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post #18781 of 18965
I have a Denon 2312, and I just changed my bluray player to the Sony BDP-S5100.

Interesting phenonmenon.

Not all HDMI inputs are the same?

When I connect the HDMI output from the BDP to the Denon BD input, it does not detect any signal.
I swap with the STB, DVR, DVD, AUX HDMI inputs, same results....no signal. If I connect my PS3 to the BD input, it works. So the BD HDMI inout on the Denon is not damaged.

But if I use the Game 1 and Game 2 HDMI inputs, it works!
My older Panasonic bluray player does not face this issue. Nor is it a HDMI cable issue, as I plug in direct to the TV and the TV can receive it.

In the end, I just rename the Game 1 channel to BD and DTS sound, and 3D still works. PS3 is now connected to the BD input.

But I am perplexed as to why there is a difference? Are not all HDMI inputs the same?

Can any expert advice? TIA!
Edited by CY Tan - 1/16/14 at 10:36am
post #18782 of 18965
^^
I have the Sony BDP-S5100 hooked up to my 2112 to the BD input and all is fine. It even does the HDMI pass-through when the 2112 is off.
post #18783 of 18965
Thread Starter 
The HDMI inputs are theoretically the same (no difference in specs or processing ability) but the phenomenon you describe has been noted many times before. In practice, HDMI is an extremely finicky and poorly implemented connection format, and is very sensitive to things like signal path length for example. It is what it is....
post #18784 of 18965
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

The HDMI inputs are theoretically the same (no difference in specs or processing ability) but the phenomenon you describe has been noted many times before. In practice, HDMI is an extremely finicky and poorly implemented connection format, and is very sensitive to things like signal path length for example. It is what it is....

Thanks batpig! (hoping you would answer my post).

In your experience, would re-setting my Denon to factory defaults help? I do not want to go thru the entire calibration process again if it does not help. Thanks.
post #18785 of 18965
Thread Starter 
I doubt it. HDMI is just kind of silly sometimes. If you found an HDMI input that works with that device, just roll with it. You can always reassign / rename at your discretion so it's not any functional limitation to have the device on HDMI-1 vs. HDMI-4 or whatever.
post #18786 of 18965
I have 2112-CI and I would like to stream music from my Android phone (e.g. Spotify). I already have Pandora through the receiver itself. But I would like to stream via Spotify as well. Is there a way I can do this? Also does the receiver support DLNA?

Thanks in advance.
post #18787 of 18965
Thread Starter 
The receiver does support DLNA but it does NOT have Spotify built in (this was added in the next year as a firmware update to the xx13 models and then standard in the new E/X Series models).

So you need some functionality which would allow you to "piggyback" on the DLNA or Airplay streaming function to beam the audio from Spotify or other Android apps to the receiver. I have to imagine there are Android apps which can do this and stream audio from the phone to a DLNA endpoint; unfortunately (for you!) I am an iPhone/iPad guy so I just use Airplay, and thus don't have specific suggestions for you.
post #18788 of 18965
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Originally Posted by bonline View Post

I have 2112-CI and I would like to stream music from my Android phone (e.g. Spotify). I already have Pandora through the receiver itself. But I would like to stream via Spotify as well. Is there a way I can do this? Also does the receiver support DLNA?

Thanks in advance.

Yes, the AVR supports DLNA. The below link provides info on streaming Spotify ....

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1465528/the-official-2013-denon-e-series-x-series-avr-model-owners-thread-faq/0_100#user_G9
post #18789 of 18965
Batpig - thank you. For those in the same situation as me, you can download AllCast app and see if the DLNA works for you.
post #18790 of 18965
Help - can't load configuration file.

I'm having a big problem reloading a saved config file on my 2112. I was trying to use the Wii today which is hooked up to the DVD/component input. For some reason the audio was being sent through to the TV, but not the video. I've run into this problem in the past, sometimes its the NET/USB video signal that is a problem, sometimes its the Video Aux, and usually a processor reset followed by a reload of the config file fixes everything. This time, however, when trying to reload the config file the 2112 just displays "loading" forever. The web interface says that the upload was successful and that the AV will restart automatically, but it just never does. I've had to pull the power several times now as I don't know any other way to force a power off from the front panel. I've attached the config file I'm trying to use. Can anyone take a look at it and see if there are any problems? I'm open to any other suggestions as what to do. This is especially ticking me off as I just reran Audessy today to calibrate the new front speakers I got for Christmas.

Thanks for any help,
Chris
avr2112.dat.zip 61k .zip file
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post #18792 of 18965
I had the same problem a couple weeks ago. Might of had something to do with the router or receiver dropping the network connection. I enabled network standby on the receiver and it worked right away.
post #18793 of 18965
I opened it up with TextEdit and there was a bunch of stuff in there. It was mostly gibberish but there were bits of legible words here and there. I had attached the config file to my post. If anyone wants to take a look
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

^^
Did you confirm that the SAVE file was a valid file of non-zero data?

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1465528/the-official-2013-denon-e-series-x-series-avr-model-owners-thread-faq/0_100#user_E9
post #18794 of 18965
I'll try that tomorrow. I do generally have that off so as to conserve power.
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Originally Posted by Mrkazador View Post

I had the same problem a couple weeks ago. Might of had something to do with the router or receiver dropping the network connection. I enabled network standby on the receiver and it worked right away.
post #18795 of 18965
^^So I turned on Network Standby and then did a microprocessor reset and I'm still having the same problem. The display has been showing 'loading' for the last 30 minutes. The strange thing is that in the web interface from where I loaded the config file I was able to see the upload bar progress to 100%, then the message that it uploaded successfully and would restart automatically was displayed. Just out of curiosity I went over to another computer and tried to connect to the web interface. It came up, but with 3 zone buttons on the main screen. I clicked the setup link and although the response was very slow I was able to click to the Information then Status screen. However, the Status screen shows all of the fields, but none of them have any data. So it's like the config was partially loaded, the unit is sort of connected, but obviously there is a significant problem. I'm wondering if after doing the microprocessor reset should I try to do a firmware update before loading the saved config file? Maybe the config file only works if the firmware is up to date and the reset rolls back the firmware revision???

Also wondering if anyone can take a look at the config file I posted a few posts back. It would be great just to get some verification that the file itself is ok.

I'm open to any suggestions. I'm really getting tired of unplugging the whole power strip for the entire AV rack (can't get to the individual plug for the 2112).

Thanks,
Chris
post #18796 of 18965
Try doing a "network reset" as noted in post #5 of this thread. Also note that a reset has no effect on the firmware version.
post #18797 of 18965
^^ I believe I did that but will try it again today. FWIW, I sent Denon a copy of my config file and they said that it loads fine on their test system. They want me to send it for service. I'd really like to avoid doing that as I find it hard to believe that something is wrong since every other function seems to work. Once I do the network reset, is there any specific steps I should follow immediately after it starts up before I try to reload the config file?

Thanks,
Chris
post #18798 of 18965
A network reset is different from a microprocessor reset. After the reset, use the normal LOAD procedure; however, if still no joy I would just create a new SAVE file and try to LOAD that before submitting for service.
post #18799 of 18965
Ok, after the reset should I still perform the basic setup steps first? That's what comes on screen right after doing the reset.
post #18800 of 18965
Does matter either way, although if the point is to try and load the SAVE file, no sense in doing another setup just yet..
post #18801 of 18965
Last night my 3312 starting making a clicking noise, every couple of seconds, like the sound when it powers on or off; this continued for around 30 seconds. There was not change in picture or sound that I recall, but then the kids were making a bit of noise, so I can't be sure on the sound.

Any ideas?

Thanks.

Mark
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Originally Posted by giomania View Post

Last night my 3312 starting making a clicking noise, every couple of seconds, like the sound when it powers on or off; this continued for around 30 seconds. There was not change in picture or sound that I recall, but then the kids were making a bit of noise, so I can't be sure on the sound.

Any ideas?

Thanks.

Mark

 

I get that clicking sound when my center channel goes out.

post #18803 of 18965
Me, too; but my Center & Surrounds go out. Clicking is the Amp(s) going on & off.

Temp fix for me: press down on top rear of AVR near the HDMI out, clicking & channels return. Been months since they've acted up.
post #18804 of 18965
Here's a whacky one, I wonder if JD or batpig know before I attempt things:

When zone2 is used for front height speakers, can the Zone2 Quick Selects be used for the main zone?

I would ideally like to have 10 Quick Selects available for the main zone to be able to quickly select different Audessy settings for my various inputs.


Thanks!
post #18805 of 18965
^ I'll answer myself wink.gif

Unfortunately this does not work frown.gif
post #18806 of 18965
OK, so I got a new Samsung 65" 3D LED Smart TV (2013 model, so ARC - or Anynet+ - is supported. I could not get ARC working despite making sure that all the connections and settings are correct on both the TV and my 2312Ci. I even replaced the HDMI cable in case my cheapy from Monoprice was the issue - nothing.

So, I connected a toslink cable and it works - Hallelujah! However, there's a small problem.

When I turn everything on, the Smart features display on the screen (since turned off to get the main input from the DirecTV Genie) and then the Rx switches to TV mode! It's a simple matter of switching the input back to SAT/CBL, but it's a minor annoyance.

Is there any way round this?
post #18807 of 18965
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Originally Posted by Guindalf View Post

OK, so I got a new Samsung 65" 3D LED Smart TV (2013 model, so ARC - or Anynet+ - is supported. I could not get ARC working despite making sure that all the connections and settings are correct on both the TV and my 2312Ci. I even replaced the HDMI cable in case my cheapy from Monoprice was the issue - nothing.

So, I connected a toslink cable and it works - Hallelujah! However, there's a small problem.

When I turn everything on, the Smart features display on the screen (since turned off to get the main input from the DirecTV Genie) and then the Rx switches to TV mode! It's a simple matter of switching the input back to SAT/CBL, but it's a minor annoyance.

Is there any way round this?

To disable the auto-switching to the TV input on the receiver, you should disable CEC in both the TV and the receiver.
post #18808 of 18965
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Originally Posted by Selden Ball View Post

To disable the auto-switching to the TV input on the receiver, you should disable CEC in both the TV and the receiver.

When I tried that, the selection for Receiver for sound was grayed out and I couldn't select anything but the TV for all audio!
post #18809 of 18965
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Originally Posted by Guindalf View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Selden Ball View Post

To disable the auto-switching to the TV input on the receiver, you should disable CEC in both the TV and the receiver.

When I tried that, the selection for Receiver for sound was grayed out and I couldn't select anything but the TV for all audio!
That certainly shouldn't have happened frown.gif Turning it off in the receiver might be adequate.

You also might try connecting the receiver to a different HDMI port on the TV instead of the one intended for ARC. I'm rashly assuming that CEC is only sent on the ARC port, but I could be wrong.
post #18810 of 18965
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guindalf View Post

OK, so I got a new Samsung 65" 3D LED Smart TV (2013 model, so ARC - or Anynet+ - is supported. I could not get ARC working despite making sure that all the connections and settings are correct on both the TV and my 2312Ci. I even replaced the HDMI cable in case my cheapy from Monoprice was the issue - nothing.

So, I connected a toslink cable and it works - Hallelujah! However, there's a small problem.

When I turn everything on, the Smart features display on the screen (since turned off to get the main input from the DirecTV Genie) and then the Rx switches to TV mode! It's a simple matter of switching the input back to SAT/CBL, but it's a minor annoyance.

Is there any way round this?

Because you have disabled ARC and no longer require it, you can 'delete' TV from the AVRs available input selection - System Setup / Option Setup / Source Delete.

The AVR will no longer be able to use TV (ARC) and your problem will be resolved.
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