Marantz SR5006 / Marantz SR6006 Receiver Thread - Page 14

Yes, plenty of power, as long as it meets all of your feature/input/output needs.

That's very likely, still I thought I'd share my findings because pretty much all the vendor/reviews web sites I saw all mention the SR5006 upconverts analog video signals up to 1080p, which is completely false, unless they simply mean it converts it to HDMI (but the 1080p part is still false). Just one example :Crutchfield(in the "connections" section)

Are anyone able to run a computer signal, 0-255 RGB, successfully through the SR5006?

Apparently many receivers allow separate trims and distances set for two subwoofers - which means there is such a thing as 7.2. Additionally, some implementation of MultEQ XT will set the level/distance of two subs individually.

However, reviewing the manual for the 5006, it appears it does not have these individual sub settings. Which makes it correct that Marantz markets it as a 7.1 amp (even though it has 2 sub pre outs).

FYI - I've also researched this for the Onkyo 709, and in that case the manual actually states "the same signal is output from each jack" (referring to the two sub outs).

Therefore, in the context of these two receivers, your're correct that no "real" 7.2 - just an internal splitter.

I'm actually having a hard time deciding between the Onkyo TX-NR709 and the Marantz SR5006. Has anyone compared these two?

Paul

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Actually, many receivers don't allow individual sub distance/trim settings and the only Audyssey that can EQ dual subs is the highest level XT32 which is only found on upper level AVRs (eg. Denon 4311CI, Onkyo 3009/5009). The point I was trying to make was that virtually all lower/mid level AVRs that market as 7.2 just use an internal "Y" splitter.

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yup... a grand total of maybe 2 or 3 avrs... hardly "many"...

not only that, it's still technically .1, as they are eq'd together, and both "get" the same signal (i.e. they aren't discrete channels of information)...

iirc, there was one boutique unit that had two truly discrete sub outs... of course, there's a grand total of zero sources with 2 discrete lfe channels... the only way that this would be useful is if the mains were crossed to a pair of flanking subs...

For those of you with a 6006 could you please share how much you paid for it and where you got it...
Thank you!

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I thought the SR5006 had the ABT upscaling chip. Is this not true??

If it does not I may just decide to go with a more featured and powerful Onkyo and buy Apple TV separate. I listened to random mid range recievers on some B&W speakers and I swear the sound difference is so minimal that the argument is almost pointless.

You'd have to contact Marantz to be absolutely sure, but I just read the pages on the Marantz site for the 5006, 6006 and 7005 AVRs and only the last one makes mention of ABT. I would think if it was one each of them, it would say so.

Will the sr 5006 be strong enough to power a set of rf 52 II in a second zone

Klipsch Reference RF-52 II specs...:

handles 25-100 watts
sensitivity 96 dB
8-ohm impedance

Yeah, with room to spare.

True that, as another member replied, only the SR7005 specifically mentions the ABT chip, here's the quote from Marantz SR5006's page:


I don't know what they mean by that, but for me that was somewhat misleading. I decided it wasn't a big deal for me but I'm still dissapointed by this claim as it clearly does nothing at all, or so little that it's basically usless. It definately doesn't upscale/deinterlace any signal... so I don't know what this "convert" claim means.

Probably that it converts from an analogue to a digital video signal for output via HDMI. I love my Marantz DV6400 (long in tooth though it is) for SACD/DVD-A but its manual is woefully bad compared to a number of others I've read over the years. If the Marantz receiver manuals are like the one for my player, it is no wonder the meaning is garbled.

Yes, but they state that part of the conversion in the first sentence, they then specifically wrote "Additionally the SR5006 I/P converts signals for increased video performance".

So, what is this "increased video performance"? i haven't foudn an answer to that.

Perhaps it somehow increases performance without actually upscalling... my TV sure as hell sees the signal as 720p (for the STB example). So the Marantz outputs 720p to my TV set.

Hey friends, I'm just about to spring for the SR5006 and I have a couple of quick questions a search here and download of the manual didn't tell me.

1. The pre-outs for the left and right channel: These are for the Front Mains, correct? I believe this is so, but the Crutchfield site has it listed as pre-outs for Front Height and Left Height.

2. With no digital out to Zone 2, does this mean I cannot port out the television audio to Zone 2? This could be a problem for me as I want another zone for my kitchen area television wall speakers. If this won't work, that leaves option 3 (below) maybe. Also, technically - what is a digital source? Anything plugged into the HDMI's? If so, could I run analog audio from the satellite receiver or TV back into the 5006 and port that out to Zone 2?

3. Since I am only 5.1 in my main room, I could use the Front B speakers for another zone in that same kitchen but I read a post earlier in this thread that you cannot configure your Front A and Front B speakers differently. Is that correct? I will need to run the A's at full range and the B's with a crossover point since they will be small wall speakers.

Sorry for the bonehead questions. I have a fairly complex system currently although it is way outdated. I have an Outlaw 1050 with front pre-outs going to an IRD preamp, then out to a Marchand crossover, then Odyssey Stratos amps and finally into Ellis 1801b monitors and Sonic Craft SCC-300 subs/woofers... so 2 channel integration is pretty important to me. Some of you might be familiar with my brick and mortar manufacturers of choice for audio. I'm more savvy with 2 channel than HT which I'm a dunce at, so thanks for helping out.

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1. Correct. Front main FL/FR preouts (p. 13).
2. Correct. Also connect an RCA analog cable from the sources you want to pass to Zone 2.
3. Correct. Although with Audyssey MultEQ XT having far more sub filters than speaker filters, you'll want to set your front mains to SMALL with 80hz crossovers as well. Also note that the comparable Denon AVRs have seperate configuration settings for STEREO mode and Front B can be selected for STEREO only.

Thank you for the response!

I need my fronts to be full range. In that preamp out path, you will see (from my post) I am using separate woofer/subs for my 2 channel and they work in stereo. I am currently wired this way and it works perfectly. I do not use the SW-out jack(s).

Why do you recommend setting the fronts to small? I was planning to use the Audyssey FL & FR bypass but utilize it for the surrounds and setup the Fronts manually. Is this possible? I think I read it as a feature set.

Is it correct then that the receiver cannot have different settings for Front A & B speakers even if configured manually?

Ah, we are in deep now...

The Denon way of handling this is fine for my setup if the A & B speakers can be set up differently (unless the B 'STEREO' can only be full range).

The Marantz A/B implementation sucks.

It applies whatever setting you have on the A speakers to B. Moreover, if you feed 5.1/7.1 audio and switch to the B speakers, it will keep piping sound from the surrounds in the A room.

The Zone 2 implementation also has its issues (AirPlay Zone 1 highjacking and analog inputs only).

If I didn't specifically want Audyssey, I would have gone to Pioneer. But the reality is that none of them are perfect.

Yes .... my point was that in your current configuration, the AVR will not recognize the subs in your setup and therefore although you can use either Audyssey or FL/FR Bypass, you would not be able to take advantage of the most significant part of Audyssey (ie. the sub filters) as you would connecting the subs to the sub preout instead. With a sub or subs in the setup, the standard recommendation by Audyssey is to set the front mains to SMALL w/80hz crossovers. Also as noted Front A and Front B cannot be configured separately.


On the Denon comparable models (ie. "CI" models), although the Front A/B cannot be EQ'd separately, the speakers used for the STEREO mode can be setup as full range (w/ or w/o a sub) or with a crossover to the sub.

Wow, that's just not well thought out at all. It basically negates the use of either of those 'features'.

What's the difference between A & B then, really, except for the fact that they are different speakers.

Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying that. My subs should basically be considered woofers for my monitors. That's more accurate and they are very musical set up in 2 channel under the monitors in stereo. Having said that, I've been floored at how well they work as subs through my HT setup just configuring through the front channels at full range. If I'm missing anything, I don't know about it and that's OK with me.

So now I'm wondering whether Audyssey is worthless for my setup and whether it will still set up the surrounds optimally without the fronts and any subs in the picture.

If I set it up the way it's recommended, then I lose my woofers with my 2-channel listening and I'm not likely to go that route.

I don't mind losing the zone flexibility, but now wondering if this is the right receiver for me after all. I really just need the modern processing with the flexibility to configure it like I want ala my old defunct Outlaw 1050. The bells and whistles are secondary to me. I assume the 5005 has the same shortcomings?

Thanks again for helping me sort through this...

I just had a thought... what exactly does Audyssey set up with each individual speaker? If the receiver allows you to look at all the settings and go back after the fact and set up each speaker manually with the same settings, then I can start the procedure with my fronts and subs wired up just the way Audyssey intended, let it run, then go back and rewire my woofers into my fronts and reset everything manually using the Audyssey settings for the surrounds. It wouldn't be perfect but likely a lot closer than I could get by configuring them all manually from scratch...

Does this make any or NO sense?

Maybe I need to go study up on Audyssey... I might be totally out to lunch...

Hey guys,

Just wanted to share with all of you that I just ordered the 5006 from advantage audio in norman. It will be replacing a Yamaha 661. My stero is somewhat of a bunch of random things I have from car audio. Center is focal k2p, and the fronts are focal utopia w6. Might be getting the actual focal towers later(when budget permits).

no sense... when you use "manual", you are disabling audyssey, and are left with just the (crude) graphic eq...

Yep, I was pretty disappointed as well. If it wasn't for AirPlay, I would have returned it.

I actually just got a Roku XS, which I'll use mostly for playing MOG through a separate amp to my Stereo room.

I actually miss the simplicity of my old Panasonic SA-XR57 If it had Audyssey, it would still be my main rig.

No that won't work. You are going to need to add an amp to run the speakers (b) if they are supposed to be the subs. That way you can set them up as subs and run audyssey correctly. That will also make it easier on the Marantz to drive the other speakers.

Just to be clear .. there's still a benefit to using Audyssey in your current setup configuration, to include the front mains (ie. no reason to use FL/FR Bypass).

I think I'm getting it. So Audyssey isn't a one-time set-up but instead something that actively monitors? OK, I'm sorry... I need to bone up before posting anymore.

jdsmoothie, you are right. Especially since my audio preamp is downstream of the receiver for 2 channel listening... it won't be affected by the Audyssey settings anyway.

Thanks again for humoring a noob.