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Best Processor for XG-135LC CRT plus Plasma

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Another Faroudja NRS power supply failure has finally convinced me to begin a chain of upgrades to my dual display HT setup. I run the XG at night and use the plasma during the day. I decided to upgrade to the Moome XG-HD 1.3 HDMI input card on the projector to eliminate the current NEC ISS switcher (with Moome card) and make the HT easier to use for the rest of my family. Here is my planned setup:

AV sources include legacy analog such as LD and Hi-8 plus HDMI/DVI sources such as HD cable, BDP, and PC
All AV sources to feed into a Krell S-1200 AV preamp with a single HDMI output
All HDMI sources are passed thru the Krell and all analog sources are transcoded to HDMI by the Krell (but not scaled)
Will need a 50-60 ft HDMI cable to reach projector and Moome input card (recommendations welcome)
Guess I will be abandoning my high quality 50 ft RGB cable (anybody need one?)

So I need some recommendations on a new processor. With my proposed setup I really only need one input into the processor, which would receive 480i, 1080i, 720p, 1080p (60hz and 24hz) and possibly a PC rate. I need dual outputs that would optimize all settings for the active display and for the current source resolution. I want the switching between displays to be as seamless as possible to make this very easy to use, preferrably the processor would just "see" which display was turned on (they are never on at the same time) and switch to that output and its setup automatically. I want the SD processing to be a least as good as what my NRS was providing, which I thought was plenty good.

I know the purists might see running the video sources through the Krell as a compromise, but the alternative of video into the processor and audio into the preamp would be much more difficult for my family to use. Using the processor to switch both audio and video could likewise compromise the audio path. The Krell is high end, and supposedly the transcoding and video switching are very good.

I don't have any total system controller and really don't want to get into all that, as you can see by my planned setup. The proposed layout is based on getting great AV performance, but perhaps not the ultimate, because I want the system to be easy to use for others. I hope that you could just turn on the display you want to view and all swithing for audio and video happens with the Krell remote. If the processor output then follows the active display automatically, it would be perfect.

XG has low hours and I love the PQ, so hope it can last another 5 years. All input would be highly appreciated.

Dan in Oklahoma
post #2 of 7
I would recommend An HDMI splitter should work too.

Just make sure to get an active (not passive) splitter.
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Hello Dan in Oklahoma. I have operated a nex 1352 with the moome card using both the dvdo vp50 pro and the lumagen xs+. Both put out a very nice picture. First, you might want to pick the resolution you want to run. I have both set up for the 817 by 1920 at 72 and they seem comparable to me but you can us the plain xs if you dont want the72 refresh rate at 1920p. I believe the XS only has 2 hdmi outputs and the VP only has one, but I havent checked for a while.

I think that Dave Murrell (sp?) had both and is certainly a videophile so you may want to check with him as to his perspective.

Both are very nice though lumagen still fully supports the xs.
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The Lumagen has gamma adjustment and I believe 3D upgradability.
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I use a DVDO VP30 with an SDI card to feed my NEC 10pg thru a HDFury (HDMI to RGBHV converter.) My sources are PS3 via HDMI, DTV HD DVR via HDMI, Oppo DV-130 for hirez multichannel music via HDMI, HD-A35 via HDMI, and a Panny RP-82 via SDI (and SPDIF for audio). I use an Onkyo PR-SC886 controller/preamp to handle all of the HDMI switching, then through the VP30 for scaling and gamma correction (you'll need gamma correction for a CRT- well you'll certaily want it after you see what it can do for PQ) then through the HDFury to the PJ.

The reasons I eventually migrated to this path were simple. I wanted the quality of the HDMI outputs from my source devices and I wanted to strip the HDDVD and BD hidef audio codecs from the audio path. Prior to going HDMI, I used the component HD outputs from all my sources and SPDIF for audio. The VP30 will transcode from component to RGBHV, which is why I originally bought it.

I've seen VP30's sell in the $400 range recently, which is a great deal for a very powerful scaler. To get the gamma capability you will need the latest firmware, which is available from DVDO's website for free. Upgrade is easy, although you will need a serial port - DB-9 I think. The instructions are online and even I could follow them.

BTW, I run my 10PG at 1080P and could not be happier. I upgraded the lenses to GT17's and continue to be amazed at the PQ. I had a 9PGxTRA for years and liked the edge focus capability better than the 10PG, but you cannot beat a 9" LQ CRT for blacks and depth. I'll keep it until it dies and cannot be brought back to life.
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The XS has dual outputs. It has sub memories for all the resolutions you mention plus the catch all (other). You can therefor optimise all your sources and have the scaler switch seamlessly to those optimised settings as it receives the appropriate resolution (which is what you wanted). The thing is can't do though is automatically load up the correct profile depending on which display is on. You would need to do that yourself. This is not particularily hard though...you just use MEM A for the NEC and MEM B for the plasma....and set the scaler up accordingly.
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With Lumagen HDQ, you won't need HDFury as it has RGB outs, (plus DVI out). You can still use your current RGB cable for the CRT. Still, you will need to use memories to change the output settings for plasma/CRT
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