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post #5881 of 18069
10/31/11 at 8:21am
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Are you using a Quick Select button?

Nope. I use the MOVIE and MUSIC buttons at the bottom right of the remote (next to the number pad) to cycle through the various modes.

I just tried this again & it does not seem to happen all the time. I need to observe and check if it happens ONLY in specific scenarios.

However, can I assume that the receiver will remember the individual channel volume levels in all modes by design (even if I switch off the power and switch it on again).
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post #5882 of 18069
10/31/11 at 9:26am
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post


If HDMI Control is set to ON, it is not possible to assign an HDMI input to the "TV" source.

That must be it. I experimented with hdmi control. I think I'll turn that off.

Thanks.
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post #5883 of 18069
10/31/11 at 9:31am
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Originally Posted by mahesh.sri View Post

Nope. I use the MOVIE and MUSIC buttons at the bottom right of the remote (next to the number pad) to cycle through the various modes.

I just tried this again & it does not seem to happen all the time. I need to observe and check if it happens ONLY in specific scenarios.

However, can I assume that the receiver will remember the individual channel volume levels in all modes by design (even if I switch off the power and switch it on again).

Normally, unless using a Quick Select with different channel levels, all multi ch audio surround modes should retain the same global levels and when using the custom Stereo settings, a separate set of levels. These levels will be maintained while the AVR is in Standby and up to 1-2 weeks when the power is removed.
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post #5884 of 18069
10/31/11 at 1:59pm
Does going to the MultEQ XT in a 2112 lose the Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume features that are included with MultEQ in a 1612? Page 1 doesn't clearly say it.
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post #5885 of 18069
10/31/11 at 2:14pm
Not at all .. every model from the 1612 on up includes some version of Audyssey MultEQ as well as both Dyn EQ/Vol. However, note that the 1712 and the 2112CI use the same version of Audyssey MultEQ XT.
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post #5886 of 18069
10/31/11 at 4:47pm
Couple of questions regarding 2312/3312:
- Does any of these have option of manually adjusting the sound frequency, like a graphic equilizer or is it all Auto. I am comparing it with Onkyo 809 receiver which has that feature.
- Will 2312's 105w/channel be enough for a room size of 14'Wx19'Lx10'h.

Thanks in advance
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post #5887 of 18069
10/31/11 at 5:27pm
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1. Yes, all Denon AVRs with Audyssey have a Manual setting just as does the Onkyo, however, Audyssey is disabled when Manual setting is selected.
2. Perhaps, although so would the 2112CI depending on the sensitivity of your speakers.
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post #5888 of 18069
10/31/11 at 5:53pm
Have Denon AVR 591. Headphone jack went bad after 9 months. Now, speaker sound doesn't even quit when I plug in.

Just set up new AVR 1312 E3 as a replacement. Headphones don't work, straight away. Speaker sound does cut off. Checked two sets of headphones, two sets of adapters. Help!
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post #5889 of 18069
10/31/11 at 6:01pm
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If you purchased the 591 from an authorized reseller, it's under warranty so you can get it repaired. Note that you are downgrading by going to the 1312 as it doesn't use Audyssey. Try resetting the microprocessor (p. 57) on the 1312.
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post #5890 of 18069
10/31/11 at 6:26pm
Thanks. Purchase was about August 2010. Have to check with Best Buy whether warranty is still good. Did not buy a policy with Best Buy.

Will reset require me to reprogram my Harmony remote? Just paid Geek Squad to do it this afternoon.
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post #5891 of 18069
10/31/11 at 6:29pm
^^
The Denon warranty is 2 years so it's still valid. A reset shouldn't change your remote settings, although not sure why you had to pay Geek Squad ..... AFAIK, you simply download the settings from the Logitech database.
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post #5892 of 18069
10/31/11 at 8:04pm
From Thread 2:
Stepping up from the 2112ci to the 2312ci adds:
--- Upscaling any signal up to 1080p

Stepping up from the 2312ci to the 3312ci adds:
* Ability to scale sources to 1080p/24

Is it really worth to pay extra for 1080p/24 upscaling. I'll be running all my video connections thru AVR. I have a 55" 240hz 3D Sony TV.

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post #5893 of 18069
10/31/11 at 8:54pm
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Originally Posted by DRAUJLA View Post

From Thread 2:
Stepping up from the 2112ci to the 2312ci adds:
--- Upscaling any signal up to 1080p

Stepping up from the 2312ci to the 3312ci adds:
* Ability to scale sources to 1080p/24

Is it really worth to pay extra for 1080p/24 upscaling. I'll be running all my video connections thru AVR. I have a 55" 240hz 3D Sony TV.

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You'll never use the 1080p/24 scaling option. That is hardly a selling point, just a feature set that's enabled on the chip.

Seriously, don't use it.

3312 gives you AL32 processing for digital noise shaping, HD radio, dual HDMI outputs, preamp outputs for the main zone.
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post #5894 of 18069
10/31/11 at 8:59pm
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Normally, unless using a Quick Select with different channel levels, all multi ch audio surround modes should retain the same global levels and when using the custom Stereo settings, a separate set of levels. These levels will be maintained while the AVR is in Standby and up to 1-2 weeks when the power is removed.

Actually, the differing channel levels per surround mode feature is something that seems to come and go each model year with Denon. It's simply part of the Personal Memory Plus feature set. I'm pretty sure the 3310 didn't do it because Denon thought no one used it but I think Matt told me they brought that back with the 3311.
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post #5895 of 18069
10/31/11 at 9:51pm
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Thanks for the help! I'll check my networking equipment and see if that does the trick.

I was able to finally figure out the issue. For all those having trouble with AirPlay, check your router settings. I have a Linksys WRT610N, where I had to adjust the Internet filter settings. I have to "check mark" the filter multicast option under the security tab of the router settings. This immediately solved my issue and I am now enjoying the AirPlay feature. I hope this helps anyone having the same troubles.
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post #5896 of 18069
10/31/11 at 10:19pm
Hello Everyone,

I'm new here and I've been following up some threads.

I have a quick and simple question. I'm about to buy a Denon AVR-1612 and two Klipsch towers RF-82. At this moment, I don't want to buy the whole package (front, center, rear, sub..). I don't really want to build up a Home theater right now because my budget is really short.


What would you buy? Proceed with the AVR-1612 or would you buy a dedicated 2 channel receiver?


I'm planning on buying the center, rear and subwoofer in the near future.

Is there anything else available?


I'm getting the following prices:

RF-82 deal - Buy one get one free ($449,99)
Denon 1612 - $349,99

Thanks!
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post #5897 of 18069
11/1/11 at 1:33am
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Originally Posted by runner2k View Post

Hello Everyone,

I'm new here and I've been following up some threads.

I have a quick and simple question. I'm about to buy a Denon AVR-1612 and two Klipsch towers RF-82. At this moment, I don't want to buy the whole package (front, center, rear, sub..). I don't really want to build up a Home theater right now because my budget is really short.


What would you buy? Proceed with the AVR-1612 or would you buy a dedicated 2 channel receiver?


I'm planning on buying the center, rear and subwoofer in the near future.

Is there anything else available?


I'm getting the following prices:

RF-82 deal - Buy one get one free ($449,99)
Denon 1612 - $349,99

Thanks!

Hi

you can wait for other veterans on this forum to respond with their opinion.. However, here's my 2 cents...

The 1612 at 75 watts per channel is seriously underpowered to drive the RF82 towers... especially if you plan to add the remaining 3.1 channels at a later point.

I had bought the 1612 to drive my Jamo C 607 front towers with the intention of buying the surrounds and center later. I soon exchanged the 1612 for the 1912 as advised by my dealer (I can notice the difference now having used the 1612 for a week).

Having said that, if you intend to stick to stereo music buying a dedicated 2 channel AMP is the best option.
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post #5898 of 18069
11/1/11 at 2:53am
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Originally Posted by runner2k View Post

I have a quick and simple question. I'm about to buy a Denon AVR-1612 and two Klipsch towers RF-82. At this moment, I don't want to buy the whole package (front, center, rear, sub..). I don't really want to build up a Home theater right now because my budget is really short.


What would you buy? Proceed with the AVR-1612 or would you buy a dedicated 2 channel receiver?


Those Klipsch are very easy to drive at 98db efficiency, using at most only 1-2W/CH the majority of your listening time. As you plan on expanding to 5.1, the 1612 will allow you to do that as well as feature Audyssey MultEQ to calibrate your two speakers for now and then the whole 5.1 setup as you add more speakers.
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post #5899 of 18069
11/1/11 at 6:11am
Hello mahesh.sri and jdsmoothie,

Thank you for your help.

So, mahesh said I should take a better (powerful) receiver.

From my understanding, jdsmoothie said the 1612 should be just fine due to the drive sensibility(98db).

any tips?

Also, in case I buy the AVR 1612, I wouldn't use the center + rear channels.

Is it possible to kind of "bi-amp" the two towers? I've seen the connectors and there is 2 pairs and I assume that one is dedicated to the Woofers and another to the Tweeter/Drive...

Can this be done on the 1612?
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post #5900 of 18069
11/1/11 at 6:22am
^^
No, the "bi-amp" feature is only available on 7.1 models (ie. 1712 and higher), although doing so will provide no real benefit in either additional power or better audio fidelity. Also note that the Jamo speakers used by mahesh are very inefficient compared to your Klipsch.
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post #5901 of 18069
11/1/11 at 6:23am
@runner...

jd is correct... the numbers don't lie... you could likely drive those speakers with a 9 volt battery....

passive bi-amping (which is what you are describing) is worthless... don't bother...
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post #5902 of 18069
11/1/11 at 6:40am
lol!!

Thanks guys,

I just asked Mahesh about their Jamo towers.

I was thinking of buying the Klipsch RF 62 (pair) + Subwoofer. Then, I realized that I don't have enough room for that! lol

I'm only heading to the RF-82 because they have 8" woofer instead of 6,5". Of course I will never get the felling of having a subwoofer by buying the RF82(15-30hz frequency, low, bass feeling..). Still will be better than the RF 62.

Any ideas?

I wanted to do something really simple and I want to avoid upgrades. I guess I need to rear both configuration at the store:

1) Denon 1612 + RF82.
2) Denon 1612 + RF62 + Subwoofer.
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post #5903 of 18069
11/1/11 at 6:43am
62+subwoofer would be the "better option"...

edit: i wouldn't buy a klipsch sub though.... there's a bunch of other better options...

edit: i know mahesh is trying to help you, but what he is telling you is incorrect...
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post #5904 of 18069
11/1/11 at 6:50am
^^

+1

@runner - the RF62 is nearly as efficient as the RF82, however, even with the RF82, low end on paper is only 33hz. Better served with a dedicated sub .... which, keep in mind, can be placed a number of different places in the room (not necessarily up front with the main speakers).
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post #5905 of 18069
11/1/11 at 6:55am
Well, my living room is really really tiny. It is not the best place to have a HT, that is for sure.

The living is a kitchen+living room stile. Just the TV space is about 4meters x 6 meters. Don't laugh! lol!
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post #5906 of 18069
11/1/11 at 6:59am
Question:

Should I open a new thread dedicated to my questions?

I want to compare both options and post up the package prices.
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post #5907 of 18069
11/1/11 at 6:59am
That's not really that small at all. You can do the sub crawl to determine the best place in the room to place the sub.
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post #5908 of 18069
11/1/11 at 7:02am
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Originally Posted by runner2k View Post

Well, my living room is really really tiny. It is not the best place to have a HT, that is for sure.

The living is a kitchen+living room stile. Just the TV space is about 4meters x 6 meters. Don't laugh! lol!

that's not that small... it's a bit larger than my room, and i have 5 speakers, 2 subwoofers, and a projector in mine... so you have PLENTY of room...
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post #5909 of 18069
11/1/11 at 7:09am
Honestly, I'm a fan of B&W towers but I can't afford it. LoL
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post #5910 of 18069
11/1/11 at 7:11am
jdsmoothie, I checked the video. I know what you mean by sub crawl now.

Should I create a new thread dedicated to my questions?
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