The **OFFICIAL** Denon AVR-XX12 Model Owner's Thread - Page 14

No I did not I was just going to get the dual hdmi player u suggested... But now what to do is it a bad recv..and I will check the 1910 owners thread now.

Hi
Anybody knows if the 2313 or 3312 supports a sampling frequency for WAV of 96Khz? The user guide states that the maximum is 48Khz but other mid range like the Onkyo's reach 96Khz.
Many thanks!

Good to hear. I am a firm believer in the powers of Audyssey. It's great what MultiEQ and up can do with a subwoofer. I really would like to try XT32 but it may not be in cards this year. Can you post some pics of the 2112?

If I purchased an open box 3312ci, does the 3 year Denon warranty still apply? This info was on the first page but I wanted to make sure.

I'm moving into a new home and upgrading some of my HT equipment including a new Samsung 3d plasma (59d8000). I will likely upgrade my Denon 789/1909 with the 1912 to support 3D pass-through and ARC. Initially I won't have surrounds until I figure out were to place/mount them so it will be a 3.1 setup. With this speaker setup and and a multichannel source I know the surround channels are routed through the front speakers. I was wondering however if there is any surround simulation mode to at least make the experience a little better until I have real surrounds. It was not clear to me looking through the manual. Thanks.

I'll post some pics of my setup and the 2112 when I get home. It's not perfect but I get by

Sweet. I like to see them in their natural habitat instead of the studio pics that Denon takes. I love my 3310 but I really want XT so I might get a 2312/3311. The 2112 has everything I want except volume overlay. It would be hard to go without now that I've gotten used to it.

Yes, you still get the 3 year warranty.

I have the 3311

Well after an extensive 1 week search I've settled on the 1912. I had wanted to do the 2112, however this was an unexpected upgrade due to lightning and I had just replaced my TV. So while I couldn't get the wife on board with spending more then I did on the 1912, I'm still glad to be getting the thing.

It was my understanding that the 2112 also has a volume overlay. It's shown on page 5 of the manual. I ordered a 2112 unit myself yesterday and it won't get here until next week, but I'm sure someone else here can confirm.

Hope this helps!

Transplant from the Pio 1021-K thread... returned yesterday due to somewhat anemic front channels and intermittent channel popping. Read both threads entirely, and put in my time to choose Airplay - thus 1021 or 1912 until second week of June or so, when I can compare 3312 with new Elites.

1912 out of box and bi-amped in 5.1 - overall warmer and much easier to match my Klipsch RF-62 II (39hz<) mains and older RC-3 (63hz<) center with KS-14(83hz<) surrounds.

Still have not gotten precise sub and bottom blending, though -
current setting, Front LARGE, all others SMALL, sub YES:
crossovers
F 60hz
C 80hz
Surr 100 hz
bass LFE + Main LPF 80hz

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Meh, after 3 edits, ascii art looks fine for me, but always bugs upon posting :P should show rectangular room, av center in alcove, main listening position center back of room, with entry alcove behind right main and hallway/kitchen entry adjacent to left main.

Thanks degobah77,

Its pretty sharp looking. I just went to Best Buy on my lunch break and saw the 1912/1612/1312. The 1712 is not in their inventory yet.

Nice Panasonic. I just converted to Panny Plasmas and I am a believer.

I was wrong, my bad. I thought only the 2312/3312 with the advanced GUI have volume overlay. I guess the 2112 would work for me then. I just want to see how cheap the 3311 gets and if it doesn't come down below 600 I will go with the 2112 then. Thanks.

hey guys,


I have an issue with J&R Music online store returning an AVR 1312 that I recently purchased. They claim there is no CD-R in the box. I did not know it comes with one btw...
I emailed them to see if they can help me resolve this since I do not have a Denon CD-R.

Does somebody here purchased an AVR 1312 and planning on not using the CD-R? I can cover the shipping and transfer a few bucks to paypal or accnt.

Any other suggestions how I can get them a CD so I can exchange my receiver would be great.

Ok, so not sure how I missed that disabling the Dynamic EQ ENABLES Tone Controls, but that is a step in the right direction...

Still have an underperforming sub now, not sure why - some have said they DISABLED sub before running Audyssey, but I did not see that in instructions, and certainly seems odd - must admit that I do not fully understand the LFE vs LFE + Main and LPF setting as relates to perceived changes in soundfield.

Overall, much more pleased with Denon 1912 controls vs. the Pio 1021, albeit the GUI IS UGLY! Remote controls DirecTV functions without programming, and Quick Inputs with Pics on the remote was made for a guy like me!

Also, anyone wondering why I attempted ascii art instead of posting pics is too young and not nearly nerdy enough before forum gremlins fouled my spacing, it should have represented a rectangular room with entry alcove behind right main and hallway/kitchen entry adjacent to left main - entire av center is in 2x6 alcove.

The CD-R is Denon's new way of providing the Owner's manual. You likely have it laying around somewhere after everything was unpacked.

Set your front L/R speakers to SMALL (as is recommended when using a sub) with either 60hz or 80hz crossover and you don't have to worry about the sub setting.

Also, the "bi-amp" configuration you're doing isn't adding any more power if that is your intention.

Those haven't shipped. You don't have a 3312CI.

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More likely the OP was asking a "what if" question as open box purchases can generally be had for less than the regular asking price yet still come with the full warranty.

I started all settings SMALL and 80hz crossover, as suggested - could not get the depth and punch I expected from the mains.

Currently LARGE 60hz F, SMALL 80hz Center, SMALL 100 hz Surround and getting close to the tone I was after.

Bi-amped as I didn't really want to waste the inputs while runnig 5.1, and it seems a shame not to give nice Reference line speakers separate signals for highs and lows - that is how they were designed, no?

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Then with your mains set to LARGE .. the sub LFE+Main/LFE settings apply to the front mains only with the LFE+MAIN setting having the sub getting "double bass" (ie. LFE + low freq from the mains below the 60hz crossover) while the LFE setting means the sub only gets the LFE and nothing from the front mains.

Your front mains are getting the same full range signal either way you have them wired.

Also, you'll want to return the setting to it's factory default of 120hz.

Ok so I understand that when you want to use Apple's "Airplay" on Zone 2 that it will also have to play on Zone 1. But i'm confused on other parts of Zone 2 usage.

What about the networked aspect of the AVR?

Can I have audio files on a PC/Mac/or External Hard Drive (backup share) that can be played by the AVR to Zone 2 without playing on Zone 1? I'm assuming that the AVR will find my music and just play it somehow. Possibly with the Denon Remote App for the iPhone. That's not "AirPlay" is it?

Can I use Rhapsody through the network aspect of the AVR to play to Zone 2 without playing on Zone 1?

Can I use Napster through the network aspect of the AVR to play Zone 2 without playing on Zone 1?

Are there other Networked applications for the AVR? (Pandora, Slacker, Rdio, MOG, TuneIn, Yahoo Music)?

The Network portion of the manuals for the 1912, 2112, and 2312 are pretty bland.

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The "hijacking of Zone 1" issue only applies to Airplay. Network audio can play to Zone 2 with another source in the main zone as can external analog connected sources as well.

Thats good news.

Do you know anymore about the Network applications that are offered for the Denons? Am I stuck with Napster (so 2000) and Rhapsody (also 2000)?

The Owner manuals list Napster, Pandora, and Rhapsody along with the thousands of non-subscription internet radio stations.

Thanks, I missed that part of the manual. I only saw Napster and Rhapsody.

Great thread. I was all set to try and grab an 891 on clearance over the next few weeks, and now I am really leaning towards a 2112 or 2312.

Does this mean Denon is ditching the dual model lines (ie. 791 vs 1911 / 891 vs 2311) and just going with one model line?