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Oh, and speaking of PLEX, I DO have a Plex account on my Roku, that I was able to access, but whether it works or not, I have no idea: the Plex web page says "You have no servers of your own published to myPlex. Just sign into myPlex from the Plex Media Server preferences, then refresh this page."

I have no idea what this means, nor can I figure out where I'm supposed to "just sign into myPlex from the Plex Media Server preferences." Do I do this online, on the Roku's Plex network, where? Anybody know? I went to Set Plex Channel Preferences > Plex Media Servers on the display for the ROKU; I tried to add a server manually, but it says "Enter Host Name or IP without http:// or :32400. Not knowing my IP URL, I took a stab at :32400, and got bupkis. I take it that Plex is a PAY service.

Since BSG is on my Amazon Instant Video channel, could it be some Amazon Instant Video glitch.

This has been a great birthday present...

Bummed

Bart
post #18272 of 18969
It probably means that there's a problem with the HDMI/HDCP conversation between your TV and the receiver. Make sure all the HDMI cables are tight. Push them in to be certain. Loose connections look the same as tight ones. Also, you might try doing a "soft reset" of both TV and receiver. I.e. unplug them from the wall for several minutes. This often will clear up glitchy software problems. Their "power off" buttons just put them in standby with power still applied, which doesn't.
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[quote name="Selden Ball" url="/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread/18270#post_23569887" Also, you might try doing a "soft reset" of both TV and receiver. I.e. unplug them from the wall for several minutes. This often will clear up glitchy software problems. Their "power off" buttons just put them in standby with power still applied, which doesn't.[/quote]

Bingo! And I even thought of it myself! As I was waiting on interminable hold with Roku customer "support" -- by this time I'd whittled the possibilities down to the Roku 3 or the Denon -- I grabbed my Roku 2 XS, and plugged that in in place of the Roku 3 (but WHY, in the name of all that's sane, would you make two different models with completely different power connectors -- one a male plug, the other a female jack, and have the HDMI port right side up in one and upside down in the other?) after powering EVERYTHING down, fired the whole rig up, all channels on the Roku worked fine. So I powered down again (superstitious old-school IT goof), put the Roku 3 back in the chain instead of the Roku 2 XS, and BING! -- everything works fine. Not sure if I ever REALLY got the Denon firmware update loaded, but at this point, I don't give a rat's.

Is Plex a pay service? If so, feggidabbahtit, but if not, could someone explain to me what I have to do to get it to work?

Not bad for a Saturday -- I only spent 3 hours screwing around with this mess...

Thanks for the help!

Bart
post #18274 of 18969
It is free.

Googled set up roku with mack.

Here is one link.

http://www.macinstruct.com/node/397
post #18275 of 18969
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Originally Posted by nautilus11 View Post

hi there,
AIRPLAY issue: I have checked this forum and other sites and there are several posts about airplay, but i didnt find a similar problem or solution.

I have a denon 1912 and lately the airplay had been useless. It was working fine before and i have not done any firmware upgrades.
Now, when i play music via airplay, it plays with gaps. It will play for 10 sec and then a gap of 1-2 sec and starts again, Thus,airplay is almost useless.
Tried all settings and options, but nothing. I have Verizon FIOS abd use verizon router.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks
Hi All,
I tried the solution posted by some here to disable the IGMP setting in the Actiontec router for verizon, but the problem still continues. Its very frustrating, i can't use airplay. As i mentioned, the music constantly has gaps of 1-2 seconds in an interval of 8-10 sec. bascially i play music with gaps, so useless.
Can anyone please suggest a solution if you have tackled an issue like this?

AVR: Denon 1912
Router: Verizon Actiontec
AVR connected to a wireless bridge via D-Link 1522

Appreciate any help..
post #18276 of 18969
Does it work ever? or never?

Besides toggling the IGMP setting, I have disabled the "persistent connection" setting on the receiver (that keeps the Denon connected to the network even when it is "powered off". That way, when I turn on the receiver, it re-establishes itself on the network (gets a new lease of the IP address from the DHCP server, i.e., my router). Seems to make it more reliable.

Gaps like that indicate insufficient bandwidth. Use wired Ethernet connection to your router from the receiver and from your PC/Mac and test w iTunes on your PC/Mac. Set the connection speed to at least 100 mbps or gigabit (if your router supports gigabit connections).
post #18277 of 18969
Hi All,

I've had a Panasonic 55UT50 hooked up to my AVR 1912 for about 4 months now and overall I've had no problems with it. But a couple of days ago I started having two problems at the same time.

I've got the panny connected to my 1912 via HDMI through the HDMI2 connection on the TV (it has ARC) so I can get my Netflix and other streaming media through the home theater system.

But 2 days ago the ARC stopped working as well as the HDMI power turning on/off the receiver.

I've checked the HDMI connection and the Panny's vieria connect and other settings and all of them seem just fine.

All of the Denon's settings are the same as I've had them since setting this up.

What can cause a fully functioning set up to stop working over night with no hit of problems?

Has anyone else encountered this?

What can I do to fix it?
post #18278 of 18969
Try cycling the HDMI Control setting on the AVR OFF/ON. Then power off and unplug the AVR for a few minutes. If still no joy after powering back on again, then the alternative configuration would be to connect an optical cable from the Panny to the AVR which actually may provide better audio as the HDMI(ARC) connection on many TVs cannot pass more than stereo 2.0 while the optical out can pass DD 5.1 (eg. Netflix movies).
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Can the 2112 control the power on/off of my newer Vizio TV? If so how do I do this? Everything is connected with HDMI.
post #18280 of 18969
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Originally Posted by mmmdonuts79 View Post

Heyas!,

i'm a little confused about the different sound modes on my denon 1912. I see there are presets but personally i prefer manually setting up sound for watching movies but this obviously does not sound good when listening to music.

Can i set it up so i have one settings for movies and 1 setting for when playing music, mostly through airplay. My own settings?

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Originally Posted by mmmdonuts79 View Post

Yeah but how do i set settings for music, settings for movie so when i switch using those quick select my different settings are stored and im not using some sort of inbuilt preset?

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Originally Posted by mmmdonuts79 View Post

Apologies if i'm not making sense, i just had a play with the remote and what i'm referring to is "Channel level" Does it make sense now? so yeah i keep having to change how i like it between movies and listening to music. Can that be setup so when i switch between inputs my settings are saved?

Channel Levels are Global, so when changed and even in the Quick Select option that will change it for all inputs. I would suggest using the Surround mode tweaks as once set, they are done, and you will not have to change the Channel Levels constantly and perhaps forgetting them.

Surrounds modes are memorized by inputs as long as you have auto surround mode set to On. You have 4 surrounds modes to pick from DolbyPLl II Cinema and Music as well as Neo 6 Cinema and Music. The Music modes are tweakable so you can tweak to your taste but once tweaked the tweaks carry across all inputs for that Mode. With the standard button on your remote you can cycle between modes once set up. You could have a Neo 6 Music and a Dolby PL II Cinema for DVD and a Neo 6 Cinema and a Dolbly PL II Music for BD etc...

You also have a Dedicated "2CH DIRECT/STEREO" menu for configuring 2-channel audio if you do not want surround mode.

I will re-post the surround tweaks.



After you have found the Surround modes here is a little more information on them.

My understanding for the standards of Dolby PL II and DTS NEO 6 are as follows.

Dolby is more center oriented in Cinema mode.
DTS is more Surround oriented.
Dolby Music is tweakable .

Dolby Music is the only standard that will you tweak both center and surrounds with Neo 6 Music, just the center, so if you don't like the image (the amount of sound coming from various sets of speakers) here is what the tweaks do.

Center Width gradually spreads the center-channel signal into the front left and front right speakers, creating a broader front sound stage.

Panorama blends the front left and right channel signals into the rear surround speakers, creating a dramatic sense of envelopment. This is like Multi ch, Stereo to me and most suggest to leave this setting off.

Dimension adjusts the balance between the front and rear channels.


Although Dolby PL II Cinema and Neo 6 Cinema is recommended for non music content to preserve the author intent any one should feel free to use Music modes for their own taste for TV and Movie content.
Edited by spager - 7/28/13 at 12:15pm
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Originally Posted by travanx View Post

Can the 2112 control the power on/off of my newer Vizio TV? If so how do I do this? Everything is connected with HDMI.

If it's not listed as one of the preset remote codes in the remote, then setting HDMI Control (p. 89 OM) to ON may do the trick. There is also a P.OFF Control setting (p. 89 OM) that can be set as well although this would only power off the TV.

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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

If it's not listed as one of the preset remote codes in the remote, then setting HDMI Control (p. 89 OM) to ON may do the trick. There is also a P.OFF Control setting (p. 89 OM) that can be set as well although this would only power off the TV.


Thanks. I have my TV in one room. And everything in a closet. The IR going in between never works when turning on the TV & Denon using the Harmony Link. It's hard to explain but the IR does work and Logitech has been useless with helping with my problem. I am hoping this would be an easier fix.
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Originally Posted by alokeprasad View Post

Does it work ever? or never?

Besides toggling the IGMP setting, I have disabled the "persistent connection" setting on the receiver (that keeps the Denon connected to the network even when it is "powered off". That way, when I turn on the receiver, it re-establishes itself on the network (gets a new lease of the IP address from the DHCP server, i.e., my router). Seems to make it more reliable.

Gaps like that indicate insufficient bandwidth. Use wired Ethernet connection to your router from the receiver and from your PC/Mac and test w iTunes on your PC/Mac. Set the connection speed to at least 100 mbps or gigabit (if your router supports gigabit connections).

Thanks for the reply.. I will try the "persistent connection" option. I have AVR connected via wired ethernet to a wireless bridge. The bridge is rated for 300mbps connection to the router. I never had this problem before, i think it started since i switched to Verizon Actiontec router. Given te hsetup at my home, it would be very difficult for me to connect the AVr directly to the router via cat5.
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Originally Posted by alokeprasad View Post

Does it work ever? or never?
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it never works. it always plays with gaps.
post #18285 of 18969
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Originally Posted by spager View Post

It is free.

Googled set up roku with mack.

Here is one link.

http://www.macinstruct.com/node/397



Great site, thanks! For anyone who's familiar with PERL (I'm not), theres another how-to on the Macinstruct site called "Automatically Download TV Shows to Your Mac" at http://www.macinstruct.com/node/466

If you want to learn PERL, the same site has "Getting Started with Perl on Mac OS X" at http://www.macinstruct.com/node/437 and "Using CPAN to Extend Perl on Mac OS X" at http://www.macinstruct.com/node/463

Also," How to Rip DVDs with Handbrake" at http://www.macinstruct.com/node/109

and "How to Stream Movies from Mac to Roku" at http://www.macinstruct.com/node/397

The Macinstruct site, which I'd never seen or heard of before, is a gold mine of how-tos and tutorials for all things Mac (as in "Macintosh," the computer, not "mack," as in mackintosh the waterproof raincoat, or McIntosh, the apple cultivar first grown in Canada in 1811)

Spager, thanks again for linking me to this fantastic site!

And everyone: thanks for putting up with my dunderheadedness with such calm grace. I can almost see the path for making my iMac's saved audio-video*-photo content, online streaming, and the Denon coming together in a massive time-wasting convergence! No, it's not time wasting; it's entertainment. Thanks all.

Bart

*saved video examples: Duke Video (the greatest repository of motorsports videos on earth, located on the Isle of Man, and run by the son of the great Geoff Duke, motorcycle world champion and multi IoM TT winner of the '50s) has downloadable content that is entirely public domain, and freely sharable -- I want to see this stuff on the big screen. Same with British Pathé, archive.org (the Library of Congress' online presence, with literally millions of freely downloadable texts, audio, video, and photos) and my own photos and video.
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hope everyone is having a good weekend. The cool weather here in chicago is a HUGE relief from what I suffered last week

I took my 1612 to ABT yesterday (first time ever there, heck of a store. interesting with BB struggling, ABT seems to still get a lot of people even if the prices arent cheaper)

when the service tech plugged in the 1612, it worked ! confused.gif I couldnt believe it. He then hooked up a few speakers and everything was fine. confused.gif

He said its possible the 40 minutes or so I had the unit unplugged, might have allowed enough time to let any excess power drain from the capacitors.

Not sure how much this could be true. But its true last time I only had the unit unplugged for a few minutes just to disconnect the speakers.

Because everything else was fine and working again, he said its unlikely there could be any defective parts. So he recommended I take it home and try again.

So I just set everything up, including the audessey .... and everything is working fine as if nothing ever happened. This time, I am also using banana plugs per his recommendation.

Bad news is he said Denon will consider my warranty expired and will not pay for any parts that need to be replaced in the event something happens frown.gif I'll check into what my citibank/MC can offer (thanks for the tip, JDSmoothie)

So, I guess everything is ok...but something caused this thing to happen and I would hate to think that I would need to do microprocessor resets every year or so eek.gif Maybe next time, I'll unplug the unit for a few hours first. I did have everything hooked up to a surge protector which is supposed to prevent spikes :/

I forgot how fun it can be to set this up but also time consuming...forgot a few things and had to check with BatPigs instructions tongue.gif

anyway, hopefully this was just a blip.
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Is it possible to set the 3312 to power on at a fixed volume?
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Is it possible to set the 3312 to power on at a fixed volume?

Yes, Option Menu, Volume Control
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Try cycling the HDMI Control setting on the AVR OFF/ON. Then power off and unplug the AVR for a few minutes. If still no joy after powering back on again, then the alternative configuration would be to connect an optical cable from the Panny to the AVR which actually may provide better audio as the HDMI(ARC) connection on many TVs cannot pass more than stereo 2.0 while the optical out can pass DD 5.1 (eg. Netflix movies).

I've cycled the HDMI control setting on and off to no effect nor did unplugging the 1912.

How would I setup the 1912 to handle the optical connection from the tv while keeping the HDMI in from the DirectTV DVR?
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The DTV DVR doesn't have a part in this issue so not sure why it was brought up? To get the ARC to work try resetting the Panny as well and if still no joy, disengage ARC by setting VieraLink to OFF and connect the optical cable from the optical audio out to the optical input on the AVR which defaults to TV. Simply select TV on the AVR remote and you should be good to go. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Is it possible to set the 3312 to power on at a fixed volume?

Yes, Option Menu, Volume Control
Thanks. I hate to wonder around in the Denon menu structure. redface.gif
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Originally Posted by spager View Post

Is your content now on an external hard drive or on a computer hard drive?

Both and/or either. My video content is mostly .mp4, .mov., and flv -- but I have video converters that can make it whatever I need, and, of course, since my external HDDs are connected to my iMac, I can put it wherever I need it. My rights-free content -- and I have a lot of it -- from Duke Video is mostly .mov.

I'm still trying to figure out Plex! The message I get when I sign in to my Plex! account on-line is this:

"You have no servers of your own published to myPlex. Just sign into myPlex from the Plex Media Server preferences, then refresh this page."

I don't know where I "sign into myPlex from the Plex Media Server preferences." Where do I access my "Plex Media Server preferences," on the Plex! website, or on the Plex on-HDTV-screen choices when I choose Plex! in my Roku channel screen.

Peace

Bart
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Hi Bart:


You may need a computer guy to help you set it all up as it is nearly impossible for others to help you set it up over the forums with all the settings that need to be done.
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Thanks. I hate to wonder around in the Denon menu structure.

Boy, THAT's a BIG club. Had Denon's tech writers (I used to be one -- not for Denon, thank god) set out to make manuals so byzantine and arcane that most non-techies would be utterly baffled and frustrated by them, they couldn't have made them any worse than they are.

I wonder why that is? Is it the 100+ year Nipponphone Columbia through 1930 Denon to the present day Japanese culture, a culture whose people are generally better-educated, especially in the sciences? Is it the "I've-done-this-a-million-times-and-I-can-do-it-in-my-sleep-so why-can't-you-GET-it" so many tech writers (generally with a background in engineering) suffer from -- the gap in experience and vocabulary on a given subject between those who do this stuff everyday, and blockheads like me who have to try to figure out what complex and utterly unknown and non-intuitive dance steps I have to perform in the middle of an A/V emergency to get things back on track. A good example is that though my screen told me it was installing the firmware update, but today I still got the same "install firmware update" message I've been getting for the past four days.

Or are the manuals so obtuse because of poor translation?

A philosophical question of little consequence, but a practical question of ongoing frustration.

Bart
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To get it technically correct to the letter they have damn near maid it "obtuse". If it weren't for forums like this I would still be thick in the weeds.
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Thanks. I hate to wonder around in the Denon menu structure.

Boy, THAT's a BIG club. Had Denon's tech writers (I used to be one -- not for Denon, thank god) set out to make manuals so byzantine and arcane that most non-techies would be utterly baffled and frustrated by them, they couldn't have made them any worse than they are.
Bart
I have a theory. My theory is that Denon distributes 3x5 blank cards to all their engineers to make notes. Then they put out topic boxes where the cards are deposited on a regular basis. The manual is built from those cards. The one question that is not allowed to be ask at Denon, and a lot of other companies is, "What questions will our customers need to answer?"

The same guy responsible for organizing the manual is in charge or organization and navigation of the menus. Every time I go in there I have to learn what assumptions I've forgotten all over again. biggrin.gif

I've had Denon AVRs since 2007 and love them best when all I have to do is adjust the volume. eek.gif
post #18297 of 18969
I just got a 1712. On my 1610 I can dim the display with the remote. Is there no dimmer button on the 1712 remote?
post #18298 of 18969
Correct. Current model remotes have been reduced to just the bare minimum required buttons. The Dimmer button still remains on the front panel display as well as can be set via the GUI/OSD menu.
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Plex setup is on your computer. Mine is located here http://127.0.0.1:32400/web/index.html#!/dashboard Plex is not an easy software to use, as I have an LG TV which never has worked right and the Plex forums are littered with the same problems. There is more setup than just install and magically it works.

Thanks for the power on TV advice. Just tested this out with all the options on my Vizio E701i-A3. Had to turn HDMI on and p. control to on. Setup HDMI1 as the source instead of the default Last. On my TV enabled CEC and disabled volume control. Then had the TV search for the Denon. Now my TV turns on and off with the receiever! Thanks Harmony Link for not working right. Trying to make everything easier to use and my girl prefers going through Dune menus over Zappiti. Go figure.

Also this is the first time I tried Airplay since sending my unit in under warranty for the headphone jack fix. I can't believe how easy using an iPAD to play music on this is!!! Just open some app and click Denon and like magic we have music in the house. I guess the Denon is going back to on in standby mode once again.
post #18300 of 18969
Anyone familiar with using a Kindle Fire HD (8.9") as a remote for the Denon 3312?

Bart
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