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Originally Posted by Tar Heel AVS View Post

What could the causes be? Would processor reset possibly correct the problem? Pretty sure the problem is the output of the receiver. Are there fuses for each separate speaker output?

Check your speaker wiring to ensure it is securely fastened to each speaker post. Before doing a microprocessor reset, try simply unplugging the unit for 10 minutes and do a "soft reset".
post #18692 of 18969
Hoping someone here can help me resolve this. Two days ago, the 2312ci was working just fine. Yesterday when I turned it on, I was not getting a signal to the tv (LG 47LM6400). The source I was using was the HTPC hooked up to the 2312ci through the DVR HDMI input. I then tried switching over to the Oppo BDP-93 player hooked up through the BD HDMI input. Nothing. I tried going to the 2312ci Amp>Menu and nothing. TV keeps telling me "No Signal" I have confirmed the following:

1. The tv is fine. I hooked up another PC to the HDMI ports on the TV, and they are working normally.
2. I have changed the cable from 2312ci to the tv (2312ci HDMI monitor out to tv HDMI 1) and there was not difference. I tested the cables and they are fine.
3. I reset the 2312ci configuration file using a file I had created on Aug 20. No change.
4. I have tested the streaming from another networked pc (not my HTPC) and it is working just fine. I am listening to it as we speak. Signal is fine to Main zone and zone 2.
5. Web controller is working fine. This is how I tested and am listening to the networked pc playing mp3's using FooBar2000.

So what do I do next? Seems to me that something is wrong with the HDMI output and/or the HDMI inputs. I am leaning towards the output though as I find it unlikely that two inputs (HTPC and Blu Ray) would have gone bad simultaneously. Maybe there is a setting that got splahooeyed or something. If so, I do not know where that setting is, but I would think that my recovery file should have reset it properly.

Any help appreciated.

Cheers~
W
post #18693 of 18969
If you didn't already, try resetting the microprocessor before you reload the config file.
post #18694 of 18969
Thanks jdsmoothie. Forgot about that option. Will try that now.
post #18695 of 18969
OK, did the microprocessor reset, and now the receiver does not go to standby. Power button goes dark when off instead of the red light when in standby. On top of this, the receiver has now lost it's network settings and although I have entered them back into the system using the front panel menu choices, it still is not connecting to network. I don't know what to do here, including how to get my backup file onto the system (I am used to uploading it via the network connection). Please help.

Thanks
W
post #18696 of 18969
The unit has to go to Standby as the only way to turn it OFF is to unplug the power cord, rather the light does not light up simply because HDMI Control is no longer ON. Try rebooting the router again.
post #18697 of 18969
OK, so I turned HDMI control back on and now it does go to "Standby" with the red light on the power button. However, I have done extensive testing on the connections and the HDMI Monitor out is still not working. I disconnected entire unit and hooked it up to another HDMI compatible TV, and not working there either. Component outs do work fine. Any options left aside from sending in for warranty?

Any help appreciated.

Cheers~
W
post #18698 of 18969
I put a motorized projector screen in front of my plasma for night-time movie viewing and am using the following hdmi splitter to connect the tv and projector to the tv/arc hdmi input on my denon 2112.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CUMJRLY/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

When I watch Netflix through the tv, sound no longer comes through my speakers. I assume this is due to the lack of ARC on the splitter. Is that correct? Can I get around this by connecting an optical link between the tv and the 2112?

Prior to hdmi splitter install, my dvr (Comcast) remote would automatically/default control the receiver's volume. Since the install, I have to select "aux" on the dvr remote to control the receiver's volume. Otherwise, it will attempt to adjust the TV's volume. This issue also occurs when watching cable on the projector. I have both hdmi and coax cables from the dvr to 2112, with both enabled in the inputs menu.

Are these issues due to the lack of ARC on the hdmi splitter? Is there a workaround?
post #18699 of 18969
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Originally Posted by adgrimes View Post

I recently hooked up an xbox one and am curious. Why does TV sound sound good through the xbox one? The audio format is Multi In 3/4/.1 (I'm running 5.1). It seems to have more "bass" in the right sections and better surround sound with PCM. Of course this is only with programming that is broadcasted in surround sound.

My cable box direct to denon comes up as 3/2/.1 Dolby digital and audio option selected is "surround sound". The surround sound just doesn't sound as impressive when watching it directly hooked up through denon.

Not sure if it matters but my xbox is hooked up to the game hdmi port and my cable box is hooked up to the stb hdmi port. (I'm running a splitter so wife doesn't haven't to use it.)

JDsmoothie any ideas?
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^^
Not familiar with the XBox One, but apparently it is doing some processing of the audio.
post #18701 of 18969
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Originally Posted by a|F View Post

I put a motorized projector screen in front of my plasma for night-time movie viewing and am using the following hdmi splitter to connect the tv and projector to the tv/arc hdmi input on my denon 2112.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CUMJRLY/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

When I watch Netflix through the tv, sound no longer comes through my speakers. I assume this is due to the lack of ARC on the splitter. Is that correct? Can I get around this by connecting an optical link between the tv and the 2112?

Prior to hdmi splitter install, my dvr (Comcast) remote would automatically/default control the receiver's volume. Since the install, I have to select "aux" on the dvr remote to control the receiver's volume. Otherwise, it will attempt to adjust the TV's volume. This issue also occurs when watching cable on the projector. I have both hdmi and coax cables from the dvr to 2112, with both enabled in the inputs menu.

Are these issues due to the lack of ARC on the hdmi splitter? Is there a workaround?

Yes, if the switch doesn't support ARC then you'll be required to connect an optical cable from the TV to the AVR. Also consider using a Harmony remote which can likely control all of your devices.
post #18702 of 18969
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Originally Posted by cadillac1960 View Post

OK, so I turned HDMI control back on and now it does go to "Standby" with the red light on the power button. However, I have done extensive testing on the connections and the HDMI Monitor out is still not working. I disconnected entire unit and hooked it up to another HDMI compatible TV, and not working there either. Component outs do work fine. Any options left aside from sending in for warranty?

Any help appreciated.

Cheers~
W

Give the "network reset" as noted in post #5 of this thread a try.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread/0_100#post_20422055
post #18703 of 18969
Thanks for the replies jdsmoothie. I have already sent it to a service station for repair. I had a long talk with denon and they had me try a few other things, but nothing worked. I really appreciate your assistance though. Service guy said the hdmi stuff is 80% of what he repairs on denon's, so I guess I am not alone.

Cheers~
W
post #18704 of 18969
So interestly, since hooking up a new SmartTV (Panasonic ST60 Plasma) to the 2112ci, have noticed when I turn on the BluRay player (Samsung) and the receiver is in Standby, the receiver switches the output to BD (which is nice, since the receiver is in a cabinet, if I just want to play sound through the TV). However, when I turn the BluRay off, I am "stuck" with the receiver outputting BD, and have to turn the receiver on and switch to SAT/CBL in order to get picture back to the TV (even though it is set to pass the TV when in Standby). Any thoughts? Or is this the way it works now? Interesting that with an older TV, when turning the BluRay on, it did not do the switch (I had to turn on the Receiver and switch to BD).
post #18705 of 18969
^^
The setting for Standby Source is either "Last" or a specific HDMI input jack.
post #18706 of 18969
Pandora times out when you have network standby turned on. Just turn it off and you will be able to use Pandora again and get rid of the annoying "are you still there?"
post #18707 of 18969
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Originally Posted by jon777 View Post

So interestly, since hooking up a new SmartTV (Panasonic ST60 Plasma) to the 2112ci, have noticed when I turn on the BluRay player (Samsung) and the receiver is in Standby, the receiver switches the output to BD (which is nice, since the receiver is in a cabinet, if I just want to play sound through the TV). However, when I turn the BluRay off, I am "stuck" with the receiver outputting BD, and have to turn the receiver on and switch to SAT/CBL in order to get picture back to the TV (even though it is set to pass the TV when in Standby). Any thoughts? Or is this the way it works now? Interesting that with an older TV, when turning the BluRay on, it did not do the switch (I had to turn on the Receiver and switch to BD).

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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

^^
The setting for Standby Source is either "Last" or a specific HDMI input jack.

Standby Source is set to HDMI3 (Sat/Cbl). Most times it works fine (e.g. if I listening to Pandora and then turn off, passes through Sat/Cbl). However, when turning on BluRay player with AVR off if switches the pass through to BD (which is good), but seems to require turning AVR on and switching inputs to re-enable passing through of Sat/Cbl...
post #18708 of 18969
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Originally Posted by jon777 View Post


Standby Source is set to HDMI3 (Sat/Cbl). Most times it works fine (e.g. if I listening to Pandora and then turn off, passes through Sat/Cbl). However, when turning on BluRay player with AVR off if switches the pass through to BD (which is good), but seems to require turning AVR on and switching inputs to re-enable passing through of Sat/Cbl...
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Originally Posted by jon777 View Post


Standby Source is set to HDMI3 (Sat/Cbl). Most times it works fine (e.g. if I listening to Pandora and then turn off, passes through Sat/Cbl). However, when turning on BluRay player with AVR off if switches the pass through to BD (which is good), but seems to require turning AVR on and switching inputs to re-enable passing through of Sat/Cbl...

I don't know why the receiver is switching to the BluRay input when off unless it has something to do with CEC. However the receiver is only going to switch to the selected standby source when powered off from being on.
post #18709 of 18969
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Originally Posted by praz View Post


I don't know why the receiver is switching to the BluRay input when off unless it has something to do with CEC. However the receiver is only going to switch to the selected standby source when powered off from being on.

I have basically the same scenario. My HDMI pass-through is set to 'last'. So typically the cable box is used most often. So if the 2112 is off and someone turns on the tv, the cable box will pass thru. Perfect. But the same thing happens when I turn on the Sony Blu-ray player. The 2112 will switch the output to the blu-ray player. That's great too, since if we turned the blu-ray on we probably wanted to watch it. But like the OP mentioned, when we turn the blu-ray off the 2112 doesn't revert back to the cable box. I even tried turning the cable box off and then on again, so simulate a 'new' signal being introduced to one of the 2112 inputs, but no dice. The only way to get the 2112 to pass thru the cable box is to turn on the receiver and select the SAT/CBL input. So its sensing that a new HDMI signal is available when the Blu-ray player is turned on and it switches to that as the pass-thru signal, but not vice-versa.
post #18710 of 18969
Can this receiver play an HDMI source while listening to another non HDMI source, such as streaming or an analog connection?
post #18711 of 18969
^^
Streaming ... no. .... analog connected to the inputs using the same input source name as the HDMI video source, yes.
post #18712 of 18969
And from that point I am assuming it's as simple as going in the menu and assigning the audio for that input to the analog instead of HDMI?
post #18713 of 18969
Yup. INPUT MODE for that source get changed from "Auto" to "Analog". smile.gif
post #18714 of 18969
Hey I have a question that I've seen discussed and debated on here and different sites. Hoping for a consensus.

I have a 2312 and (2) Klipsch RW-12d subwoofers. I ran Audyssey and kept lowering the volume on the subs until they were both at -32db and Audyssey registered LFE at -1.0. (Other settings are Phase 180, Depth, Lowpass Off). The thing is I don't get much bass during films / TV etc with these settings, but people on the forums have said to control sub volume through the receiver, which still doesn't give me much. I decided to raise the volume on the subs to -20db and I'm finally getting smashing bass, but I feel like I'm doing it "wrong". Can anybody set me straight?

Other equipment include the Klipsch Icon W series of speakers bought from Newegg last year (fronts, center, surrounds).

Thanks:)
post #18715 of 18969
Not sure what you mean by -32db and -20db? When you run Audyssey, the subs are calibrated to a 75db test tone.
post #18716 of 18969
I mean on the subs, those are the volumes I've been tweaking on the subs in order to get the receiver as close to 0dB.
post #18717 of 18969
Ah ... okay, so then put the sub volume dials back to -32db and -20db and use the Sub Level setting on the AVR to raise the volume 5db or so to suit your preference.
post #18718 of 18969
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

^^
1. Not sure what you mean by "requires"? When you run Audyssey, the AVR will detect no center speaker and will simply down mix any 5.1 signal to your 2.0, 2.1, 4.1 or 4.0 setup.
2. Sometimes adding an HDMI switch between the AVR and the TV will resolve the issue.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1465528/the-official-2013-denon-e-series-x-series-avr-model-owners-thread-faq/0_100#user_L12

 

Do you have a recommendation on the switcher to use to allow for better recognition of when the HDMI turns on? There seem to be a number of options out there.

post #18719 of 18969
Any from forum sponsor Monoprice would likely do quite well.
post #18720 of 18969
Ok, I'll give that a try, thanks JD
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