Marantz SR5006 / Marantz SR6006 Receiver Thread - Page 56

This is probably a stupid question, but bare with me as this is still all new to me. Just picked up a SR5006 and I wanted to know if I can hook up a turntable to it? Should there be a "phono" input? Also, other than video upscaling, are there any other upgrades/features in the Denon 3312ci not on the SR5006? I don't see anything else. There are so many knowledgeable people on here (ie jdsmoothie) I appreciate the help offered by many on here.

Had to take my SR6006 in for service on January 7th. It was ready for pickup on the 17th. Not too bad until you factor in the fact that the service facility ordered the replacement part on the 8th and didn't receive it until the 16th. At least D&M did overnight a good part after the first part was discovered to be defective. At least the service facility is less than 10 miles away and they seem to turn things around rapidly.

D&M seems to be trying to save money any way they can and it is having a very negative effect on Customers.

There were two problems with my 6006.

After several hours of operation I would get a Green Screen when selecting NET/USB. This could be cured with a processor reset, but reappeared after a few hours. I suspect that the replacement of the Network/HDMI Board that was performed will solve this problem. Only time will tell for sure.

The other problem was that HDMI Control and Audio Return Channel stopped working after I installed the latest firmware. Prior to this my Panasonic E50 would turn on the 6006 when the TV was turned on and turn off the 6006 when the TV was turned off. As long as the 6006 was on, the TV remote controlled volume and mute on the 6006.

There is a USB port and an RS232 port on the 6006, but no published way for a Consumer to back level the Firmware. Even if the procedure were published there is no way for a consumer to,get at the firmware on the Marantz web site.

If D&M wants to save money and improve Customer Service an easy way to back level firm ware would do it.

Sorry, but no, although it is possible if you either (1) connect the DTV HDMI cable directly to your TV or (2) also connect a component video cable from the DTV box to the AVR.

The 5006 does not have a dedicated Phono input (as do both the 6006 and 3312CI) so either the turntable needs its own pre-amp or you must purchase a 3rd party pre-amp ($50-$100) in order to connect the turntable to any of the regular analog audio inputs. The 5006 is more in line with the 2112CI and 2312CI while the 6006 is in line with the 3312CI so yes, there are a number of additional features provided on the 3312CI/6006 over the 5006.

well I have read almost this entire thread as several weeks of research are coming soon to an end and a purchase will be made. Looking at the 5006, 6006, 5007, 6007. Not sure if the olders models are priced lower or better discount off of msrp? I am going to see my dealer here in town where I bought my Def Tech speakers. He is an authorized Marantz dealer. Also have been looking at the Denon 2113, 2313. Since these companies are related, do they use the same amplification hardware? Previous posts in this thread have stated they like how the Marantz makes their speakers sound. Anyway thanks all!

I'm going on Saturday to check out the 5006.

looks like I might actually buy an used Denon 3312 instead...

Hello everyone,
As someone mentioned earlier best buy had the 5006 on sale for $399 so I grabbed one. I also picked up an Onkyo ht-rc460 for $275. I'm too lazy to hook them both up nor do I possess an audiophiles ears to pick up the differences. Is one or the other vastly superior or worth the additional $125?

Second, unrelated question. Does bi-amping basically double the wattage a speaker receives, (ie receiver sends out 80w per channel so the bi-amped speaker would get 160w)?

Thanks for any help.

1. 5006 uses Audyssey MultEQ XT while the 460 uses the lowest version of Audyssey 2EQ which in addition to having 16x fewer speaker control points than MultEQ XT, also cannot EQ a subwoofer. So yes, the 5006 is worth the extra $$.

2. No, there is no doubling of power, in fact if anything, you are reducing the headroom to the other speakers. This features adds no real benefit. If you feel your speakers need more power, get an external amp (200W+, eg. Emotiva XPA-2 or XPA-3)..

Hello, I picked up a 5006 for A4L and just hooked it up this morning. I am not getting a signal to my sub woofer at all. I have tried everything, different cables, different settings, even hooked my sub back up to my original AVR to ensure it works and still nothing. My sub is an Outlaw LFM-1EX.

Can anyone help me please........ I want to make sure I have tried everything before sending the unit back.

Thank you!

Are your speakers set to SMALL, if not then set them to small.

Thank you very much for the information. My mains are rated at 150w continous/600w peak. Is the 5006 a good fit?

Yup.

Suggest reviewing the Audyssey 101/FAQ Guide linked in my sig. As Theresa notes, after running Audyssey, your FL/FR speakers should be reset to SMALL/80Hz which will then pass the lower frequencies directly to the sub.

I currently have my 6006 setup as a stereo system with two large speakers (powered by external amps). I'm thinking of adding surround sound for movie watching, but I'm on a budget. I am wondering if it would sound terrible to get the energy rc-micro 5.1 system, use the mains I currently have for l&r, and possibly using the extra two satellites for 7.1. Anyone have a similar setup? I want to keep my front speaker setup for music. I've read a lot about matching speakers, but is it really that big of a deal? I want "good enough" surround sound. Thanks!

I have a problem here with iPod and SR6006

Out of the box my iPod 5 30GB worked gr88 with SR 6006.

After two days I tried putting my iPod to Direct Mode(Access from iPod directly and not Marantz OSD). I then realised that most AVR's does not support iPod 5 on Direct Mode. Since then my iPod 5 is not working properly with 6006. It plays songs but it pauses, skips & resumes numerously during playback.

I have done a hard restore on my iPod but no luck, Also reset 6006 but again no luck. However my iPod 2G 2Gb works like charm on 6006.

Any help will be highly appreciated.

I'm afraid you'll have to try them to find out. If you get speakers from a local A/V store, they might be willing to let you borrow a center speaker to try.

It's always best to get a center speaker which is as similar as possible to at least the upper-range drivers in your main front speakers. The center channel is used for most vocals. It can be quite disconcerting to hear someone's voice change as they go from one side of the soundstage to the other.

That written, Audyssey does try to flatten (make more accurate) the response of all of the speakers, so it does significantly reduce the audible differences between different types of speakers.

I have a 5006 and just yesterday I noticed 1 of my rear speakers wasn't working. After messing around for 20 minutes I believe the problem is the red and black adapters where you connect the speaker wire to the receiver and then screw it tight. Is there anything I can do about this that I'm not aware of to maybe fix the problem? Or will I have to send in for repair??

Joe,

If it is a problem in the receiver's binding posts (the red/black adapters) then, yes, you probably need to send it in for repair. An internal connection might have broken loose.

All:

Good day. I just purchased a SR6006 from AC4L to replace a bad Arcam AVR300 receiver. I hooked it up Sunday and ran the Audessey before the kids got up from naps.

So here is my question since I'm not sure if I'm experiencing something wierd or not (I've been reading all primers on Audessey, FAQ's, etc...).

When I listen to TV/Movies with the Audessey on, but the dynamic volume off, the volume out of my center channel sounds low. To the point where it sounds like the center isn't balanced with the rest of my speakers.

Now, when I flip Audessey Volume on the center channel instantly kicks up and I ear the dialogue as clear as with my old Arcam. It's not like I can't hear anything out of the center with it off... it's just really quite so I have to turn up the volume a lot (and of course the rest of the system is really cranking).

I've been thinking of re-runnign Audessey since my Center is registering at 0 but all other speakers have been adjusted. I'm not sure if this will correct it of if I should just pull out the old SPL meter and check them manually first.

I guess I'm unsure if i should notice such a decreased volume out of the center channel with it off and then a major gain with it turned on. I always run it in "light" mode...

Coming from a receiver that didn't have any room correction I'm wondering if I'm just experiencing what the studio's wanted by hearing good dynamic volume going on around me.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions/comments.

Jerry

Depends on what sources you are listening to as with TV and music sources, with no reference level defined, the use of Dyn EQ (which boosts the bass and surround channel audio) will tend to drown out the center channel dialog, so for these sources especially, you can reduce the impact of Dyn EQ by setting the Reference Level Offset to 10 or 15. You can also simply bump up the center channel volume as well. Also ensure that you have the center speaker pulled out to the edge of the shelf it's sitting on (if inside a cabinet space) and aimed up towards the main listening position ear height. The purpose of Dyn Vol is to normalize the audio to a specific level depending on the setting used (ie. raise the soft dialogue and reduce the impact of loud explosions).

Just received and set up a factory refurb from an authorized dealer last week. I think the center channel may be dead. I've pretty much gone through every setting I can find to no avail. I'm also fairly sure it worked originally on the first setup then I may have downloaded an update and lost it. Couple of things:

1. when I run Audessy it seems to recognize that there is a center speaker but there is no sound emitted from it. It says yes or whatever it says after passing around the speaker vs. error or no speaker etc.

2. I saw setting in the manual (not in front of me right now), something C.IMAGE where you can assign the center channel to the left and right surrounds. However I am not seeing that in the Surround Parameter settings.

3. Speakers fine checked it. Rand a 5.1 surround DD check via USB stick, still no sound. The built in test tones also don't work on it.

I just read an issue about the terminals in an earlier post, I'm going to get a couple banana plugs and see if that might help. Not really convinced that something is "blown" internally rather I am missing something obvious. I did a reset via the on/standby thing, no luck.

I'm going to remove everything from it and just leave it wired to the speakers in the hopes that something else is the cause. Failing all that is there a way to assign the center channel elsewhere if it is an internal problem or a terminal problem? I am running 5.1 only.

Any ideas where to look or what to set reset etc. etc. most welcome.

Thanks.

If you have confirmed the center speaker is not defective and the microprocessor reset produces no results, then time to return it. Also note that settings will be greyed out if the selected surround mode doesn't apply.

I'm reading this:

"How this works is that if you have front channel Speakers that have separate speaker connections for the midrange/tweeters and the woofers (I am not referring to the subwoofer, but the woofers in your front speakers), you can reassign the amplifiers running the 6th and 7th channels to your front channels. Then enables you to retain a full 5.1 channel setup, but still add two additional channels of amplification to your front left and right speakers"

My idea is that if indeed the actual center channel in the receiver is busted, is the above "bi-amping"? And is it a totally separate set of channels or amps from the original center channel, so that if that is broken, this will work?

I'm not yet ready to run out to the service center which is miles away and need a solution asap. most DD tv channels are unbearable to listen to and have to switch to multi-stereo for now.

just missed your post. do you mean that there would be an indicator confirming that the channel itself is broken? What would be greyed out?

Right. That quote is describing "passive" bi-amping -- one channel drives the upper frequency speaker drivers and the other drives the power-hungry woofer. With modern solid-state receivers and amps it provides no improvement in audio quality whatsoever. It's just a feature that's cheap to provide and caters to people who have memories of needing to doing it when using limited-bandwidth, low-powered tube amps. For them, bi-amping was a necessity. Tube amps have many limitations that must be taken into consideration, but many people still like to use them.

Bi-amping cannot do anything for a dead center channel.

However, many people do enjoy listening to systems which have no physical center speaker. If you explicitly disable the center channel in the receiver, it'll redirect the audio from the front center channel to the front right and left speakers. Also, if you disconnect the cables running to the center speaker, Audyssey will notice that there's no speaker in your configuration and will configure the redirection itself. This is called having a "phantom" center speaker.

If the output to the center speaker failed after you ran Audyssey, then you'll get the problem you've noticed, with that channel's audio being completely lost.

aha! so if I am watching a 5.1 tv show / channel and disable center channel completely and unplug it all, it will automatically redirect the voice to the surrounds? This is fantastic. Impossible right now to watch anything other than in multi-stereo.

I did see such a setting in the manual under surround parameters c.image which would assign the center to the surrounds for wider experience or something, but that actual setting was not visible in the surround parameter settings when I pulled them up.

I will check once I am back at the system, but again, switching off center or unplugging the speakers will auto redirect 5.1 voice to the surrounds and make everything functional again??

Little to excited I think, re-reading what you wrote:

1. You can eliminate the physical center speaker and the system will redirect the center sound to the surrounds

2. however if Audyssey failed on the center speaker regardless of the configuration, 1. above will also fail?

Meaning nothing will work unless it gets fixed? Audyssey is the test for working channels no matter what you do? I read a previous post where someone had issues with the actual speaker posts, so if in my case it is something like that (a connection to it inside) and not the processor itself, 1. above should still work?

SUCCESS!!

Selden you're a life saver!!

Had someone do exactly that back home , switched off the center channel, ran the USB 5.1 sound file SUCCESS, front left speaker...center speaker loud and clear through both fronts,...front right speaker.

Man, I cannot tell you what a relief! Been in a panic the past couple days.

Thanks again.

So what clue do you think that is, that it works but not via the actual center speaker itself (I tested it and its fine?)

Unfortunately, your symptoms are consistent with something being busted in the receiver, although it could be a wiring problem. Just for testing, you might try swapping the center channel and one of the front speakers connections at the receiver to find out if the audio that's supposed to be coming out of the center-channel speaker can be heard from the front speaker. If it can be heard from the front speaker, I'd suspect the wiring. If it can't, then arrange to get the receiver replaced.

A working center speaker helps to "anchor" the sounds to the TV for people who are sitting off to the side. It can be disconcerting to hear sounds coming from the nearest front speaker when they should be coming from the direction of the TV.