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Pioneer Blu-ray players 2011 - BDP-140/BDP-440/BDP-LX55/BDP-53FD

post #1 of 1708
5/17/11 at 5:34am
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Ok, so last year was a bit of a dud with the Sharp merger and then the rushed-to-market 3D players. So let's see what this year brings.

Bad product shots are all I've seen so far, but the new look is very nice, and consistent across the range. They also match the new VSX and SC receivers.

BDP-140


BDP-440


BDP-LX55


BDP-140:
3D Playback
SACD Support
Network Functions (DLNA, YouTube etc...)
PC File Playback (DivX plus HD etc)
iControl AV2 Control App
Quick Response
Wi-Fi Connection (Via Optional Adaptor)
Sound Retriever Link
Stream Smoother Link

BDP-440 adds
PQLS Bitstream Multi-Channel
Aluminium Front Panel
IP Control

BDP-LX55 adds
QDEO Video Processor
Twin HDMI Outputs
RS232 Connection
High Grade Audio Parts
Armoured Chassis

This is all preliminary information only.

Judging by the specs, I think this year seems a lot more interesting. They tick all the requirement boxes for 3D, DLNA, networking.

SACD support not only in the high-end, but all the way down to the entry level player is a nice touch. That alone goes a fair way in separating the brand from the Panasonic/Samsung/LG brands towards an enthusiast market without alienating the mass market.

The LX / Elite model actually stands out this year. Twin HDMI is a proper high-end feature. Upgraded video processing is a proper high-end feature.

The weak model appears to be the mid-range BDP-440. Not much that distinguishes it from the entry-level BDP-140. If I'd been in charge I would probably have canned the wifi for the 140 just to set it apart. Or included the wifi dongle with the 440.

Estimated recommended retail prices
BDP-140 - $199
BDP-440 - $299
BDP-LX55 - $399-$499 (There's probably two Elite versions but only one LX)
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post #2 of 1708
5/17/11 at 3:28pm
Hopefully these are night and day from last years Sharpioneers! Maybe they finally saw the light and improved their BD players like in the past.
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post #3 of 1708
5/17/11 at 3:36pm
I can't tell, are they still using that tacky 'piano black' aka. 'finger print magnet black' gloss finish? In those images it almost looks like a black brushed aluminium, which would be really nice.
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post #4 of 1708
5/17/11 at 3:37pm
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I can't tell, are they still using that tacky 'piano black' aka. 'finger print magnet black' gloss finish? In those images it almost looks like a black brushed aluminium, which would be really nice.

It almost appears to look like the Oppo fronts.
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post #5 of 1708
5/17/11 at 4:08pm
They're still Sharp's with different front panel facades... correct?

Unless these new models coming out of the same Chinese plant (maybe we'll start seeing consumer electronics designed and made back in the good ol' USA as soon as we accept 10 cents an hour jobs with no benefits and poor working conditions ) as the Oppo's, that is...

I guess we'll know soon enough.

Lexicon (Harmon International) did that with their Blu-ray players... used the same form factor as the Oppo and added an outragous upcharge for the Lexicon name.
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post #6 of 1708
5/17/11 at 6:15pm
If these are true Pioneers, I just might sell my current collection of Pioneer players and get two of these 2011 players--one for my living room and one for my bedroom. I hope they built these players based on the platform of the DV-48AV, DV-58AV, and DV-400V. They were fine SD players. Adding Blu-ray to them would be the best Pioneer has ever done!
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post #7 of 1708
5/17/11 at 6:39pm
Wow. Now that looks like a Pioneer Elite Blu-ray player.

Hopefully since they are including the Qdeo chip & play SACD this will be a top of the line Blu-ray player for PQ & AQ.

I'm anxious to read the manual & the reviews on the Elite player & see if Pioneer is back in the game.

Hopefully these have a quick turn on time & load time.

Does these players include Netflix?

Also please post when someone knows whether you can hook up a USB drive to these & what types of files they will play.
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post #8 of 1708
5/17/11 at 7:19pm
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Does these players include Netflix?

Also please post when someone knows whether you can hook up a USB drive to these & what types of files they will play.

Last year's models had Netflix, so that's a pretty safe bet, and they could also play MKV.

The feature list had "PC File Playback (DivX plus HD etc)" in there, and DivX plus HD is H.264.
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post #9 of 1708
5/20/11 at 5:41pm
Unless these new players turn out to be glorified Sharps, this will be my favorite thread here at AVS. So keep those posts coming if you can! I'll be following this one!
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post #10 of 1708
5/21/11 at 6:45am
Nice to see SACD support. Any idea if DVD Audio will also be supported?
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post #11 of 1708
5/21/11 at 12:43pm
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Nice to see SACD support. Any idea if DVD Audio will also be supported?

Tend to doubt it if not directly mentioned.

Anyone see a manual yet?
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post #12 of 1708
5/21/11 at 6:14pm
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Tend to doubt it if not directly mentioned.

Anyone see a manual yet?
It's not listed on Pioneer's American website Press Room yet.

Where did the person that started the thread get the info from?

I'd like to know more about the Elite player also.
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post #13 of 1708
5/24/11 at 1:48am
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Originally Posted by marine92104 View Post

Where did the person that started the thread get the info from?

From a guy who works at Pioneer. And when I googled the model numbers I got, those pictures turned up. I'd wager they're legit since they match the new receivers. I've only seen the manuals for the 2011 VSX receivers, nothing about the blu-rays or the SC receivers.

So all I know about the 2011 blu-ray players is in that first post. Oh, except they're wider now to match the new receivers, I think it's 430mm instead of the old Pioneer 420mm standard. Also there's going to be 5-10 XV series blu-ray HTIBs as well.

And there's a god-awful looking BDP-4110 for the asian market (comes in GOLD!) that hopefully no one will ever hear about.
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post #14 of 1708
5/24/11 at 6:21am
Any news on when they're coming out?
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post #15 of 1708
5/26/11 at 1:04am
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Any news on when they're coming out?

Nope, sorry. I'm not in the US market anyway so even if I had been told anything more specific than "later this year" it probably wouldn't be worth mentioning.
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post #16 of 1708
5/26/11 at 4:53am
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Nope, sorry. I'm not in the US market anyway so even if I had been told anything more specific than "later this year" it probably wouldn't be worth mentioning.

some info from UK

BDP-140
http://www.martinshifi.co.uk/product...ioneer-bdp140/

BDP-440
http://www.hifix.co.uk/3d-blu-ray-an...er/bdp440.html

BDP-LX55
http://www.martinshifi.co.uk/product...oneer-bdplx55/
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post #17 of 1708
5/26/11 at 4:57am
on whathifi.com UK
http://www.whathifi.com/forum/home-c...er-2011?page2=
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post #18 of 1708
5/26/11 at 5:11am
http://www.weymouthhifi.co.uk/websit...er_bdplx55.htm
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post #19 of 1708
5/27/11 at 7:16pm
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Originally Posted by realzven View Post

on whathifi.com UK
http://www.whathifi.com/forum/home-c...er-2011?page2=

So that's a UK release in September. US probably a bit earlier.
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post #20 of 1708
5/29/11 at 6:22pm
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So that's a UK release in September. US probably a bit earlier.

Three months? A little longer than I was hoping for. If these players turn out to be true Pioneers, I just might sell my BDP-23FD, BDP-320, DV-49AV, and DV-58AV and get two of these new players--one for my living room and one for my bedroom, since they can play BD, DVD, and SACD.
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post #21 of 1708
6/3/11 at 2:30pm
any one have any rear panel pics of these?
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post #22 of 1708
6/5/11 at 3:28pm
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any one have any rear panel pics of these?

I am curious as well what the rear panels look like. I also would to see what the Elite versions look like, front and rear.
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post #23 of 1708
6/6/11 at 5:40pm
Sounds interesting and I want some dimensions on these players. They look bigger than last years models. Might be a nice upgrade over my Elite BDP-05FD. I really like the SACD capability. I am hoping for dvd audio as well. I need an SACD dvd audio player.
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post #24 of 1708
6/6/11 at 6:41pm
Would like to see WMA Lossless support and a Zune Pass app.
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post #25 of 1708
6/7/11 at 5:25am
I heard somewhere that Pioneer is now rebadging Sharp TVs. In fact, it might have been here at AVS somewhere. I forget where I heard it exactly. But anyway, maybe this means that Pioneer will go back to their glory days making their own players. Although if Pioneer ever made their own 32" 1080p Kuro, I'd still take it!
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post #26 of 1708
6/7/11 at 1:06pm
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I heard somewhere that Pioneer is now rebadging Sharp TVs. In fact, it might have been here at AVS somewhere. I forget where I heard it exactly. But anyway, maybe this means that Pioneer will go back to their glory days making their own players. Although if Pioneer ever made their own 32" 1080p Kuro, I'd still take it!

As far as I know that deal never happened. There was supposed to be a joint venture with Sharp to continue to build their Kuro TV's but it was nixed before it even started. They then started a joint venture with Sharp for their DVD players and Blu-ray players.
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post #27 of 1708
6/7/11 at 1:40pm
I almost bought a Pioneer BDP31fd but after reading the god awful reviews I backed off.
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post #28 of 1708
6/7/11 at 3:39pm
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-20029882-17.html

I thought Sharp already made arrangements to use the name.
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post #29 of 1708
6/8/11 at 8:19am
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As far as I know that deal never happened. There was supposed to be a joint venture with Sharp to continue to build their Kuro TV's but it was nixed before it even started. They then started a joint venture with Sharp for their DVD players and Blu-ray players.

Since 2010 starting with the BDP-330, Sharp would first come out with a player and then Pioneer would add their signature features such as PQLS to it. Find out what Blu-ray players Sharp is currently making, as well as coming out with and see if they resemble the ones in this thread. If so, check out the manuals. If they are more Pioneer-based, then there is hope. If they are still Sharp style, then you know that they won't be true Pioneers. If the current or upcoming Sharp players do not resemble the ones in this thread, then there is still hope for these new players.
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post #30 of 1708
6/10/11 at 8:13am
FYI, According to an employee PIONEER Europe : the 2011 blu ray player would be the TRUE PIONEER , he insist that everything was new into the BDP 140 /440 and LX55 blu-ray
It's better wait and see if this news is confirmed
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