The **OFFICIAL** Denon AVR-XX12 Model Owner's Thread - Page 8

Originally Posted by beastaudio


what are you going to do with your gold and silver? walk into Walmart and buy some shoes with it? Buy land and cattle

check out the oppo 93 if you want dual HDMI out, arguably one of the best BDP's out there

Originally Posted by BurningMustard

Has anyone been able to find a 3312ci in stock? I called 6Ave, but nothing yet.

Originally Posted by batpig

Cinema EQ has been a feature on Denon receivers for at least 10-15 years.

Almost EVERY digital receiver (not just Denon) has had some sort of "high freq rolloff" setting since digital Laser Disc & DVD soundtracks started coming out.

It's essentially an outdated technology at this point, having been superceded by things like THX RE-EQ and now Audyssey MultEQ, which incorporate their own high freq roll-offs to translate the film soundtrack into the home environment.

Originally Posted by Troubledgemini

When the dollar falls what will you use?? You still need some kind of purchasing power to buy land and cattle...or we can barter with our home theater systems...lol !!!!

Originally Posted by jdsmoothie

There is actually .. it's called the "Video Select" feature (p. 98); however, you'll need to connect a component video cable from the Sat/Cbl box and use that input source for it to work as it doesn't work with HDMI sources.

Originally Posted by batpig

have you tried using Audyssey FLAT instead of the standard Audyssey curve?

Originally Posted by DenPureSound

Thanks BatPig --

We will give that a try, as I have not tried that yet.

WOW -- What a difference going with Audyssey FLAT -- the High Fast Transients are now coming through strong, Worked Great, Thanks. Saved that back to BD, by holding down the BD for a few seconds to store it in Memory.

BTW -- when I go to Direct PURE, the Front Display Shuts OFF, how do I set it up to have it stay ON with Direct PURE?

Originally Posted by johnnyletrois

Using "Direct" the display stays on and video out goes to TV. With "Pure Direct," the display goes out and video output is turned off. I believe this is to reduce interference.

BTW, I'm selling my 1912 if anyone is interested. PM for price, well below MSRP.

Originally Posted by DenPureSound

Thanks Johnnyletrois --

I was just wondering if there is anyway to have the Denon fr. panel display on in Pure Direct mode, like is there a setting somewhere?

Why are you selling your 1912?

I am either going 3312 or 4311 (if I can scratch up the extra $$). Would love the 4311CI, as I think it would last for a few years.

Originally Posted by batpig

I don't think anyone really understands what is going on with the 1712. It is basically a stripped-down 1912 (no networking, USB, or video conversion) but with more legacy video support (2 component video inputs + 1 output) and MultEQ XT.

One can only presume that Denon is aiming it at a completely different market than the rest of the models, which seem to make logical sense as you go up the chain. The idea seems to be that it would appeal to buyers who still want robust component video support (e.g. older devices and/or lots of HDMI handshake problems) and cutting edge audio features (MultEQ XT) but don't give a crap about fancy new doo-dads like networking or USB connections, i.e. "here's all the audio quality without having to pay for the other junk you won't actually use". Color me confused still...

Originally Posted by jdsmoothie

^^
As is always the case, the inputs needed obviously have a high priority; however, the DACs are the same and audio fidelity will still have to go to the 1712 with the better Audyssey.

Originally Posted by DenPureSound

Thanks Johnnyletrois --

I was just wondering if there is anyway to have the Denon fr. panel display on in Pure Direct mode, like is there a setting somewhere?

Why are you selling your 1912?

I am either going 3312 or 4311 (if I can scratch up the extra $$). Would love the 4311CI, as I think it would last for a few years.

Originally Posted by johnnyletrois

Selling the 1912 to get the 2112 now that it is available. Want MultiEQ XT.

Originally Posted by batpig

I don't think anyone really understands what is going on with the 1712. It is basically a stripped-down 1912 (no networking, USB, or video conversion) but with more legacy video support (2 component video inputs + 1 output) and MultEQ XT.

One can only presume that Denon is aiming it at a completely different market than the rest of the models, which seem to make logical sense as you go up the chain. The idea seems to be that it would appeal to buyers who still want robust component video support (e.g. older devices and/or lots of HDMI handshake problems) and cutting edge audio features (MultEQ XT) but don't give a crap about fancy new doo-dads like networking or USB connections, i.e. "here's all the audio quality without having to pay for the other junk you won't actually use". Color me confused still...

Originally Posted by PreventerWind

How much of a SQ difference do you think you'll get between MultEQ and MultEQ XT?

Originally Posted by johnnyletrois


Selling the 1912 to get the 2112 now that it is available. Want MultiEQ XT.

Originally Posted by johnnyletrois

Selling the 1912 to get the 2112 now that it is available. Want MultiEQ XT.

Originally Posted by jdsmoothie

^^
That would be defeating the purpose of Pure Direct which also shuts off all video circuitry (as that is the only difference between it and Direct).

Originally Posted by Nighthawk68

But sadly no upconversion.

Originally Posted by batpig

Yes you can! It is called DIRECT mode. Read what JD said again.

The video being on vs off is literally the ONLY difference between "direct" and "pure direct".