.

I use the AppleTV for video and photos from our iMac (ease of use) and also run a DLNA server that sends video to a Blu Ray player and music files to a Yamaha AVR via DLNA (this way I can listen to music without having the TV on to see the AppleTV interface).

While I'm not absolutely thrilled to shell out another $100 for an Apple TV, it seems to be the clean solution. I will try the Mac DLNA solutions Twonky and Serviio, but does anyone know how I get the Denon to communicate with the DLNA server?

Thanks again and again... we non-techies would be lost in the wilderness without these forums.

Bart
post #18248 of 18955
Thread Starter 
Here's the way to think about it in simple terms: what you are trying to do is "beam" content (audio and video) wirelessly from your Mac to your HT setup. DLNA and Airplay (via the Apple TV) are two different ways of doing this.

DLNA is the "open source" way of doing things, it supports all sorts of platforms and content and is supported by many devices (like video game systems, Blu-ray players, etc.). It's a standardized protocol that allows any DLNA certified devices on the same network to "talk" to each other and stream content. Airplay and the Apple TV are a proprietary "closed" system that will basically only work from other Apple/iTunes devices.

On the computer side, you need software running that "serves" the content up so it can be seen by other "endpoints" on the network. This can be 3rd party media server software like Twonky (which will work with DLNA and serve media files up to any DLNA compatible endpoint), or you can do it with iTunes when you have an Apple compatible endpoint.

Your receiver already has Airplay built in for audio only streaming. So if all you want to do is send your music from iTunes to the receiver, you don't need to do anything else. It also has DLNA built in for audio streaming, so similarly if you have audio content not in iTunes, you can use Twonky or another DLNA server to send audio to the Denon natively.

If you want to add video streaming, then you need additional hardware. The benefit of the Apple TV is that it will integrate seamlessly with anything you have in iTunes (whether on a PC or on your iDevice) and also will provide 3rd party streaming services like Netflix and Hulu for downloading video content on the fly (although in your case your Roku 3 can already do this part). The disadvantage of the Apple TV is again that it's a "closed" platform, so any videos you have on your computer that aren't in iTunes won't be able to stream. To stream other video formats that aren't iTunes compatible file types, you would need a device that is DLNA compliant for video streaming also.

So summing up:

1. if you are satisfied with the video streaming from your Roku 3, and all you want to do is stream audio from iTunes on your PC or your iPhone/iPad to the HT setup, then you don't need to buy anything else. Just use the built-in Airplay on the receiver for streaming music and call it a day.

2. if your video is all in iTunes compatible formats (either downloaded video from the Apple Store, an MPEG-4 video with .MP4 or .M4V filetype, or a Quicktime format .MOV file) then an Apple TV will allow you to stream it to your system from the Mac, and you can probably sell the Roku 3 or repurpose it in another room, and use the Apple TV for Netflix etc. in addition to streaming your videos form the Mac.

3. if you have a bunch of video files in non iTunes compatible formats, then you will probably need to add a different piece of hardware like a DLNA compliant Blu-ray player, PS3, or media streamer like WDTV.
post #18249 of 18955
Quote:
Originally Posted by batpig 
3. if you have a bunch of video files in non iTunes compatible formats, then you will probably need to add a different piece of hardware like a DLNA compliant Blu-ray player, PS3, or media streamer like WDTV.

Batpig -- Thank you for that excellent and edifying explanation of DLNA and the choices and the reasons for each. As I think I've remarked on your own site, you are one of those talented few that can condense arcane technical topics into coherent précises comprehensible even to the terminally Luddite like me.

As far as my current needs, I think #3 is the way I should go, even though I already have a Roku 3 (and a Roku 2 XS). Though I have been a Mac-only user, IT tech (believe it or not, but not for a dozen years, and technology has marched right past me, leaving me as less than the dust beneath its chariot wheels), graphic designer, photo editor, and have even suffered the miseries of not only USING QuarkXPress, but teaching OTHERS to use it) since 1989, one thing that has always bothered me about Apple products and company policies is the perpetually-closed, "if-it's-not-made-in-Cupertino-we-don't-want-to-hear-about-it" nature of both hardware and software -- anyone who's spent any time talking with Apple Care (and I've quite literally spent years: on one problem alone, 14 months of telephone and an in-home tech visit before Apple finally threw in the towel and gave me a new iMac) knows exactly what I'm talking about. The Apple TV is typical: if what you want to stream doesn't fit into the iTunes paradigm, you're frakked, as they say on Battlestar Galactica.

So, I checked out the offerings from Western Digital on Amazon:

WD TV Play Media Player $57.99:

Plays your photos and home videos in Full-HD 1080p

Video Formats supported: AVI (Xvid, AVC, MPEG4, VC-1), MKV (h.264, x.264, AVC, MPEG4, VC-1) TS/TP/M2T/M2TS (MPEG4, AVC, VC-1), MP4/MOV (MPEG4, AVC), WMV9, FLV (AVC)

Audio Formats Supported: MP3, WAV/PCM/LPCM, WMA, AAC, FLAC, MKA, AIF/AIFF, OGG, Dolby TrueHD

Image formats Supported: JPEG, GIF, TIF/TIFF, BMP, PNG



WD TV Live Streaming Media Player Wi-Fi 1080p $89.00:

Video Formats supported: AVI (Xvid, AVC, MPEG1/2/4), MPG/MPEG, VOB, MKV (h.264, x.264, AVC, MPEG1/2/4, VC-1),TS/TP/M2T (MPEG1/2/4, AVC, VC-1) MP4/MOV (MPEG4, h.264), M2TS, FLV (h.264)

Audio Formats Supported: MP3, WAV/PCM/LPCM, WMA, AAC, FLAC, MKA, AIF/AIFF, OGG, Dolby Digital, DTS

Image formats Supported: JPEG, GIF, TIF/TIFF, BMP, PNG

Doesn't seem like there's much difference, but reading the customer reviews says otherwise, and it's obvious the WD TV Live is the better product of the two, and more than justifies the $30 price bump, which puts it close to the cost of an Apple TV, but -- going by the features and reviews of all three products: the 2 WDs and AppleTV -- the WD TV Live is the far more versatile box, especially considering that the user is confined to what you can get the purposely-constipated iTunes to pass through, and this particular user has neither the time nor energy to reformat all my content that doesn't comply with iTunes..

Do I assume I still need a DLNA client with the WD TV Live?

Concerning the NETGEAR GS105 ProSafe 5-Port Gigabit Ethernet Desktop Switch -- am I correct in assuming that I can leave my Airport Extreme Base Station where it is, run ONE ethernet cable from a port on the Base Station (right now I'm running TWO e'net cables from the Base Station to my my A/V location for the Roku 3 and Denon ethernet-in), and place the NETGEAR switch at my A/V location, giving me 5 whole ports and short e'net cable runs to my A/V components? Does anyone have any preference for ethernet cabling? I've been using Belkin Cat6, and the Roku streams beautifully.

Thanks again!

Bart

Any comments or suggestions on my ratiocination on this subject greatly appreciated, as usual.

Peace

Bart
post #18250 of 18955
Thread Starter 
Thanks, edification is my goal smile.gif

I'm pretty sure the WDTV requires a DLNA client on the other end to serve up the media files. Since you already have the Roku for streaming net content, then all you really need to add is something which can access your videos on the Mac, so I think that will work fine.

Your understanding of the ethernet switch is correct. You hook up the switch to one port on the base station and then you have five new ports to utilize. I don't think you should fret about specific cabling for ethernet, especially for short runs. Any decent quality Cat6 should be fine.
post #18251 of 18955

I've been using the WD TV Live for several years.  I currently backup all my owned DVD and Blu-ray movies to one of 2 TB disks and hook it up via a docking station to the WD TV.  Now the WD becomes my movie player, and considering the size of it and the dock station it is easy to transport anywhere we go, particularly on vacation, if we have down time.  I also have a wireless adapter hooked into the WD, so I can easily stream if I feel the need.

 

Great little device.

post #18252 of 18955
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Originally Posted by sytyguy View Post

I've been using the WD TV Live for several years.  I currently backup all my owned DVD and Blu-ray movies to one of 2 TB disks and hook it up via a docking station to the WD TV.  Now the WD becomes my movie player, and considering the size of it and the dock station it is easy to transport anywhere we go, particularly on vacation, if we have down time.  I also have a wireless adapter hooked into the WD, so I can easily stream if I feel the need.

Great little device.

SyTyguy -- "I currently backup all my owned DVD and Blu-ray movies to one of 2 TB disks and hook it up via a docking station to the WD TV." Can you tell me how you did this, and what docking station you used? I have a 2TB drive just waiting to do the same. I saw that the NEXT price level WD TV device comes with a 1 or 2 TB drive, but at a cost increase far in excess of what you'd pay for a couple 2TB drives.

Batpig, thanks once again, and thanks sytyguy!

Bart
post #18253 of 18955

Here's an example of a docking station, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153066&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-External+Enclosures-_-N82E16817153066&gclid=CJz90rnTy7gCFSNyQgodsngAFg

 

You can find others by doing a search, I.E: "hdd docking station"

 

You need AnyDvd or DVDFAB (do a search), and for DVD's you will need something that can copy the movie to a HDD.  For Blu-Ray go here and it is free, http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716

 

Best of luck

post #18254 of 18955
Thread Starter 
That's another good point, something like the WDTV gives you the option of loading your movies onto an external hard drive and connecting it directly to the box for direct access, so you don't even need to stream it from the computer. If you're willing to spend the time ripping DVD's and Blu-rays onto a drive that's a nice benefit.
post #18255 of 18955

DVD's take about 10-15 minutes, Blu-Rays take at most 2hrs.  However, I have a very fast computer (overclocked to 3.9Ghz),and 3.0 USB's as the target. 

post #18256 of 18955
Quote:
Originally Posted by sytyguy View Post

Here's an example of a docking station, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153066&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-External+Enclosures-_-N82E16817153066&gclid=CJz90rnTy7gCFSNyQgodsngAFg

You can find others by doing a search, I.E: "hdd docking station"

You need AnyDvd or DVDFAB (do a search), and for DVD's you will need something that can copy the movie to a HDD.  For Blu-Ray go here and it is free, http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716

Best of luck
post #18257 of 18955
Sorry for the screw-up reply -- I'm replying on my Kindle Fire HD, yet another device I haven't remotely mastered. Speaking of remotes, I'll get to my WD TV Live & docking station questions in a moment, but first I have ?s about what appears to be a firmware update that I can't determine whether it has to do with my AVR332CI or my Panasonic Viera: when I fire up my AVR332CI and Viera TV, I get a screen overlay that says there's a firmware update. I grab the remotes for both those devices, plus the URC-WR7 programmable remote, and try to use the up/down/select buttons to get the firmware update. The only reason I think it's Denon update is that I've noticed several posts by other Denon AVR model owners talking about firmware updates. However, no matter which remote I try nothing happens, and after a few seconds the screen overlay goes away. Any hot tips?

On the HDD docking station subject, the 2TB drive I'd use with the WD TV Live is in a USB external enclosure, and any app for copying video to HDD needs to be Intel-Mac OSX 10.7.x - compatible. I'll do a search.

And speaking of kindle Fire HDs, I thought I saw somewhere that that there's a Kindle Fire app that's a remote for Denon AVRs. I searched Kindle apps and came up with nothing. Anybody know anything about this? I wish I could ind a remote I can understand; I'd hoped the URC-WR7 was it, but though it's almost there, my brain -- such as it is -- still hasn't wrapped around it.

Thanks

Bart
post #18258 of 18955
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Any hot tips?

Sounds like the Denon, it prompts you with an on-screen message when there's a firmware update available and you turn it on. Just use the remote to enter the GUI manually and navigate to the network section and do the update
post #18259 of 18955
Quote:
 I wish I could ind a remote I can understand

@bartbrn

 

One of the best remotes I have encountered is the Logictech (SP) Harmony remotes.  I currently have the Harmony one and the Harmony 900 (RF).  If you purchase any of them they come with an installation that beats most remotes.  After you install the installation programs, it asks what the manufacture is, then the model#, and perhaps a few other questions.  It then installs all the options into the Harmony.  There is nothing to do later, at least, that as been my experience.

 

And it all works!!

post #18260 of 18955
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Sounds like the Denon, it prompts you with an on-screen message when there's a firmware update available and you turn it on. Just use the remote to enter the GUI manually and navigate to the network section and do the update

I've tried to use the Denon remote to get into the GUI, but I'm apparently not using the correct button sequence -- as soon as the firmware notice appears, I try to use the up/down/center select buttons, but the on-screen display "Enter" button never illuminates. What do I have to do to get into the GUI from the Denon remote?

Thanks again!

Bart
post #18261 of 18955
^^^


Bart;

First I would install Plex on your iMack. since Plex is already on your Roku. I would google how to set up with a Mack. This would get you going. A quick search of Roku tells me that this would work well Music with a very slick interface. It will also do video and it will trans code on the fly for video that it does not support. Not sure how it will handle BD quality video but I would give it a try.

I also have WD live and it plays most video formats flawlessly but I have not played much BD quality through it. The Wd live Media player will connect to your network and grab your content straight from your PC or Mack so no need for a docking station or 3rd party client to play . Now for music the WD live media Player is just plain bad with a lack luster interface with poor playlist options so I do not recommend using a WD Media Live for music at all.

I would try plex through roku and iMack and if Video isn't acceptable I would invest in WD Media Player for Movies and TV shows only and use the Roku for Music with Plex.
Edited by spager - 7/26/13 at 7:34pm
post #18262 of 18955
Quote:
Originally Posted by bartbrn View Post

I've tried to use the Denon remote to get into the GUI, but I'm apparently not using the correct button sequence -- as soon as the firmware notice appears, I try to use the up/down/center select buttons, but the on-screen display "Enter" button never illuminates. What do I have to do to get into the GUI from the Denon remote?

Thanks again!

Bart

You must first hit amp to engage Denon then Menu.
post #18263 of 18955
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Originally Posted by sytyguy View Post

@bartbrn

One of the best remotes I have encountered is the Logictech (SP) Harmony remotes....  There is nothing to do later, at least, that as been my experience.

And it all works!!

I have a Harmony 300 from a couple years ago when I was just going to try to hook up my old-but-still-great-picture Panasonic 27" CRT to my 20+ year-old Denon AVR3000 -- antique though that Denon is, Logitech has the codes for it. So when I decided it was time to go with an HDTV, I entered the programming for the new Denon AVR3312CI into it, along with a couple other devices (it'll only support 4); but due to a thick skull, I have a hard time remembering which function buttons control which devices, so I tried the URC-WR7 (hard to go wrong for $20). It controls up to 7 devices, and I was able to code-input everything, including the AVR3312, but I STILL have a hard time remembering what functions belong to what device, and twice now I've gotten the Viera into the analog blizzard of a wrong input, and it's taken calls to my son-in-law in Kansas City to straighten me out. I am a very slow learner. I'm afraid.

It's funny, I can reel off motor-racing stats from the 1950s to 1970s from "I was around then" memory (I grew up near Watkins Glen), and clearly remember things that happened to me 40-60 years ago in complete technicolor (and usually embarrassing) detail, and I can diagnose and fix friends' Mac problems over the phone while watching TV -- it's just a matter of repetition -- but the set and forget of remotes is, for me, truly set and forget, and then not be able to remember. I think if I can just get through this remote stuff successfully and write up a cheater card, I'll be OK, but there's definitely something about the Denon AVR3312's pdf manual that turns my brain into corn meal mush. I return again and again to batpig's fantastic "Denon-to-English" dictionary, but I just have a much more difficult time absorbing and retaining things than I used to -- I turn 65 tomorrow, and by next week, I'll have forgotten my own name.

BTW, got my Netgear e'net 5-port powered switch today, and I'll get the WD TV Live next week.

Also BTW, on the WD TV Live, what are the the usb ports front and rear for?

Thanks again... and again... and again...

Bart
post #18264 of 18955
Quote:
Originally Posted by spager View Post

^^^


Bart;

First I would install Plex on your iMack. since Plex is already on your Roku. I would google how to set up with a Mack. This would get you going. A quick search of Roku tells me that this would work well Music with a very slick interface. It will also do video and it will trans code on the fly for video that it does not support. Not sure how it will handle BD quality video but I would give it a try.

I also have WD live and it plays most video formats flawlessly but I have not played much BD quality through it. The Wd live Media player will connect to your network and grab your content straight from your PC or Mack so no need for a docking station or 3rd party client to play . Now for music the WD live media Player is just plain bad with a lack luster interface with poor playlist options so I do not recommend using a WD Media Live for music at all.

I would try plex through roku and iMack and if Video isn't acceptable I would invest in WD Media Player for Movies and TV shows only and use the Roku for Music with Plex.

I'll check Plex out -- first time I've heard of it -- thanks! I'm not too concerned with BD quality video -- I can't see all that well, either. Even the non-HD stuff I've been streaming through the Roku looks great to me -- the Denon does a pretty amazing job of upscaling even SD video.
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Originally Posted by spager View Post

You must first hit amp to engage Denon then Menu.

A-Ha! Amp > Menu. THAT I can remember (if I write it down!)

Thanks again

Bart
post #18265 of 18955
^ LOL

The usb ports are for external Hard Drives. Setting up universal remotes are royal pita until you get them set up and use to them.
post #18266 of 18955

I use one of the USB ports for an external drive, the other is for my wireless adapter to get on the internet.

 

The WD Live handles BD perfectly as if it were playing on a BD disc player.  I have many BD movies on my external HDD's, which play on the WD.

 

HTH.

post #18267 of 18955
Quote:
Originally Posted by sytyguy View Post

I've been using the WD TV Live for several years.  I currently backup all my owned DVD and Blu-ray movies to one of 2 TB disks and hook it up via a docking station to the WD TV.  Now the WD becomes my movie player, and considering the size of it and the dock station it is easy to transport anywhere we go, particularly on vacation, if we have down time.  I also have a wireless adapter hooked into the WD, so I can easily stream if I feel the need.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sytyguy View Post

Here's an example of a docking station, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153066&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-External+Enclosures-_-N82E16817153066&gclid=CJz90rnTy7gCFSNyQgodsngAFg

You can find others by doing a search, I.E: "hdd docking station"

You need AnyDvd or DVDFAB (do a search), and for DVD's you will need something that can copy the movie to a HDD.  For Blu-Ray go here and it is free, http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716

Quote:
Originally Posted by batpig View Post

That's another good point, something like the WDTV gives you the option of loading your movies onto an external hard drive and connecting it directly to the box for direct access, so you don't even need to stream it from the computer. If you're willing to spend the time ripping DVD's and Blu-rays onto a drive that's a nice benefit.

Quote:
Originally Posted by spager View Post

The usb ports are for external Hard Drives. Setting up universal remotes are royal pita until you get them set up and use to them.

So if the WD TV Live's USB ports are for external hard drives, and my external 2TB hard drive is USB, do I still need a docking station, or can I simply plug the external 2TB hard drive into the WD TV Live's USB port? And where would "AnyDvd or DVDFAB," and/or "something that can copy the movie to a HDD" reside? On the external hard drive?

Even if it's purely illusory, I feel like I'm getting somewhere...

Thanks

Bart
post #18268 of 18955
Is your content now on an external hard drive or on a computer hard drive?
post #18269 of 18955
Quote:
So if the WD TV Live's USB ports are for external hard drives, and my external 2TB hard drive is USB, do I still need a docking station, or can I simply plug the external 2TB hard drive into the WD TV Live's USB port? And where would "AnyDvd or DVDFAB," and/or "something that can copy the movie to a HDD" reside? On the external hard drive?

Even if it's purely illusory, I feel like I'm getting somewhere...

Thanks

Bart

Yes, you do not need a docking station, your external would work, however, a docking station enables you to be able to swap HDD drives in and out of the docking station.  For instance, I have 2 2TB drives that I can swap in and out of the docking station, and I only use one docking station.  Normally, an external drive which has an inclosure costs more than a native HDD.

 

AnyDvd HD is here,  http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvdhd.html  it is not free.  I  prefer AnyDvd, but I have the lifetime version.  This very very good software, I have never had a problem with it.

 

DvdFab HD, is here, http://www.dvdfab.com/free.htm  I haven't used this software in a very long time, so I cannot comment on it.

 

BTW, Google is you friend.

 

Best of luck

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Well, just when I think I can't get any stupider, I end up here:

I tried fiddling about with the Denon's Amp > Menu path to try to get the firmware update, and found myself with a screen full of a bunch of settings, which is dangerous for someone like me... and so it proved: I gave up on trying to get the firmware update to work, backed out of the settings, and opened up the input for Roku 3 so my wife could watch the final 5 or 6 episodes of Battlestar Galactica.

The Roku display looked fine, I selected the next episode, which I had already cued up, hit "resume" and the BSG episode started to play, then whammo! I got a big pale blue screen with dark blue letters that said: "HDCP unauthorized. Content disabled," which, of course, I had never seen before, nor do I understand what the problem is. I know (because I just Googled it) that HDCP means High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection, which, Wikipedia tells me, "is a form of digital copy protection developed by Intel Corporation to prevent copying of digital audio and video content as it travels across connections. Types of connections include DisplayPort (DP), Digital Visual Interface (DVI), and High-Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI). That the Denon would throw up an HDCP barrier to Roku content I've played several times before with no problems at all suggests to me a turd in the Denon's system punchbowl. I switched input to SAT/CBL and everything was fine with my staggering 5 or 6 channels of local dreck, but when I switch back to my Roku 3 input, I STILL have the he "HDCP unauthorized. Content disabled" crap, and I cannot access my Roku input, period.

The semi-good news is that when I got this blue screen of HDCP death, I went back into settings via Amp > menu, and managed to actually -- I THINK -- start the Denon firmware update. It took over a half hour for the "authenticating" or "activating" "firmware update" or whatever the hell message it displayed to finally go away, but I'm still locked out of my Roku -- I can back out of the "HDCP unauthorized. Content disabled" screen and go to other shows, other networks, other channels, but when I click on "Play," it starts to load, and then I get the "HDCP unauthorized. Content disabled" screen again.

Any help greatly appreciated. Of course, it being the weekend, thosee truly "customer-oriented" folks at Denon have NO customer support service -- their message says they're "closed for the holiday." I didn't know St. Swithin's Day came early this year,

This is getting more, rather than less, frustrating.

Thanks

Bart
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