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What do I need to do to play and edit these videos!!

post #1 of 7
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First let me apologize as I know as a fact this topic has been posted before but I just can't find a cleacut answer, and I'm hoping to find one.

EDIT: I NOTICED HOW LONG THIS POST TURNED OUT TO BE. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO READ THE WHOLE THING, PLEASE JUST READ THE LAST PARAGRAPH, MY BASIC QUESTION IS THERE, THE REST IS MOSTLY BACK STORY AND WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD AND TRIED THUS FAR. THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME!

I have been scouring the world wide web for the last week and some change, reading post after post, and talking to anyone I can, and I either get conflicting answers, or ones I just simply don't understand being that I'm very new to the world of video and camcorders. Throughout my search, this forum seemed to keep popping up and seemed to be filled with the most knowledgable people on the subject that I could find, so I decided to post and give this a shot as I'm losing my mind trying to find an answer.

I recently bought a TM700, I want to be able to go on my computer, play and edit the videos I've recorded at the highest quality, and I just can't figure out how to do that.

Right now I'm using a Gateway laptop with a duo core 2 processor, and ghz in the low 2's. I can't even play the videos back on this computer. At first they skipped like crazy and were all choppy, this includes videos that were recorded in less than 1080/60p (with the 1080/60p option not selected, I told you, I'm new to this lol), than I read that downloading a K-Lite codec pack might help, so I did. Now the videos that are less than 1080/60p are playing back, but they are all in slow motion! and the 1080/60p are in slow motion and are still unwatchably choppy.

I decided that I needed a new computer! I began looking into this and began getting specs like, i7 quad core, 3.2 plus ghz, at least 6gb of RAM, 1 tb internal hardrive, and a good video card, and I was okay with this and found one that exceeded these specs for $999 and I decided I was going to buy it.

Now, when I went to the store, the guy working there seemed very knowledgable, and he told me that though he recommended an i7, that the 1080/60p videos would play back and could be edited on and i5, or even an i3! He went as far as saying that he edited 1080/60p videos on a laptop with a duo core 2 processor, with additional specs similiar to the one I have! This got me incredibly confused because it kind of sounded like he was saying I should be able to view and edit these videos on my current laptop, but everything else I've been reading and experienced so far, has indicated that I cannot. This raises the question, should I be able to play and edit these videos on my laptop?

In addition, since I still believe that the answer to my previous question is going to be a straight, no, if so, what do I need in a computer in order to play and edit these, beautiful yet incredibly frustrating, little yet not so little files? is an i7 quad core, 3.0 plus ghz processor, coupled with 8 gb of RAM and a 1 TB internal hd, with good nVidia graphics card good enough? If it is, is it necessary or would a lesser machine be able to shoulder the load keeping in mind that I'm not trying to be the next Michael Bay, instead I just want to take really clear videos of my family, vacations, and sporting events, and come home and edit them (playing with effects and other fancy stuff merely for my own ammusment), and than watch them on my HDTV, which I plan to hook my computer up to? Lastly, in this long winded rambeling post, if it's something entirely other than my computer (except for the fact that I'm an idiot when it comes to this stuff = )), please let me know!

I really hope someone can give me an answer. I guess to sum it up, my main question is, what do I need in a computer, in terms of specifications (cpu, gpu, etc..) in order for it to play and edit videos from my TM700 at the highest quality? Keeping it as simple and in as much leymans terms as possible as I am completely new to the world of camcorders and video. That's really all I want to be able to do.

Any and all advise will be greatly, greatly, greatly, appreciated!
post #2 of 7
I'm not going to quote your post as it's too long but you should first try Splash Lite as it is FREE to download and see if that plays the files.
I had to disable hardware acceleration but it plays the TM900 files just great.
http://mirillis.com/en/products/splash.html

If your PC needs to be updated remember that most editing programs are CPU intensive so don't just buy an old outdated laptop. Get one with the i7 Sandy Bridges CPU, it is very very fast! The old i7's are very slow compared.
For under a grand you will be getting an older CPU.

Try a few editing programs and see if you can edit them.
There are so many out there to try. I have a fully loaded Sager laptop and it's FAST but I couldn't play the TM900 files at first as I needed a codec pack update which worked. Then later the files wouldn't play again. So I disabled ffdshow and everything was good again.

These are MTS files they aren't magic, they are a PITA tho. I prefer watching them on my HDTV with my PS3 which will not play the clips without crashing.
post #3 of 7
Thread Starter 
Thanks Steve.

That clearifies a lot I think. One thing that scared me a bit was seeing people saying that they had i7's and all of these other specs, and that it still wasn't working. So there's a chance they may have had an old i7, or were lacking a codec, or lacking a proper player, or a combo there of?

Would you say that a new model i7 is necessary in order to work with these files? or would an i5 work just as well? The booklet recommends an i7, but a few people have said i5's would be fine. Than again those same people still recommended i7's lol.

Is there a certain amount of ghz I should be looking for? The booklet says at least 2.8. Does that sound right?

How about RAM and internal memory? I was told 6gb of RAM would be fine, and I haven't heard a number for internal memory.

Is the video card important?

I just want to try to be certain that what I buy will be strong enough to handle what I want it to before I buy it. I also now know that proper codecs and video player also might be necessary.

I'm going to download that player to my laptop, though my laptops probably just too weak, its worth a shot.

Thanks for the help again!
post #4 of 7
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Originally Posted by TKx View Post
Thanks Steve.

That clearifies a lot I think. One thing that scared me a bit was seeing people saying that they had i7's and all of these other specs, and that it still wasn't working. So there's a chance they may have had an old i7, or were lacking a codec, or lacking a proper player, or a combo there of?

Would you say that a new model i7 is necessary in order to work with these files? or would an i5 work just as well? The booklet recommends an i7, but a few people have said i5's would be fine. Than again those same people still recommended i7's lol.

Is there a certain amount of ghz I should be looking for? The booklet says at least 2.8. Does that sound right?

How about RAM and internal memory? I was told 6gb of RAM would be fine, and I haven't heard a number for internal memory.

Is the video card important?

I just want to try to be certain that what I buy will be strong enough to handle what I want it to before I buy it. I also now know that proper codecs and video player also might be necessary.

I'm going to download that player to my laptop, though my laptops probably just too weak, its worth a shot.

Thanks for the help again!

Try Splash Lite first, see if it works, you might have to turn off acceleration, at least I did.
If you need to get a new Laptop I can help you out. I just bought a new one with Sandy Bridges and while mine is pretty decked out $2k+ I'm really happy with it.
I'm running Windows 7 64 bit and would never go back to 32 bit.
I still had to update my codecs for a brand new machine, so first try software and right click anywhere on your desktop that doesn't have an icon and go to Properties or in Windows 7 go to screen resolution and see what it says. If it's less than 1920x1080 then that is probably why it isn't playing.
Try those 2 things first before cranking out $$$$ for a new PC.
post #5 of 7
Splash Lite and Nvidia-based graphics card with CUDA should help for playback. Editing... this depends on NLE, but generally the faster CPU the better. I'd say, minimum 4-core with at least 2.2 GHz, this is what I have I've heard that i7 and even i5 are great, I have an older Phenom machine, but I am still able to edit in Vegas.
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Originally Posted by Ungermann View Post

Splash Lite and Nvidia-based graphics card with CUDA should help for playback. Editing... this depends on NLE, but generally the faster CPU the better. I'd say, minimum 4-core with at least 2.2 GHz, this is what I have I've heard that i7 and even i5 are great, I have an older Phenom machine, but I am still able to edit in Vegas.


He should be able to playback those videos if his screen resolution supports 1920x1080. Editing would be very time consuming with a dual core processor.
post #7 of 7
From what I have read, I do not believe nVidia cards are the way to go. I have a top of the line Dell quad-core computer with a nVidia Quadro FX 1800 card and I have never been able to view native TM700 files, regardless of the software used.

As for editing, I use Edius Neo 2.5.

Minimum System Requirements
CPU
Any Intel Core 2 or Core iX CPU. Intel or AMD single core CPU with a 3 GHz processor speed or faster (multiple CPUs and/or multi-core CPUs are recommended). SSE2 and SSE3 instruction set supported.

I would buy a Pioneer blu-ray burner and not mess with converting HD to SD.

Alan
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