Originally Posted by mphfrom77
So, wow, a lot of talk about the SubM and Cap, as I am sure it would be hard not to. But at $2300 and $3200 for those tested subs shipped...
Maybe you guys could talk some more about your impressions of the Empire?
There is a reason there is a lot of talk about those two. It's because they were in a different class as compared to the others when compared side by side. From your thread you'd be willing to spend 1,500 to 2,500. You have 6,000 cubic foot to fill. I'd buy a pair of subs for that space, because your room is a bit weird. You can put one sub on each side of the L & R mains. Ported would allow you to "feel" the bass a bit more - potentially because your seating position looks to be close to the front of the room. In that case I'd got with a pair of HSU VTF-15H's for a couple reasons.
1) You have no idea what sound you like best according to your thread, and you don't want to really do a DIY build. The HSU VTF-15 lets you choose your sound - ported, sealed - 16hz or 22hz tune etc. This helps you make sure you aren't stuck with something you don't like that much. It's a beautiful and capable sub with awesome vendor support.
2) They are ported forward, meaning you can feel the air movement a bit from your seating position - this is quite fun and really makes the movie experience. It might be important to have this tactile advantage in your super long odd shaped room.
If you purchase one high end sub you likely won't be able to put it in the middle of your smaller nook for the home theatre stuff, meaning you may not get good/even response at each seat in your seating area. Thus two subs would be better to ensure you cover the seating position IMO. I'm glad you discarded the purchase of two test F12 subs. That's a waste of your time and money in a room that big. As you saw in this review not everyone thinks the same sound is the best. I didn't really know which sound I liked the best either on subs, but from our KC meet I learned I liked ported deep sounding subs. That allows for the HSU, SVS, and Captivator in my opinon. I personally would buy any of those three subs before the epik. The next guy who responds might recommend the epik because he likes that sound better. IE my friend echaot said to me that in his opinion the epik clearly won our meet because for $800 it offered the nearly the cleanest sound and he didn't miss the deep sound, and didn't agree that the other subs sounded "deeper". Note: He also voted the Yamaha to have a 5 on deep notes in the music section when everyone else voted it much lower (he was sitting in the Audessey calibrated seat too) So it probably depends on how low you hear low frequency tones as well.
Because I didn't feel the Epik delivered on the deep notes in my room, I voted it at fifth place. It sounded GREAT up top however. For me I know I don't hear below 17hz --- so anything that happens below that, but I do like to hear as low as possible. For that the ported subs delievered it more readily to my ears.
Perhaps counsil will speak up. I understand he has five, yes five Epik empires. He also has four SVS PC-13 Ultras.