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post #1171 of 1955
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

^^
1. Change the "i/P Scaler" setting from "Analog" to "Analog & HDMI" (p. 95) although compare it to whether the Dish box or the TV itself can do a better job or not.
2. Yup, fairly easy to drive based on specs.

Thanks for your quick response and contributions to this thread.
post #1172 of 1955
I hate to do it but one more for ya...

So I have only HDMI connections. Dish 722 to receiver to panny gt50 (using hdmi 2 for ARC). If I turn the AVR off, passthru works and vid/audio plays on the display correctly. If the receiver is turned back on audio stays on the tv, how can I get it back to the AVR. I imagine running digital coax/toslink from the 722 would fix the conflict?
post #1173 of 1955
Change the "HDMI Audio Out" setting (p. 109) back to "Amp" and leave it there.
post #1174 of 1955
Just bought a brand new home theater system including a oppo 93, marantz sr6006 and aperion speakers. Two Verus Forte L&R, Verus Forte Center, and two Intimus 4b satellites with a bravus IIa 8d sub. I also have a Hd Dvd player/Xbox 360/PS3 and Satellite to hook up with all hdmi. My question to anyone willing to tackle this is what would your recommended settings be for the marantz with all of this in mind. My TV is also a Samsung PND8000 in case that matters. Thank you so much for your help. If you need any more info I will be willing to provide.

Edit: I should add that I am a complete newbie to "real" home theater and a "real" receiver. That is why I am asking about the marantz specifically. My previous HT was the Sony bdv-e780w rolleyes.gif
post #1175 of 1955
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Originally Posted by jmhilden View Post

My question to anyone willing to tackle this is what would your recommended settings be for the marantz with all of this in mind.

 

Since the Marantz models are Denon clones I'd recommend reading the first several posts in this thread: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread

post #1176 of 1955
And I always thought that Denon was a Marantz clone. Go figure. smile.gif
post #1177 of 1955
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Originally Posted by jmhilden View Post

Just bought a brand new home theater system including a oppo 93, marantz sr6006 and aperion speakers. Two Verus Forte L&R, Verus Forte Center, and two Intimus 4b satellites with a bravus IIa 8d sub. I also have a Hd Dvd player/Xbox 360/PS3 and Satellite to hook up with all hdmi. My question to anyone willing to tackle this is what would your recommended settings be for the marantz with all of this in mind. My TV is also a Samsung PND8000 in case that matters. Thank you so much for your help. If you need any more info I will be willing to provide.
Edit: I should add that I am a complete newbie to "real" home theater and a "real" receiver. That is why I am asking about the marantz specifically. My previous HT was the Sony bdv-e780w rolleyes.gif

Unlike settings on a new HDTV, the AVR should be much simpler to set up as there aren't that many settings to adjust (most don't really matter). Follow the Audyssey process to setup the speakers (read through the Audyssey 101 Guide linked in my sig) and for SD/stereo channels use "DD PLII - Movie" and for DD/DTS 5.1 signals just use those same surround modes (ie. DD/DTS 5.1). The 6006 is a clone of the 3312CI so review the Denon AVR FAQ Guide linked in my sig as well.
post #1178 of 1955
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Originally Posted by drusierdmd View Post

I hate to do it but one more for ya...
So I have only HDMI connections. Dish 722 to receiver to panny gt50 (using hdmi 2 for ARC). If I turn the AVR off, passthru works and vid/audio plays on the display correctly. If the receiver is turned back on audio stays on the tv, how can I get it back to the AVR. I imagine running digital coax/toslink from the 722 would fix the conflict?

What is confusing is I have the avr hdmi audio out set to "amp". It appears I have to turn on my devices in the correct sequence.

Here is how I want it to work: I have AVR and TV on and audio is being played thru the AVR. I turn off the AVR and sound should now be played via the tv. I now turn on the AVR and audio should be played thru it. Basically set the avr is primary when it is on or have hdmi audio play on both sources always. Anyways, not complaining, I just dont fully understand things yet. More reading to do smile.gif
post #1179 of 1955
Note that HDMI connections can often be finicky. It may help setting HDMI-CEC on the TV to OFF (ie. you may have to decide which is the more important feature ... ARC or HDMI Standby pass through).
post #1180 of 1955
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Originally Posted by drusierdmd View Post

What is confusing is I have the avr hdmi audio out set to "amp". It appears I have to turn on my devices in the correct sequence.

Here is how I want it to work: I have AVR and TV on and audio is being played thru the AVR. I turn off the AVR and sound should now be played via the tv. I now turn on the AVR and audio should be played thru it. Basically set the avr is primary when it is on or have hdmi audio play on both sources always. Anyways, not complaining, I just dont fully understand things yet. More reading to do smile.gif

What's missing for me is what it is you're expecting your system to do. I'm guessing you're wanting to do what I did, have both sets of speakers (TV/5.1) independent yet operational.

FWIW, I have the SR5007 set up so both (TV and AVR) play audio at the same time and neither cares what the other is doing. If you want to hear the very tinny TV speakers, crank the TV volume and if you want to hear the home theater speakers, crank the volume on the SR5007 and by turning the volume up on each, you can simultaneously listen to both. I was able to do this by running an optical cable from the cable box optical out to the SR5007 optical in and reassigning the first HDMI in, to optical. This allows for the use of the SR5007 DAC for 5.1 conversion of the cable box digital audio feed. The HDMI out connection from the cable box is attached to the television; HDMI 1 in. The SR5007's HDMI out is connected to the HDMI 2 in on the television so ARC is not active but now the user can see the Marantz GUI when needed by simply changing source on the television to HDMI 2.

Set up this way, the AVR can be unplugged and the television speakers are still going work. If the cable box is unplugged, any appliances attached to the AVR will have their sound automatically converted and passed to the 5.1 system via the chosen AVR source selector and their accompanying video feed will be sent to the television and displayed when the television is set to HDMI 2 in.

Am I understanding what it is you're trying to do via my example or did I simply spin out, crash, burn and totally misunderstand what it is you're trying to communicate?

confused.gif

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Edited by BeeMan458 - 7/13/12 at 2:34pm
post #1181 of 1955
Hello AVS world. I just received my 6006 yesterday and have stumbled upon an issue I cannot for the life of me figure out.
What I'm trying to do: Connect a fiber optical cable from my computer in one room to the 6006 in another room for 2.1 audio playback. Been doing this with my old receiver for years without issue.
The Problem: I chose AUX2 as the input to use, plugged the cable into OPT1 and assigned OPT1 to AUX2 with decode mode and input mode both set to auto. I'm getting no sound with this setup and yes I have AUX2 selected as the source.
I'm feeling like a dummy. Prove me right/wrong :-)
post #1182 of 1955
Stating the obvious when I post, are the speaker cables correctly hooked up and have you turned the volume up?

The reason I ask, our cables like to pull out of the back of the receiver when moving the receiver around (new banana plugs are on order) and not paying attention to polarity, had changed the polarity on the cables when changing to different tips. D'oh! I did catch this error upon the standard, prior to power-up, visual system check. Also, I had forgotten to turn the volume up as a reason no sound was coming through the speakers. In this case, it was I who was getting all the dummy awards. tongue.gif

It sounds like you have your unit configured correctly as what you described is how I configured our receiver to accept optical input. If I might, a question regarding the computer, do you have the sound card configured to the optical digital out? IIRC, our soundcard requires this sort of reassignment configuring (optical or coax) if I want to use a separate headphone DAC. And do you have the sound volume on the computer turned all all the way up? I'm sure you know this, as all soundcard volume sliders should be set to max and let the receiver attenuate speaker volume.

Have you checked for dust in the ports or the ends of the optical cable? Did either end of the optical plug pull out of either the soundcard or the back of the receiver? Do you have a sharp kink in the optical cable as it sounds like you have a long run?

Hope the above ramblings helps give you ideas.

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post #1183 of 1955
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Originally Posted by Tighe View Post

Hello AVS world. I just received my 6006 yesterday and have stumbled upon an issue I cannot for the life of me figure out.
What I'm trying to do: Connect a fiber optical cable from my computer in one room to the 6006 in another room for 2.1 audio playback. Been doing this with my old receiver for years without issue.
The Problem: I chose AUX2 as the input to use, plugged the cable into OPT1 and assigned OPT1 to AUX2 with decode mode and input mode both set to auto. I'm getting no sound with this setup and yes I have AUX2 selected as the source.
I'm feeling like a dummy. Prove me right/wrong :-)

AUX2 defaults to HDMI6 so also set HDMI6 to "None" if not being used.
post #1184 of 1955
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

AUX2 defaults to HDMI6 so also set HDMI6 to "None" if not being used.

Thanks for your quick replies. BeeMan, yes I'm absolutely certain all settings on my computer are correct. I also know the computer is sending the audio signal and has all good connections due to the fact the receiver end of the optical cable is glowing red. Nothing at all has changed in my setup/configuration except for the new 6006 receiver. The audio/video works fine through the 6006 from all other sources, bdp-93, internet radio, ipod.
Mr. Smoothie, the only thing I have "turned on" for AUX2 is optical1, all other digital and analog options and turned to "off". I thought maybe the optical jack on the receiver was bad so I also chose source "CD" and assigned OPT2 to it. Then swapped the cable to OPT2 with CD as the source and still no audio. I've done this in both the "initial setup" and "manual assign" areas of the menu. I'm stumped.
post #1185 of 1955
In our case, I plugged the optical cable into optical port 1, reassigned CBL/SAT as follows; HDMI (None), Digital (OPT 1), COMP (None), made sure the receiver was in CBL/SAT mode, turned up the volume and was good to go.

As of this post, all the above was just verified for accuracy by looking at our system settings.

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(Just a reminder, I'm using the GUI of a SR5007 as opposed to that of a SR6006. Also, I'm using the mains as opposed to a secondary location)

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Edited by BeeMan458 - 7/15/12 at 9:55am
post #1186 of 1955
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Originally Posted by Tighe View Post

Thanks for your quick replies. BeeMan, yes I'm absolutely certain all settings on my computer are correct. I also know the computer is sending the audio signal and has all good connections due to the fact the receiver end of the optical cable is glowing red. Nothing at all has changed in my setup/configuration except for the new 6006 receiver. The audio/video works fine through the 6006 from all other sources, bdp-93, internet radio, ipod.
Mr. Smoothie, the only thing I have "turned on" for AUX2 is optical1, all other digital and analog options and turned to "off". I thought maybe the optical jack on the receiver was bad so I also chose source "CD" and assigned OPT2 to it. Then swapped the cable to OPT2 with CD as the source and still no audio. I've done this in both the "initial setup" and "manual assign" areas of the menu. I'm stumped.

Try setting the INPUT MODE setting to "Digital" for the AUX2 input. Otherwise, you may want to reset the microprocessor (p. 150).
post #1187 of 1955
Can anyone tell me if this receiver will EQ both subwoofers independently or does it just set the sub levels and then mirror the settings ? I plan to run dual rythmik fv12's at different locations in the room and I am hoping that audessey XT will handle the subs seperately to balance bass response through the room. Input ?
post #1188 of 1955
^^^

no... it will not... it will treat them as one, as it's merely an internal y-splitter...

you would not want to "eq" your subwoofers "separately" in either case... you want to "eq" the summed response, as you are really eq'ing the room, not the subs...

what is advantageous is the ability to delay and level them independently... in order to do this, you would need an avr equipped with xt32 and (the unfortunately named) sub eq...
post #1189 of 1955
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^
no... it will not... it will treat them as one, as it's merely an internal y-splitter...
you would not want to "eq" your subwoofers "separately" in either case... you want to "eq" the summed response, as you are really eq'ing the room, not the subs...
what is advantageous is the ability to delay and level them independently... in order to do this, you would need an avr equipped with xt32 and (the unfortunately named) sub eq...

Hello,

Thanks for the response. So any receiver with audessey XT is only doing a y-split ? I was hoping for a receiver that does individual level and delay. However I thought XT also did this...
post #1190 of 1955
You need a receiver with Audyssey XT32 it will calibrate them independently and do level and delay. the Denon AVR 4311CI and Onkyo NR818 both use XT32.
post #1191 of 1955
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Originally Posted by jonathanc View Post

Hello,
Thanks for the response. So any receiver with audessey XT is only doing a y-split ? I was hoping for a receiver that does individual level and delay. However I thought XT also did this...

Correct. As Chris notes above, you'll want an AVR that includes "both" XT32 + Sub EQ HT. There are currently no Marantz models with XT32 although the new 8007 is likely to include it. The current Denon 4311CI features XT32 as well as the new 4520CI (Sep). Onkyo is the first mfr to feature XT32 w/o Sub EQ HT (818).
Edited by jdsmoothie - 7/16/12 at 1:44pm
post #1192 of 1955
BeeMan,
Yes I would like both the AVR and TV speakers to be on and independant of each other. As it stands now, I have to turn on the TV first (sound on tv speakers) then turn on the avr (sound on external speakers, tv speakers turn off). If I turn on the avr then the tv; only the tv speakers play. I may have this backwards but I remember it being counter-intuitive. Changing inputs/sources/surround modes has no effect. Basically, I wish the avr would process the hdmi audio and output it via its amps AND pass it to the tv. 99% of the time I would have the tv vol at 0 but occassionally (late night) I would like to turn the avr off or to 0 and use the tv sound. This setup is the Den, so this is not really a problem as I have a 54v10 in the bedroom with no avr.

I may try running digital audio out from my settop box to the tv directly. I don't think this will work as the input are not assignable on the tv. I believe on the new dish hopper all outputs are active. Thanks for suggesting your work-around but I dont want to switch tv inputs.

Either way, I am very happy with the receiver. I actually think the AVR doing the processing/scaling looks better than the panasonic gt50 doing it. DTS-MA track on IMAX 3d Blu-Ray was very impressive. The significant reduction in the cable nest behind my equipment is just a bonus.
post #1193 of 1955
Restating a solution to your dilemma that worked for me was to connect the optical out from the cable box to the AVR and reassign the cable/sat to optical 1.

I have the cable box HDMI out running to the TV's HDMI 1 in. I too think that all cable box outs are full time active.

Doing it this way, the TV and AVR sound output are independent of each other so one can have both on and each controlled separately via their own remote control. Or, one can turn one or the other off and have independent muting capacity. Doing it this way, you have a pseudo center channel via the TV speakers.

Allow me to encourage you despite your statement of not wanting to fuss with the wires in the back of the receiver.

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Edited by BeeMan458 - 7/16/12 at 2:06pm
post #1194 of 1955
Good morning,


I have finally fixed most of my trouble, by selling out Klipsch/ Dali speakrs, now running ONLY PSB Image T6, Imagine mini and Center.
DUAL SVS PC/PB12 NSD subs.

I am struggling in understanding this Audussey on my Marantz SR 5006 ;-((


I was listening to Elton John SACD - Goodbye Yellow Brick road -- UNCALIBR Audussey, just som tuning with my ears,
pretty amazing sound, perhapse a bit hevy on the LFE.

Then I did this mic /Audussey calibra. Afterwards I put the Armageddon Bluray into my Sony BDP-790.

What a difference!! But maybe not quite what I was hoping for --


a) The volume was indeed on the lows
the audio adjust -> Dynamic volum was OFF.
Correct -- or should I put it on Medium ??

b) On Armageddon the center chanel was too low, is it like this in this movie- or will it be more normal when Dynamic volume is Medium?
(Resulting in me turning up the volume, you know what happened --
my subwoofers suddenly got a large energy and blew of both me and my neighbors china ....)

c) The I played some easy listenin off Spotify.

Hmm, the sound is heaver on the left side.
When I adjusted it manually, I got the stero sound very much in the middle,

should I re run the Audussey?

d) Please explain to me in simple english the terms "Dynamic EQ" "Reference Ofset" and this "Dynamic volume"...

e) These I simply do not understand

Audio setup;
-- 7.1CH IN SW Lev. --(0 to 10 dB) -- ???
- EQ Customize ??
post #1195 of 1955
To better understand Audyssey and it's related features, review the Audyssey 101/FAQ linked in my sig.
post #1196 of 1955
Does anyone have suggestions or comments?

Thanks,
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Originally Posted by Kabillyhop View Post

I am experiencing a problem with my SR5006 and wondering if it's a problem with my unit or a firmware issue affecting all units.
I have set up a media server that I access through net/USB. This works wonderfully when it works, and I am well on my way to transferring all our CD's to the server as FLAC files. Here is the problem - if I return after not using the unit for a while the net/USB GUI will be gone. I know the network is still connected because if I press the internet radio button I get music, however I can't get to the server because there is no GUI. I also can't get to the server with web control. The only way to get the GUI back is to power the 5006 off and back on (by unplugging it). Then it all works perfectly again, but that is a pain in the neck and I don't want the rest of the family to have to do it that way.
By the way, I also have an AV7005 in our theater room which does not have the problem.
Feels to me like a firmware issue. Is anyone else seeing this?
Thanks
post #1197 of 1955
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Try setting the INPUT MODE setting to "Digital" for the AUX2 input. Otherwise, you may want to reset the microprocessor (p. 150).

I've tried that first part with no dice and actually don't believe the second part is the issue and here's why. I dug out an old cd player I had laying around and connected it to OPT1 on the 6006. Guess what, the audio works fine. I then connected it to OPT2, switched source and the audio works fine on that jack as well. So I now know both OPT jacks on the receiver are working.
This prompted me to disconnect all cabling (four 12' cables with three couplers) between my computer and 6006 and moved the computer next to the 6006. I then connected the two devices using each individual cable and all four worked fine. Any combination of three cables together still works fine. You may see where I'm going with this....once I add the fourth cable I received no sound. So a 36' length of cable works but not 48'. 48' worked fine with my old receiver so I assume the electronics for the optical connection in the 6006 are weaker in terms of long distance runs then my old receiver. I knew hdmi had such issues but optical? Is there such a thing as an inline optical amplifier? Is there a different conclusion to come to that I'm not seeing? Thank you.
post #1198 of 1955
Optical cable lengths are generally reliable to 20'-30' with longer distances possible depending on the devices connected. You may want to consider a single 50' cable from forum sponsor Monoprice --> http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10229&cs_id=1022904&p_id=2767&seq=1&format=2
post #1199 of 1955
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Originally Posted by SethKo View Post

Fios not working on hdmi pass through with sr5006.

I was able to get my bluray to do passthrough, but when I set the hdmi control to on with fios I lose the picture and it's just a black screen. Called marantz, they said it is not their problem- talk to Verizon. Verizon had no insight. So had anyone tried their newest DVD box- the black one that they call the storage expander. You can get it supposedly for $40 as an upgrade over your current fios box. Thinking about trying it, but wanted to know if anyone was successful getting hdmi passthrough with it.

Thanks

Hi SethKo, I have same HDMI passthrough problem with FIOS DVR. When receiver is on standby, I turn on FIOS dvr and TV, I will see 5 seconds of picture on tv, then picture disappear. I am pretty certain it's HDMI handshake issue, anyone has a solution on this problem?

I will face serious marital problems if I don't get this fix soon redface.gif.
post #1200 of 1955
^^
Try setting the HDMI-CEC feature (eg. Anynet+, VieraLink, BraviaSync, etc.) on the TV to OFF.
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