The **OFFICIAL** Denon AVR-XX12 Model Owner's Thread - Page 315

In my new 2312CI, I had the video mode in the input setup set to Auto which toggles between Game and Movie. I used to see inconsistent picture quality in Sharp 60" LED. I am mentioning the size of the TV because the bigger it is the more easily i see the difference of signal quality. some times pixel trails in fast moving scenes or if camera pans little too fast.

After reading the manual yesterday i set it to Movie(Normal) instead of Auto and the picture all of a sudden seems to be remarkably good. No more trails the color depth is perfect and so is the sharpness.

I don't have any games hooked up now and if i did i will change the video signal appropriately.

This was very annoying when it was in Auto as every day i switch on the receiver and the TV I had to bank on my luck to see how good the picture will be today. Switching off and unplugging power, nothing resolved this.

Bottom line Denon processors does not seem to recogonize video signals consistently and render output accordingly.

Audio is awesome, perfect.....

Experts please correct me if i am wrong...You guys are awesome and very helpfull.

I also prefer multichannel stereo and use Dolby only when I watch a movie with lots of sound effects with Tv. It lets me hear the dialogue a lot better without having to turn up the volume although my seating position is nearly 20ft. from my front and center speakers.

This setting would reduce the split boom level correct?
I need a way to keep audyssey eq, keep dynamic vol on light, and roll off/reduce bass for those loud explosions.

Thank you, I'll give that a shot.

However, you statement about multichannel stereo differs from my experience. If turn my surround speakers completely off it still sounds better than DD; it actually seems to change the sound coming from the center channel (seems to be less bass). Does this make any sense?

I spoke with the owner of Accessories4Less this morning. He indicated that as of a month ago, Denon has now changed their policy on how returns are handled and that going forward Denon would handle the returns of refurb units directly. Denon indicated that as many as 80% of "defective" units being returned to them actually had no issues whatsoever and they want to get more involved with troubleshooting with the customer before the unit is returned. So this is an instance where "don't shoot the messenger" applies. Otherwise, Accessories4Less has a great customer service reputation.

Yes .. in DD 5.1 the center is getting a dedicated "center channel" signal while in multi channel stereo mode it's getting a mix of the FL/FR speakers channels.

What's wrong with just using either "EVENING" or "MIDNIGHT" and/or setting the Reference Level Offset to 10db or 15db?

I can notice a decrease in sound quality - most apparently in the front sound stage. I prefer to use Dyn Vol on OFF/Light.

The issue isnt loudness, it's "Bass". My towers dont go very low (30hz), but when I run them on full, the wood floors vibrate into the next apartment. I've even isolated the towers with 2" open-cell rubber underneath.

If I can keep the Dyn Volume the same, but "ONLY" reduce the "bass" or LPF affects a little - it would do wonders for my setup.

In the pass, I've simply set my Onkyo 607 EQ to -2 on "Bass" which rolls off the lower end while maintaining Dyn EQ.

Anyone here is having issue with buying refurb unit? The 3312 refurb can be had for equal or less than the 2312 new and is $200 less than the 3312 new, but only with 3 months warranty instead of 3yrs. My credit card would add an additional yr warranty for a new unit but i dont know if it would be the same for the refurb with 3 months warranty. I am trying to see if saving $$$ on the refurb worth the hassle by loosing 33 months if warranty. Thanks.

I just see that accessories4less has 1 yr warranty instead if 90days from ecost but also cost $100 more.
Question about the quick selects. I am currently only using 1 source (WDTV live plus media streamer) connected to my 2312 and watch TV occasionally with the 2312 on. Is there any beneficial for me setting it up with one if those 4 quick selects? Thanks.

Your credit card will likely only double the mfr warranty up to 1 year so with a 3 month warranty, you'd only get another 3 months for a total of 6 months. That said if you purchase from Accessories4Less you'll get a full 1 year warranty which would be doubled to 2 years total.

Thanks. Does not look like i need to use them in my case.

I just sent back a new onkyo rc-360 due to a failing hdmi board out of the box . I didn't want to take another chance with a company with a less than stellar reliability track record so I went with a 1712 instead. One seemingly useless feature that the onkyo had was 4k upscaling. I realize 1. We are years away from 4k media 2. 4k tvs will be able to upscale lower sources,... but will the 1712 be able to pass a 4k signal? I know it will pass 3d, but it would kind of suck if in 4 or however many years I would have to either bypass the receiver or buy a new one just to get a 4k signal to my (hypothetical) 4k tv, I realize it seems a ways off, but so did having to buy a receiver with hdmi processing a few years back. So anyways, does anybody know if a 4k signal will pass through the denons?

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We likely won't know the answer until someone actually tries to pass a 4K signal.

I figured that would be the answer, I was just wondering if someone knew from some spec sheet somewhere that it would pass through. My gut instinct/wishfull thinking tells me it would but.......

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give that man a cigar... well put...

Wow, 20' from the speakers!

How far are your from the screen, and how big is it?

Sounds like you're trying to fill an auditorium, not a living room!

Thank you! I dont have a subwoofer. I dont under stand option #1 but i'll try them out.

I understand what your saying, but it is difficult to replace an otherwise adequate receiver for something like that, especially if there are units out that support it, that is all. I am always on a budget just like everyone else and I realize this is an expensive hobby, I was just wondering. I guess I could always get a 4k capable hdmi splitter or something like that. Or a 4k blu ray player with dual hdmi. Who knows, I am sure there will be workarounds, but I am curious in the coming years to hear what happens when trying to pass a 4k signal. Thanks

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as 4k display devices priced at a "consumer level" won't be available anytime soon (and 4k sources likely to be very few), it's really a misplaced worry...

also, as batpig noted, unless you have a big screen* and sit within 1 screen width or so, there is no benefit to the technology...

want to keep up with technology? be prepared to pay for it... that's life...

* 100" or more... flat panels need not apply...

I have a problem with my avr-1712. When I switch between inputs, the sound level goes to -12. I tried the volume control -> power on level, set it to -40. It works, when I press power the volume is -40, but as soon as I switch to any other source, the sound goes to -12. I've read the owner's manuel, didn't read this whole thread. I did search, found nothing. Maybe it's the way the amp is made ?

Correct it's the way the amp is made. The volume will turn on what you selected for power on level, but will follow what volume you set for that particular input when you change to other inputs.

There is a Source Level you can use in the Input Setup that can help level out volumes per input. I believe all models have this option.

if you are changing source using quick select then the volume will reset to what is stored in that quick select, if you dont want the volume to change then use select source button and from there select ur source this way the volumes will not change just the source will change

My Room is 16' or 18' wide I can't remember and 22' long which is largeish but not really large enough with a door swinging into the living room, windows, a fire place, computer station a separate tv for the Wii and the rest of the furniture I had to set the 46'' Lcd on top of my Cerwin Vega CC in front of my main window for best results with consideral opposition from the wifey who thought I was nuts and still does but really was the only way to get the wides to work for me. The wides are still set on the front wall instead of in front of the fronts, which is not the best but we all have to work with what we have.

Long answer short we all probably wish we had an extra ft. or two to make our system fit the way we like.