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post #241 of 1203
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Originally Posted by dvrmstrng View Post

What happens with the 3D starter kit that i received free on the purchase of the 1st TV?

Good question. I would like to know that as well.
post #242 of 1203
I just went to bb at checked the d7000 and d8000 on display and saw no peeling. The bb worker said no returns due to peeling.
post #243 of 1203
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Originally Posted by NJPapi1977 View Post

I just went to bb at checked the d7000 and d8000 on display and saw no peeling. The bb worker said no returns due to peeling.

Well, I'd certainly trust the word of a BB worker!!
post #244 of 1203
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Originally Posted by aydu View Post

Well, I'd certainly trust the word of a BB worker!!

I don't but I saw 3 sets of the d line and none were peeling.
post #245 of 1203
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Originally Posted by NJPapi1977 View Post

I don't but I saw 3 sets of the d line and none were peeling.

Its just chance. You just have to decide if your willing to roll the dice. I've had 3 sets now, all 3 had some form of peel in one or both of the upper corners. One even came perfect and has started to get it.

I am sure there are sets that will make it through their life without peeling.
post #246 of 1203
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Originally Posted by Carl Lee View Post

It seems you have a hard on for bashing Samsung. From all the reviews Ive read, Samsung seems like a better choice. I also have ZERO buzz from mine. The only thing Ive seen people complain about is the peeling corner and its just a film. Not like the panel is falling out. I also have no cracks also. I have a 5 year extended warranty so I have no worries. They will replace the panel even after 1 messed up pixel. What is the predetermined time for the glass cracking and Ill see if it happens to mine.

Whats wrong with your Sammy for you to be in here bashing?

Plus, I got a killer deal on this set.

I'm only reporting on other's experiences with my own, if that is bashing then I am guilty! I love my Samsung LN52B750 Series LCD, purchased the the extended warranty. I have nothing against Samsung, they make the number #1 LED LCD panel on the market! I'm one of the most neutral people here, I see it as a let down by a company I have come to expect the best! For the record the last two years of owning my Samsung LCD I have never had any sort of issue or even a hiccup (not even screen flicker or anomaly) of any kind, it has performed "flawlessly"!

Techlord
post #247 of 1203
Can anybody confirm if june built models have peeling too?
post #248 of 1203
So this has never happened on a d6500 yet? Why don't you people save some money and get a d6500 or even better yet save alot more money and get a d550 that has no AR coating at all and is just pure gloss. Then get some curtains to block light. The 5,6,7,8 series all have the same panel so PQ will be the same. People have even unlocked the full 10 pt calibration on the d550. Return the panel for a refund and get a d550 and use the extra money for curtains and speakers.
post #249 of 1203
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Originally Posted by Techlord View Post

I'm only reporting on other's experiences with my own, if that is bashing then I am guilty! I love my Samsung LN52B750 Series LCD, purchased the the extended warranty. I have nothing against Samsung, they make the number #1 LED LCD panel on the market! I'm one of the most neutral people here, I see it as a let down by a company I have come to expect the best! For the record the last two years of owning my Samsung LCD I have never had any sort of issue or even a hiccup (not even screen flicker or anomaly) of any kind, it has performed "flawlessly"!

Techlord

There are plenty of people who have "flawless" plasmas but you don't seem to understand or at least admit that. Do you even own a plasma? Have you ever owned a plasma?

By the way, I own two and don't have any problems. The first, a Samsung, has been a great TV for four years now and convinced me to first look at Samsungs again when I wanted another.
post #250 of 1203
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Originally Posted by Hudson1 View Post

There are plenty of people who have "flawless" plasmas but you don't seem to understand or at least admit that. Do you even own a plasma? Have you ever owned a plasma?

By the way, I own two and don't have any problems. The first, a Samsung, has been a great TV for four years now and convinced me to first look at Samsungs again when I wanted another.

Huh?

Why would I need to admit that there are in fact people out there that own plasmas that perform flawlessly? Your first sentence doesn't really make any sense, I never said that there were or were not people out there that own plasmas that perform flawlessly... Yes I own a plasma, whats it to you? Please post while sober, it makes understanding what you are trying to say easier!

Now go bug someone else please, Techlord.
post #251 of 1203
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Originally Posted by Techlord View Post

Huh?

Why would I need to admit that there are in fact people out there that own plasmas that perform flawlessly? Your first sentence doesn't really make any sense, I never said that there were or were not people out there that own plasmas that perform flawlessly... Yes I own a plasma, whats it to you? Please post while sober, it makes understanding what you are trying to say easier!

Now go bug someone else please, Techlord.

Why would you need to admit that??? Maybe because many people have posted that that's their personal experience which contradicts a lot of what you're implying in your posts.

Lastly, I don't need to bug anyone else... you've already done that.
post #252 of 1203
These people trading in tv's 3 or 4 times switch it out for a d6500 maybe since that is a plastic bezel instead of a metal one the peeling doesn't happen cause plastic doesn't conduct heat like metal does. That's why im guessing no one with a d6500 has reported this problem. The d6500 still has the AR filter just doesnt have the real black filter that blocks light from above. But you'll get a few hundred dollars back refunded so you can get a ps3 or something else cool
post #253 of 1203
I received a pn59d7000 delivered Monday June 6th from MODIA, ordered through amazon's store. We unpacked it, checked it out and made sure it was working before I accepted delivery. I thought I was in the clear and I was wrong. Within a couple of hours the filter was peeling and bubbling up at 4-5 places all along the top of the panel. Amazon directed me to contact MODIA, they are honoring a refund but I have to pay return shipping. The sales rep at MODIA called Samsung and they both claimed that they haven't heard of any of these peeling problems before (BS).

edit: They will cover the shipping costs after speaking with them more and making them more aware of the problem.
post #254 of 1203
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Originally Posted by RedOctober205 View Post

Common sense. A mass issue would be noteworthy and newsworthy. Over Q1 of 2011, 41.3% of all plasmas sold in the US were Samsung. They sell...a lot. Defective units happen with every brand. Some folks on various forums reporting an issue does not lead to the assumption that large scale problems exist. Keep it in perspective while considering how many units are actually sold without defects..

We heard the same excuses on the SXRD when we posted about our bad sets...but it turned out that most of them were bad. ( I should have heeded all the posts about SXRD issues and saved myself a ton of aggravation). Time will tell on the peeling issue..I would sure sit tight and not buy until it has clearly been resolved. It appears Samsung has dropped the ball, and getting these things fixed after your return period is over will not be fun.
post #255 of 1203
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Originally Posted by stewlounse View Post

I received a pn59d7000 delivered Monday June 6th from MODIA, ordered through amazon's store. We unpacked it, checked it out and made sure it was working before I accepted delivery. I thought I was in the clear and I was wrong. Within a couple of hours the filter was peeling and bubbling up at 4-5 places all along the top of the panel. Amazon directed me to contact MODIA, they are honoring a refund but I have to pay return shipping. The sales rep at MODIA called Samsung and they both claimed that they haven't heard of any of these peeling problems before (BS).


This is the reason im switching it out for another companies plasma. After 3 units, one of which came perfect, but then started peeling later, i'm fed up. If i had to pay return shipping I would switched after only the first.
post #256 of 1203
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Originally Posted by stewlounse View Post

Amazon directed me to contact MODIA, they are honoring a refund but I have to pay return shipping. The sales rep at MODIA called Samsung and they both claimed that they haven't heard of any of these peeling problems before (BS).

BS is right.

.....and why should you pay shipping? Let us know how much that cost you.
post #257 of 1203
i already told u guys how to fix the problem. GET A D6500 or a d550 + curtains to control light. it's the heat transfer of the metal bezel's that's making it peel. the d6500 is plastic. Have you seen 1 person on any forum say their d6500 is peeling? no. Maybe if you people would listen to me you'd have a working tv. But keep ignoring me and keep exchanging for d7000 and d8000 tv's that will peel the solution has been offered i don't feel bad for anyone that reads my post and knows a d6500 or d550 will solve their problem but they choose to ignore and keep gettin peeling tv's you deserve it if you dont listen to what im saying.
post #258 of 1203
I too have a PN64D8000 that came in perfect and after about 1 week of using it top right corner is now peeling, seems like a filter and heat issue and Samsung needs to step up here cause it seems like more then enough people's sets are affected and I can just imagine those sets that also have it but people not being aware of it since you cannot really notice until you are up close to your tv and look for it, I hope Samsung will have fix for this
post #259 of 1203
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Originally Posted by laststop311 View Post

i already told u guys how to fix the problem. GET A D6500 or a d550 + curtains to control light. it's the heat transfer of the metal bezel's that's making it peel. the d6500 is plastic. Have you seen 1 person on any forum say their d6500 is peeling? no. Maybe if you people would listen to me you'd have a working tv. But keep ignoring me and keep exchanging for d7000 and d8000 tv's that will peel the solution has been offered i don't feel bad for anyone that reads my post and knows a d6500 or d550 will solve their problem but they choose to ignore and keep gettin peeling tv's you deserve it if you dont listen to what im saying.

The heat transfer may contribute, but that certainly doesn't explain the peeling present on some displays as soon as the box is opened (like one of my D7000s had).
post #260 of 1203
well notice not 1 person with a d6500 has said their tv is peeling.
post #261 of 1203
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Originally Posted by laststop311 View Post

well notice not 1 person with a d6500 has said their tv is peeling.


Why are you trying to shove the D6500 down our throat. If we want the 7000 or 8000 then we should get that and if the issue is widespread then Samsung should resolve it.

I do not like the look of the 6500...That is just my opinon

Spending good money should not give us plastic tv's
post #262 of 1203
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Originally Posted by laststop311 View Post

So this has never happened on a d6500 yet? Why don't you people save some money and get a d6500 or even better yet save alot more money and get a d550 that has no AR coating at all and is just pure gloss. Then get some curtains to block light. The 5,6,7,8 series all have the same panel so PQ will be the same. People have even unlocked the full 10 pt calibration on the d550. Return the panel for a refund and get a d550 and use the extra money for curtains and speakers.

the panels being the same on all of the 550 - 8000 models just with different "stock" software, bezels, and screen treatments, is this confirmed? i purchased the D6500 on amazon with the kindle 20% off deal (lucky, i know) but i was debating on getting the D7000 because of the RBF but ultimately chose not to because I didn't want to deal with the hassle of returning exchanging and what-not. As far as heat conduction, metal is a lot better at conducting (passing) heat so it will transfer to the glass much quicker than with the plastic. but why is the peeling only/mostly occurring at the top? maybe that has to do with the application of the film, i don't know.
post #263 of 1203
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Originally Posted by AlanBuck View Post


We heard the same excuses on the SXRD when we posted about our bad sets...but it turned out that most of them were bad. ( I should have heeded all the posts about SXRD issues and saved myself a ton of aggravation). Time will tell on the peeling issue..I would sure sit tight and not buy until it has clearly been resolved. It appears Samsung has dropped the ball, and getting these things fixed after your return period is over will not be fun.

That very well may happen. It is far too early to tell
post #264 of 1203
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Originally Posted by laststop311 View Post

well notice not 1 person with a d6500 has said their tv is peeling.

You do realize that it is the Real Black Filter peeling, right? You also realize that your precious D6500 does not have the Real Black Filter, don't you? You should probably spend a little more time on your homework.
post #265 of 1203
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Originally Posted by AlanBuck View Post

It appears Samsung has dropped the ball, and getting these things fixed after your return period is over will not be fun.

I ordered mine from Cleveland Plasma about three weeks ago. Both my top corners are peeling. I ended up going the Samsung ticket route because there doesn't seem to be any "return period" with CP. The Samsung tech visited this morning. First he tried to tell me "it's just glass, there's no film to peel" but when I argued he put me down on his report as "needs new panel". It wasn't too much hassle but he also said he couldn't guarantee the replacement wouldn't have the same problem. Apparently It takes about a week for it to get here so I guess I'll know soon enough.

I figure if the new one peels too I'll wait until my year is almost up before complaining again. As long as there's no "return period" alternative there's no reason not to give Samsung more time to deal with the issue.
Roy
post #266 of 1203
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

BS is right.

.....and why should you pay shipping? Let us know how much that cost you.

That's exactly why I got back on the phone with them and shared more information from the all powerful internet. I've edited my post because now they will cover the return shipping.
post #267 of 1203
if its just the real black filter peeling and not the main AR filter might as well just peel it all the way off and enjoy the tv the standard AR filter on the d6500 does a great job and the real black filter hardly makes much more a difference its a very tiny gain in preserving black level.

I have never seen any proof anywhere that its the real black filter peeling off and not the main AR coating thats on all 6,7,8 series tv's
post #268 of 1203
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Originally Posted by laststop311 View Post

if its just the real black filter peeling and not the main AR filter might as well just peel it all the way off and enjoy the tv the standard AR filter on the d6500 does a great job and the real black filter hardly makes much more a difference its a very tiny gain in preserving black level.

I have never seen any proof anywhere that its the real black filter peeling off and not the main AR coating thats on all 6,7,8 series tv's

Lets try your suggestion I start the peeling process whoops now it's coming off in pieces.Whoops nows theres pieces not coming off in middle of screen.I know I'll call Samsung their response you did what sorry thats not covered.Why would anyone make that kind of suggestion.
post #269 of 1203
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Originally Posted by laststop311 View Post

if its just the real black filter peeling and not the main AR filter might as well just peel it all the way off and enjoy the tv the standard AR filter on the d6500 does a great job and the real black filter hardly makes much more a difference its a very tiny gain in preserving black level.

I have never seen any proof anywhere that its the real black filter peeling off and not the main AR coating thats on all 6,7,8 series tv's

You realize that the real black filter is one of the key upgrades of the 7000 and 8000 series sets over lower end models?

I'm not sure why anyone would want to turn their 7000 or 8000 series set into a 6500... they could have just gotten a 6500 and saved their money!
post #270 of 1203
This thread has me spooked about my 64d7000, I like the TV alot but what I am worried about is what about in 2 or 3 years when it is out of warranty etc and it starts peeling, let me know if I am being foolish but I think I am going to trade it for a GT panny
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