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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Receivers do not support streaming video playback. You need some other device that can play back the video media that is "served" by the NAS. That is why others suggested the PS3. Many Bluray players offer this or you can get a dedicated media box like WDTV.

Thanks for the info, batpig. What is WDTV? If you can, is there a 'best-in-class" device to serve video media?

Thanks and regards,

Jeff

PS to jdsmoothie and batpig and others...

Can anyone recommend a good reference book that would help me take the load off of this thread? I don't want to take up a lot of your valuable time answering new user questions that I could read if I only knew where to look.
Paper books are preferable.

Jeff
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WD TV Live, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136997&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-Video+Devices+%26+TV+Tuners-_-N82E16822136997&gclid=CMeJ_eHbrbkCFYU5Qgod8VsAzA

 

This is what I use to watch my own Videos, VOB and M2TS.  It can also play them from a network.  It also has apps such as Netflix, Pandora, and many others.

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Thread Starter 
Feel free to ask questions here. That's what great about forums, being able to tap into a collective knowledge base.

I honestly doubt you will get better info from a paper book. There may be decent ones out there on "home theater basics" but this is a rapidly shifting landscape and a specific topic like streaming video from a NAS is going to have richer info available though google search and the Internet in general.

Similarly I don't think there is a single "best of breed" as it depends on your specific needs. The best bet again is Internet search and time and research, for example you can glean a lot of info reading reviews on Amazon on specific products you are considering, including what differentiates a given model from the competition and /or similar models from the same product line.
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Feel free to ask questions here. That's what great about forums, being able to tap into a collective knowledge base.

I honestly doubt you will get better info from a paper book. There may be decent ones out there on "home theater basics" but this is a rapidly shifting landscape and a specific topic like streaming video from a NAS is going to have richer info available though google search and the Internet in general.

Similarly I don't think there is a single "best of breed" as it depends on your specific needs. The best bet again is Internet search and time and research, for example you can glean a lot of info reading reviews on Amazon on specific products you are considering, including what differentiates a given model from the competition and /or similar models from the same product line.

Thanks a bunch! I'll do the research and come back with a dozen more questions .

Jeff
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WD TV Live, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136997&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-Video+Devices+%26+TV+Tuners-_-N82E16822136997&gclid=CMeJ_eHbrbkCFYU5Qgod8VsAzA

This is what I use to watch my own Videos, VOB and M2TS.  It can also play them from a network.  It also has apps such as Netflix, Pandora, and many others.

Thanks for the help. I'm only interested in in-house features... most external services are blocked here, so are of no interest to me.

Jeff
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I have an AVR-3312CI receiver. While I was on vacations, I disconnect my cable box, the receiver and the TV from the wall. Then, when I came back and I powered on all of them, when I switch to "SAT/CAB" the TV picture starts flicking and then I lose signal. I''ve tried powering everything down, reconnecting the cables, connecting them again, and powering the devices in combinatorial order, but to no avail... the image would be ok for a few minutes, then start flickering again. If I connect the cable box to the TV (bypassing the receiver) everything works fine.
When the image starts flickering, it mess up not only the connection to the cable box, but everything else (such as the connection to the BD player, the receiver menu, the HD radio info, etc.).
I've also tried changing all the cables, but to no avail either. I've tried resetting the AVR processor (by powering up and pressing the two rightmost buttons) and it didn't work either. I've tried turning off every automatic option (I/P scaler, automatic detection of TV resolution, etc) but to no avail either.
Has anyone experienced that? In the end, I have bypassed the receiver and connected an optical cable for audio from the TV back to the receiver, but that makes it difficult to watch TV and then switch to HD radio.
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^^
Your current configuration with the HDMI connected to the TV is actually more often recommended to avoid various HDMI handshake issues such as what you are currently experiencing (sometimes brought on by a firmware update to the cable/sat box); however, rather than connect optical from the TV to the AVR, instead, connect the optical from the cable/sat box to the AVR so you will then be able to pass DD 5.1 from those shows/movies that support it.
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^^^

I have to vouch for the wd tv live it will handle almost anything you throw at it for video and you can ad 2 external hard drives to it. It is not very intuitive for music but for Movies it is a solid little box and highly rated in the forums.
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Originally Posted by MuscatJeff View Post


Thanks for the help. I'm only interested in in-house features... most external services are blocked here, so are of no interest to me.

Jeff

You mentioned network, this device can access your network, wireless, or ethernet.  Or, if you have a docking station, you can access it directly, no wireless involved, which is the way I access all my movies (in-house, just what you wanted, or so you say, or did I miss understand?).

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how do i turn off zone 2? is this what is not allowing me to shut the recieiver off with the remote?
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Easiest way to manage (turn off) zones is iPhone app for me; assume Android app is same way.

Otherwise use zone select button on top left of Denon remote to select, power off with top middle power button.
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have all channels this morning; still could not get Load Configuration to work, so re-running Audyssey now...
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Did all that last night & now NO Center or Surround channels again.

So reset micro another 6x & pulled everything, again.

Probably have nothing to do with it but check all buttons are not sticking (remote battery from remote). Maybe try blowing compressed air into the headphone and setup mic jacks.
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Originally Posted by Project H View Post

how do i turn off zone 2? is this what is not allowing me to shut the recieiver off with the remote?

Correct.
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have all channels this morning; still could not get Load Configuration to work, so re-running Audyssey now...

If you have not done so in the past, be sure to review the SAVE file to ensure it is not all zeroes, one of the reasons a file will not LOAD ....

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1465528/the-official-2013-denon-e-series-x-series-avr-model-owners-thread-faq/0_100#user_E9
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^^^ Thanks I did that before, on your advice; have Loaded with success in the past, just not this time.

But, knock on wood, it's up & running, for now.
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This time, I'm trying leaving all settings as set by 3312 after running Audyssey.

Watching so much College Football, it'll be hard to tell any differ.
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Did all that last night & now NO Center or Surround channels again.

So reset micro another 6x & pulled everything, again.

Do you hear a relay click when they go out or come back on? I had a similar problem where I would hear a relay click and my center speaker would go out. A few seconds later the relay will click and the center would come back on.
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NO click, just noticed the announcers on the football game went away; which is not all bad; but, it's fixed, for now.

Disconnect CENTER for virtually commentator free football...
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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

Did all that last night & now NO Center or Surround channels again.

So reset micro another 6x & pulled everything, again.

Do you hear a relay click when they go out or come back on? I had a similar problem where I would hear a relay click and my center speaker would go out. A few seconds later the relay will click and the center would come back on.
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First, thanks so much for the abundance of information. I am very grateful for the valuable effort you made.
I have a Denon 3312CI. I am running 7.1 surround. I am using FPR and FPL, FR and FL, Center, SR and SL. I wanted to add SBR and SBL but read where you explain that the 3312CI can only handle 7.1. Before I read this, I had called Denon support; the CSR tech said I could use the Pre-Amp outs for the SBR and SBL, run RCA cables to another amp, then run speaker wire to the two rear speakers. But after reading this excellent manual, I'd like to ask you whether you agree, or is the CSR mistaken. (When I posed my question, he said he'd have to search the literature.)

Again, thanks for the great job!
Bill
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Thread Starter 
What is "FPR/FPL"? What's the "P" stand for?

Anyway, regardless of whether you use internal amps or external amps, the 3312CI can only run 7 channels at a time -- the "core" 5.1 plus your choice of two additional channels (surround backs, heights, or wides). The CSR's recommendation doesn't change this, you still can only have one extra pair of speakers "active" in addition to the main 5.1 channels.

The extra speaker terminals are there for convenience so you can hook up more than 7 channels, but only 7 can be active at a time, although you can easily switch between the "extra" channels based on surround mode (e.g. activate Audyssey DSX for wides or heights, or activate Dolby PLIIx for back surrounds). So there is really no need for the extra amplifier that the CSR suggested, just wire up the surround backs and re-run Audyssey to calibrate all 9 speakers.
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Thanks for the quick reply and your valuable expertise.smile.gif I'll follow your advice.
BTW, the P in FPR and FPL is presence; i.e., front presence right and front presence left.
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^^
So as to be more clear in your future posts, the more accurate terms to correctly reflect the location of your "presence" speakers would be FHL/FHR for the Front Height speakers and FWL/FWR for the Front Wide speakers. The 3312CI allows you to "wire" up to 11 speakers to include the FW and FH speakers so you are fortunate in that you can try any one of the three configurations (SB, FH, or FW). smile.gif
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Thread Starter 
The term "Presence" speakers is only used by Yamaha for their proprietary acoustic "enhanced" processing.
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Easiest way to manage (turn off) zones is iPhone app for me; assume Android app is same way.

Otherwise use zone select button on top left of Denon remote to select, power off with top middle power button.

ill give that a try tomorrow and let you know how it goes. by default the zones are already configured? i want to use the remote instead of a smart phone. also is there a way to sync the denon remote with a fios controller?
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Where can i get the PDF manual for the denon 2112c?

Also, in my current setup I have 2 sources - blu-ray player and fios set-top box. When I increase the volume on my receiver which is powering my 7.1 system - i notice that the volume is VERY low from -80.5dB through -45dB. This is almost near the 3/4 point in the actual volume bar. Why is the majority of the volume bar very low and only start getting loud in the other 1/4? Is this to be expected? I haven't tuned my set up and am using the default profiles with cinema when watching a movie.

Thanks for clarifying.
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Originally Posted by Project H View Post

Where can i get the PDF manual for the denon 2112c?

Also, in my current setup I have 2 sources - blu-ray player and fios set-top box. When I increase the volume on my receiver which is powering my 7.1 system - i notice that the volume is VERY low from -80.5dB through -45dB. This is almost near the 3/4 point in the actual volume bar. Why is the majority of the volume bar very low and only start getting loud in the other 1/4? Is this to be expected? I haven't tuned my set up and am using the default profiles with cinema when watching a movie.

Thanks for clarifying.

The volume you are experiencing is normal. I usually have to listen to it in the -50--35 range.

http://usa.denon.com/DocumentMaster/US/AVR-2112CIE3_ENG_CD-ROM_v00.pdf
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Originally Posted by Project H View Post

Where can i get the PDF manual for the denon 2112c?

Also, in my current setup I have 2 sources - blu-ray player and fios set-top box. When I increase the volume on my receiver which is powering my 7.1 system - i notice that the volume is VERY low from -80.5dB through -45dB. This is almost near the 3/4 point in the actual volume bar. Why is the majority of the volume bar very low and only start getting loud in the other 1/4? Is this to be expected? I haven't tuned my set up and am using the default profiles with cinema when watching a movie.

Thanks for clarifying.

All of the Owner manuals going back quite a few years are available on Denon's Downloads website ...

http://usa.denon.com/us/downloads/pages/instructionmanual.aspx

Modern AVRs use a logarithmic volume scale such that the average volume levels will be in the 55 (TV) -70 (movies/music) range for most owners.
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Thread Starter 
Even though three people have already supplied links I will also note that links to all manuals are on the FIRST POST of this thread wink.gif

You need to run Audyssey and calibrate your system.
post #18450 of 18969
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

All of the Owner manuals going back quite a few years are available on Denon's Downloads website ...

http://usa.denon.com/us/downloads/pages/instructionmanual.aspx

Modern AVRs use a logarithmic volume scale such that the average volume levels will be in the 55 (TV) -70 (movies/music) range for most owners.

Do you all use the preset audio settings on the Denon for 'game' 'movie' or 'music'?

So the volume scale that I'm seeing is what you all experience as well. Calibrating my system will not change that or change the output, correct?

Thanks for the owners manual.
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