The **OFFICIAL** Denon AVR-XX12 Model Owner's Thread - Page 283

Originally Posted by enzymez

Just received my 2112ci this week, and I need help connecting my sub. This is my first audio system.

I don't quite understand because from the receiver, the subwoofer pre-out has one jack, but on the sub there are two jacks in the LINE IN, right & left(LFE), looks like RCA too. The sub is a Klipsch KSW10.

Originally Posted by Hilfiger1975

Would i need a sub EQ if i buy a Rythmik FV12? Doesn't the Rythmik offer that already on the amp?

Originally Posted by drWaLLs

Follow up question - can I install separate speakers where this secondary TV is and use zone 2 for audio?

Example - TV outside with two speakers hooked to zone 2, HDMI out to both TVs, receiver set to amp - not sure if I'm explaining it well.

Originally Posted by grinny

Actually, I can get them both to turn off, but I can't get them both to turn back on again (the AVR won't come back on).

I only see a couple workarounds:
1) program the remote to send separate on/off signals to both devices (which if the remote loses line-of-sight can get them out of sync).
2) Plug Tivo into TV via HDMI and have the Tivo audio reach the AVR via ARC, so that if the TV is off, the AVR can't get any sound from the Tivo. Probably the best (only?) option.

Originally Posted by Nethawk

I was hoping to use the 3312's dual HDMI out ports for video/audio to main HT display and that my office. If I understand jdsmoothie's response to a previous question, this will not be possible as I would naturally run HDMI 1 audio through the AMP and HDMI 2 audio to the second display. Is my understanding correct?

If so, bummer! Since these are on separate floors of the house an HDMI switch would be a big inconvenience. Is this simply a silly oversight or a stipulation of HDMI? Are there AVR that support separate audio configurations of second HDMI output? I see no easy workaround.

Thanks in advance, and apologies if this has been covered.

Originally Posted by enzymez

Just received my 2112ci this week, and I need help connecting my sub. This is my first audio system.

I don't quite understand because from the receiver, the subwoofer pre-out has one jack, but on the sub there are two jacks in the LINE IN, right & left(LFE), looks like RCA too. The sub is a Klipsch KSW10.

Originally Posted by Dr. Crash

Does Electronic Expo still offer phone deals on the Denons like the $369-$399 2112? If so, any specific extension number to ask for?

Originally Posted by nikivan

After updating to the latest firmware today only HDMI 1 works. I am getting black screen with the other HDMI inputs. I've double-checked the input settings are correct. The update routine did not show any errors. Any suggestions how to troubleshoot this?

Originally Posted by grinny

Hello,

Maybe more digging through this excellent forum would turn up an answer, but I am running out of time so please excuse my ignorance.

Just got the 1712. Have a Tivo plugged into it via HDMI (though the Tivo might as well be any cable box), and the receiver plugged into a Samsung LED via HDMI. I've been trying all HDMI control options I can find using the guide at the start of this thread, but I can't find a configuration that will turn off the TV and the AVR together (if the AVR stays on it will continue to play the audio from the Tivo regardless if the TV is on). Actually, I can get them both to turn off, but I can't get them both to turn back on again (the AVR won't come back on).

I only see a couple workarounds:
1) program the remote to send separate on/off signals to both devices (which if the remote loses line-of-sight can get them out of sync).
2) Plug Tivo into TV via HDMI and have the Tivo audio reach the AVR via ARC, so that if the TV is off, the AVR can't get any sound from the Tivo. Probably the best (only?) option.

Wondering if there is some other combination of settings I am missing?

Funny with all these cool features, the one that bugs me the most is the on/off button.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by ditrasetman

I posted this as a separate thread, but really
The menus are crisp and look good on my 2112ci. However, when I am in the USB/Ipod function on the unit, the on screen display is a tiny bit fuzzy/blurry - it almost looks like it has a small amount of flicker to it. But, like I said above, the rest of the on screen displays and menus are crisp and clear. Is this normal?

Originally Posted by jdsmoothie

Ensure that HDMI Control is set to ON on the AVR. Although this setting generally always works to turn the TV/AVR combo off (as noted in the Owner's manual), it doesn't always work to turn the TV/AVR both back ON again. In addition to the work arounds you suggest, a Harmony remote would also be an option as well as contributing to the WAF.

Originally Posted by carpboy


I continue to have HDMI-control issues, I really want to control the volume of the AVR via the DVR remote, set to the TV as I can't get the remote to work the AVR directly. Can HDMI-control adjust the AVR volume from the TV back up to the AVR?

Thanks again.

Originally Posted by freakjim

The Net/USB seems to be at a fairly low resolution, my TV reports a resolution of 720 x 480 while using Net/USB, Tuner resolution is 1280 x 720 and 1920 x 1080 for my HTPC and Disc player.

Originally Posted by grinny

Thanks for the suggestion. I was afraid of getting the Harmony remote option (since I love my Tivo remote), but I will consider it more. If the Harmony is smart enough to avoid getting the power states of multiple units out of sync, that might be really nice.

Actually, I think I can program my Tivo Slide remote to turn on two units together (TV+AVR), and as long as the HDMI control always will turn both units off, the chance of them getting out of sync is not so high I guess.

Do other brands of receivers have the same issue? I would guess they do, since it appears to be a general HDMI control limitation. But I will research what brands might work best with Samsung TVs just in case.

But maybe I will just use ARC since I have plenty of inputs (though it seems crazy not to plug all the units into the 'receiver', which should be best at receiving. I can plug Tivo & BD into TV, and use ARC to connect TV to AVR. My only fear with that is if there can be different audio sync delay for Tivo vs. BD. I've had some audio sync problems before, but it wasn't clear to me if it was a problem with the av source or with my connection. So far as I have read, the audio sync should always be fixed, and I guess it should be if all audio reaches AVR by ARC. But if I plugged the BD into AVR directly, would that still be true? I am not certain.

Originally Posted by ditrasetman

Ok, so it is normal for the NET/USB menu to look ugly? It is just fuzzy, and low res - and my 60" tv makes it look even worse.

Originally Posted by J e f f

Update.... I just got off the phone with Denon and was told that there is no way it’s a hardware issue with the missing net/usb video, said it was totally a software thing and they are working on a fix. So I have decided to keep my 2112ci, Love this thing other than this one issue.

Originally Posted by ketchgould

Thanks Jeff, I'll call and complain too. Might help with a real fix, concerning the GUI net video not showing up.

Originally Posted by jdsmoothie

Do you guys with the "missing GUI on NET/USB source" still have this issue with the latest firmware update from a week or so ago installed?

Originally Posted by jdsmoothie

Do you guys with the "missing GUI on NET/USB source" still have this issue with the latest firmware update from a week or so ago installed?

Originally Posted by jdsmoothie

Do you guys with the "missing GUI on NET/USB source" still have this issue with the latest firmware update from a week or so ago installed?

Originally Posted by Kalani

YPAO and MCACC are the Yamaha and Pioneer flavors.

Most consider Audyssey to be the best, particularly the higher end XT and XT32 varieties.

If you prefer the sound of the Yamaha or Pioneer room correction, however, SOME of the advantage of Audyssey could be restored by using some special hardware to EQ your sub separately, since those don't EQ the sub and Audyssey does. (Actually I think someone said that the highest level version of YPAO on the flagship AVR does EQ the sub, but I haven't verified that.)

Originally Posted by Osamede

Need some clarification on this, but I could have sworn there was a thread on here where someone mentioned that he had one of those particular receivers with that version of YPAO ( the top two Aventage models). Problem he experienced was that it was only EQ'ing down to about 40 or 50 hz AND was cutting off the sound signal below that. Not just ignoring the extreme lower frequency signal but actually butchering it off.

Originally Posted by jdsmoothie

If the DVR is passing only PCM 2.0 to the AVR, then this is an issue with your DVR, not the AVR; however, note that although a TV show might advertise being broadcast in DD 5.1, the local station may choose to broadcast in only PCM 2.0. Try resetting your DVR (power OFF/ON).

If you have the HDMI-CEC feature set correctly on both your TV and the AVR and are still unable to control the AVR's volume with your TV remote, your best configuration may be to connect the DVR HDMI directly to the TV with optical from the DVR to the AVR for surround audio.

Originally Posted by jdsmoothie


Do you guys with the "missing GUI on NET/USB source" still have this issue with the latest firmware update from a week or so ago installed?

Originally Posted by Possumgirl

I think I saw you post before that you have a Panny ST30? Did you change the audio settings on the Panny to "home theater" and turn TV speakers off? I have an ST30 & AVR1612 and the HDMI-CTL works perfectly. They go on/off together and I can control AVR volume with any remote that can control the TV.

Originally Posted by ketchgould

I have the GUI issue after the update.

Originally Posted by atari1980

Not fixed after the last update for me neither.

Originally Posted by jakeroux

Yes here as well.